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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 04:48 PM Sep 2018

Jerry Falwell, Jr. exploring whether Liberty should drop Nike after Colin Kaepernick ads

Source: USA Today


Dan Wolken, USA TODAY Published 1:59 p.m. ET Sept. 7, 2018 | Updated 2:01 p.m. ET Sept. 7, 2018

Jerry Falwell, Jr., the president of Liberty University and a close ally of President Trump, told USA TODAY Sports in a phone conversation Friday that Nike’s ad campaign centered around Colin Kaepernick might cause the school to re-consider its relationship with the apparel company, which signed a contract last year to outfit Liberty’s athletic teams through 2024.

“We’re exploring the situation,” Falwell said. “If Nike really does believe that law enforcement in this country is unfair and biased, I think we will look around. If we have a contract, we’ll honor it, but we strongly support law enforcement and strongly support our military and veterans who died to protect our freedoms and if the company really believes what Colin Kaepernick believes, it’s going to be hard for us to keep doing business with them.

“But if it’s just a publicity stunt to bring attention to Nike or whatever, that’s different. We understand that. We understand how marketing works. But they’re going to have to convince us that they’re not proactively attacking law enforcement officers and our military. If that’s the reason behind using this ad, we’re going to have a hard time staying.”

Kaepernick and NFL players who have followed his lead in taking a knee during the national anthem have said they are doing so to call attention to social injustice issues, and not as a sign of disrespect for the military or law enforcement.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2018/09/07/liberty-university-considers-dropping-nike-after-colin-kaepernick-ad/1224041002/

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Jerry Falwell, Jr. exploring whether Liberty should drop Nike after Colin Kaepernick ads (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
Liberty U is like, Division I-FBS in college football htuttle Sep 2018 #1
As long as you honor the contract leftynyc Sep 2018 #2
Nobody cares, they don't buy enough product to care. redstatebluegirl Sep 2018 #3
Ohhh, the irony in that college's name. kysrsoze Sep 2018 #4
Nike should cancel the contract PJMcK Sep 2018 #5
Given their PR problems from using sweatshops I'm surprised Nike would even sell their products pecosbob Sep 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author targetpractice Sep 2018 #8
BS! Nike has been working for better conditions since the 90's. bitterross Sep 2018 #26
I understand that pecosbob Sep 2018 #36
Umm, it business. You can't boycott the world. bitterross Sep 2018 #37
Nike has been slow to improve working conditions and it almost always is a result of being forced by rpannier Sep 2018 #42
Of course you have a contract underpants Sep 2018 #7
Jeez,.. I don't remember Falwell Jr. having a Jesus... magicarpet Sep 2018 #9
New Balance is then. hahah n/t targetpractice Sep 2018 #10
Buying school shoes for my daughter, it's either Nike or New Balance. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #11
If your daughter's feet are narrower or wider than normal, New Balance jmowreader Sep 2018 #38
Yep. She's normal. I've got the 4E feet, so I go with NBs. She just got Nike Cross Trainers at DSW. TheBlackAdder Sep 2018 #44
Falwell's a piece of shit Racerdog1 Sep 2018 #12
Think I will stick with The Walking Company.................... turbinetree Sep 2018 #13
Just do it! Cirque du So-What Sep 2018 #14
Wondering whether to drop Nike, Falwell? Just do it. JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2018 #15
keeping a dozen people from watching the ads, oh my, it will ruin them elmac Sep 2018 #16
So essentially what Falwell, Jr. tomg Sep 2018 #17
Go ahead faldwell... Maxheader Sep 2018 #18
Like Nike will care sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #19
Exacty. It's not like the Liberty football team makes Nike look good. SunSeeker Sep 2018 #32
Applaud to Nike marieo1 Sep 2018 #20
Nike doesn't give a fuck Jerry. SamKnause Sep 2018 #21
"and strongly support our military and veterans" - not quite! keithbvadu2 Sep 2018 #22
Fuck you, Jerry! Initech Sep 2018 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author mobeau69 Sep 2018 #24
My Question erpowers Sep 2018 #25
They sell to them, it's not like Nike was supporting them Marrah_Goodman Sep 2018 #41
Thought Nike Paid Them erpowers Sep 2018 #46
So if you deceive someone to make money it is okay with Falwell Jr. Why am I not surprised? Freethinker65 Sep 2018 #27
Fine. Go. BlueIdaho Sep 2018 #28
Nike sales are way up C_U_L8R Sep 2018 #29
Why don't people drop Falwell ? The so called "religious " right are just as evil as Satan's geretogo Sep 2018 #30
Puma and Adidas had also offered Kaepernick a contract, before Nike sealed the deal. SunSeeker Sep 2018 #31
Give me a second....ok, I'm ready now... Ferrets are Cool Sep 2018 #33
Talk about showboating and grandstanding Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2018 #34
that would be a feather in Nike's cap. olddad56 Sep 2018 #35
This is the strange part of Falwell's diatribe jmowreader Sep 2018 #39
How about just dropping the whole "university" down a bottomless pit? Marrah_Goodman Sep 2018 #40
WWJerryD econron Sep 2018 #43
Bass-Ackward Le Grand Pronounceur Sep 2018 #45

