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pstokely

(10,530 posts)
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:40 PM Sep 2018

Progressives impatient with McCaskill's 'hedging' on Kavanaugh nomination

Source: Kansas City Star

WASHINGTON
The same week that other Democrats relentlessly grilled Judge Brett Kavanaugh and progressive activists occupied Senate offices, Sen. Claire McCaskill complimented the federal judge’s intelligence.

But in the next sentence, she listed reasons she has doubts about whether he should become a Supreme Court justice.

Progressive Democrats are getting impatient with McCaskill, as the Missouri Democrat refuses to say how she plans on voting on President Donald Trump’s nominee or even comment on his testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee. She’s waiting until after Kavanaugh submits additional answers to the committee next week.

“There are certainly things in there that tell me that he’s a competent and qualified lawyer… Someone who is smart and understands how the law works, understands the distinctions between administrative law and understands the various branches of government and the checks and balances, so all of that is reassuring,” McCaskill told McClatchy.

Read more: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article218009020.html

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Progressives impatient with McCaskill's 'hedging' on Kavanaugh nomination (Original Post) pstokely Sep 2018 OP
I am okay with her approach rpannier Sep 2018 #1
I've been calling her office benld74 Sep 2018 #2
before you call next time orleans Sep 2018 #4
The Republican party is... SergeStorms Sep 2018 #9
It's hardly just "progressives" zentrum Sep 2018 #3
One thing I know for sure standingtall Sep 2018 #5
+1 Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #6
Yep. I doubt voting Yes will gain her any votes and might demoralize some Dems SharonClark Sep 2018 #7
I agree. A vote for Kavanaugh will be her last. notdarkyet Sep 2018 #14
She's in a heated race for Senate right now radical noodle Sep 2018 #8
Trying to appeal to Republican voters is a losing strategy for Democrats Yavin4 Sep 2018 #10
No, but center right independents might Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2018 #18
No, there's really no such thing as center right independents Yavin4 Sep 2018 #23
It's naive to think its just Republicans and Democrats Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2018 #24
After watching her during the Todd Akin fiasco the last time she was on the ballot BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #11
I worry most about Donnelly rpannier Sep 2018 #15
Hate to say this at this point but BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #16
There are so many ways to get to No on Kavanaugh DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #12
Did anyone Rebl2 Sep 2018 #17
Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2018 #19
McConnell could allow Collins and Murkowski to vote no DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #21
Keep flooding her offices with calls. sinkingfeeling Sep 2018 #13
If kavanaugh in allowed to serve duforsure Sep 2018 #20
I will be careful not to disparage a Dem here. pecosbob Sep 2018 #22

rpannier

(24,338 posts)
1. I am okay with her approach
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:51 PM
Sep 2018

I have had issues with her in the past, but I think waiting for the additional answers gives the impression that she is giving thought to her decision
If she decides no, she can at least say she gave him a full vetting before she decided

benld74

(9,909 posts)
2. I've been calling her office
Fri Sep 7, 2018, 11:58 PM
Sep 2018

3 times daily for 2 weeks now

Tell Claire to vote NO on Kavanaugh. He doesn’t have the credentials for SC. Heck, he doesn’t have the credentials for the job he has now.
I’ve voted for her supported her for years. NOW she needs to vote NO on this fool for me!!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
3. It's hardly just "progressives"
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:15 AM
Sep 2018

...who are impatient. It's the spectrum of Democrats horrified by the new normal that Kavanugh will make into settled law.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
5. One thing I know for sure
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:17 AM
Sep 2018

There is no way McCaskill can win without St. Louis turning out. So there is no way she can vote to confirm this guy. Picking up republican voters will not help her if she let's down her base.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
7. Yep. I doubt voting Yes will gain her any votes and might demoralize some Dems
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 01:41 AM
Sep 2018

who will not turn out for her.

radical noodle

(8,013 posts)
8. She's in a heated race for Senate right now
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 01:59 AM
Sep 2018

A race we really need to have her win. If we don't peel off any GOP votes for Kavanaugh, then it won't matter how she votes.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
10. Trying to appeal to Republican voters is a losing strategy for Democrats
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 03:08 AM
Sep 2018

Republicans are not going to vote for McCaskill because she voted for Kavanaugh. She's making a big mistake here.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
18. No, but center right independents might
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 10:52 AM
Sep 2018

Remember, it's not just Republicans v. Democrats; about 1/3 of the electorate doesn't claim to identify with either party.

Yavin4

(35,446 posts)
23. No, there's really no such thing as center right independents
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:44 PM
Sep 2018

That's wishful thinking. You have to turn out the base in order to win.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
24. It's naive to think its just Republicans and Democrats
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 03:45 PM
Sep 2018

There's a solid third of the electorate that doesn't identify with either party.

BumRushDaShow

(129,472 posts)
11