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
1. Liberty U is like, Division I-FBS in college football
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 04:51 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Who cares?

May as well be the USFL.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
2. As long as you honor the contract
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 04:51 PM
Sep 2018

I doubt very much NIKE gives a crap what you think, you trump humping imbecile.

PJMcK

(22,050 posts)
5. Nike should cancel the contract
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 04:59 PM
Sep 2018

They should tell Falwell that they won't do business with bigots and racists.

Nike's stock would climb, I bet, and they would sell more product.

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
6. Given their PR problems from using sweatshops I'm surprised Nike would even sell their products
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 04:59 PM
Sep 2018

to a fake 'university' that promotes racism and misogyny.

And to go further, any 'university' that teaches and promotes pseudo-science and outright lies should be stripped of their accreditation. Sorry, but if you push creationism and climate-change denial, you're snake-oil salesmen, not educators.

Response to pecosbob (Reply #6)

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
26. BS! Nike has been working for better conditions since the 90's.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:16 PM
Sep 2018

They don't have a sweatshop problem like the Trumps do.

https://sustainability.nike.com/

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
36. I understand that
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:07 PM
Sep 2018

Since that time they have worked hard to maintain a positive image...hence my puzzlement at their doing business with a reactionary right-wing organization.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
37. Umm, it business. You can't boycott the world.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:27 PM
Sep 2018

They sign with everyone. You cannot boycott the world.

If I tried to not do business with every group/store/person someone wanted me to boycott or not otherwise do business with I'd have to stay home and make everything from scratch.

rpannier

(24,339 posts)
42. Nike has been slow to improve working conditions and it almost always is a result of being forced by
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:08 AM
Sep 2018

outside sources -- like Universities

In August 2017, Nike was in negotiations with Georgetown University, Northeastern and Rutgers over working conditions. At that time, the University of Washington was watching the Georgetown-Nike meetings to decide what the University would do

Georgetown and others were letting the contracts expire, partially due to pressure from the student body to improve working conditions in Vietnam
The only thing it appears to have agreed upon (regarding worker's rights and safety in Vietnam) is that Georgetown University gear would not be produced using sweatshop labor

As to working for better conditions, let's be real, they only made changes in the past because they got caught. They used child labor to make soccer balls until 2006. They stopped that because it became a big scandal and FIFA went into damage control. Nike, Adidas, et al stopped having hand-stitched balls made in Pakistan. It was not for sustainability or for a better world or anything else like that

1. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/jun/25/female-cambodian-garment-workers-mass-fainting

2. https://qz.com/1042298/nike-is-facing-a-new-wave-of-anti-sweatshop-protests/

3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/08/30/georgetown-nike-reach-pact-on-worker-conditions/?utm_term=.19d734313b54

magicarpet

(14,175 posts)
9. Jeez,.. I don't remember Falwell Jr. having a Jesus...
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 05:03 PM
Sep 2018

... shit fit when trDump raked the Khan family over the hot coals and dragged them through the mud puddles.

Captain Khan died defending his troops and trDump trashed that Gold Star Family during the Dem Convention.

TheBlackAdder

(28,216 posts)
11. Buying school shoes for my daughter, it's either Nike or New Balance.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 05:04 PM
Sep 2018

.

Nike for supporting Kaepernik.

New Balance because they had one of the first company CEOs to challenge Trump's economic plans. The Daily Stormer set up a hit piece, claiming New Balance to be the shoes of White Supremacists, to hurt their sales. Unfortunately, many news outlets ran that story, which did hurt New Balance--the only major shoe manufacturer in-sourcing jobs to the US.

.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
38. If your daughter's feet are narrower or wider than normal, New Balance
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:03 AM
Sep 2018

New Balance was the first, and probably is still the only, athletic shoe company to make shoes in multiple widths.

 

Racerdog1

(808 posts)
12. Falwell's a piece of shit
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 05:14 PM
Sep 2018

So is this fucking Liberturd University. No one gives two shots what you do.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,367 posts)
15. Wondering whether to drop Nike, Falwell? Just do it.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 05:22 PM
Sep 2018

It's not as if anyone gives a rat's ass what your so-called school does.

Liberty U has sports teams? Anyone letter in varsity cross-burning?

Disclosure: JustABozoOnThisBus has had a few TGIF beers. Stella Artois. Greetings to all.

tomg

(2,574 posts)
17. So essentially what Falwell, Jr.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 05:47 PM
Sep 2018

is saying - " If you actually believe in what Colin Kaepernick believes and you are committed to social justice and his message, then we are not on board. If, on the other hand, this is simply a publicity stunt in order to make money, we are good to go. If your stance is a lie and a fraud, we get it. Profit over people - and if you can lie while doing it, all the better. Oh, and we will give you some cover on this - you know - the law enforcement and military and vets card. Just give us a sign."

Falwell's blatant and explicit admission of his utter hypocrisy is beyond belief. You know damn well, Nike will talk to them; Falwell will say they were convinced; and the low-level right-wing troops will be satisfied all around, and Liberty's teams will keep wearing Nike. As far as Nike is concerned, when they do something about their horrific labor practices, I'll start buying their stuff again ( it has been over 25 years since any Nike product has come into our house).

Maxheader

(4,374 posts)
18. Go ahead faldwell...
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 06:05 PM
Sep 2018

Let all the rightwinger colleges put on cheap stuff..shoes
jersys..etc...Let all the normal colleges keep on keeping on
with nike!!

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
20. Applaud to Nike
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 06:30 PM
Sep 2018

I am more than proud of Nike and Mr. Kaepernick. It's about time someone has the balls to take a stand against all the violence in our country. He is, in my opinion, a better Christian than the Falwells or DJT!!! Jerry Falwell, Jr and DJT both need to take a HIKE!!

keithbvadu2

(36,917 posts)
22. "and strongly support our military and veterans" - not quite!
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 06:50 PM
Sep 2018

"and strongly support our military and veterans" - not quite!

They support coward/traitor Donald who ridiculed and insulted all POWs with his 'captured' comments.

Perhaps Liberty U should seek guidance in Two Corinthians.

Response to Initech (Reply #23)

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
25. My Question
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:05 PM
Sep 2018

I am not trying to be mean, but my question is why does Nike have a deal with Liberty University? I just did not have any clue that Nike had a deal with Liberty University.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
41. They sell to them, it's not like Nike was supporting them
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:35 AM
Sep 2018

Liberty is basically saying they are considering buying from a different company. I think Nike can take that hit...LOL

Freethinker65

(10,055 posts)
27. So if you deceive someone to make money it is okay with Falwell Jr. Why am I not surprised?
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:22 PM
Sep 2018

How can some Christians be so stupid as to follow this charlatan?

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
30. Why don't people drop Falwell ? The so called "religious " right are just as evil as Satan's
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 09:51 PM
Sep 2018

disciple Donald Mussolini .

SunSeeker

(51,715 posts)
31. Puma and Adidas had also offered Kaepernick a contract, before Nike sealed the deal.
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 10:10 PM
Sep 2018

Good luck finding any major sports brand willing to diss Kaepernick.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
34. Talk about showboating and grandstanding
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 10:48 PM
Sep 2018

What in the blue fuck does any of this have to do with an institution of higher learning and education ? Since when do universities involve themselves to this degree in discourse that has nothing to do with their stated purpose ? This is a college, not the NFL.

Additionally, At no time did Nike say ANYTHING about law enforcement, the military or veterans. As a vet, I find this entire prostitution of purpose disgusting. This is out of control.

Falwell is nothing but a pathetic, groveling whore to trmp, desperate to amount to something. If anyone, anywhere had any questions about his dubious commitment to faith, this should put that to rest.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
39. This is the strange part of Falwell's diatribe
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:17 AM
Sep 2018

He strongly supports our military and veterans who died to protect our freedoms...

but if someone has the gall to use the freedoms they're protecting in a way Falwell doesn't like, he'll punish them.

econron

(152 posts)
43. WWJerryD
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 10:28 AM
Sep 2018

There's a big difference in What Would Jerry Do and What Would Jesus Do. I say Just Do IT! Heading out to buy some Nike today

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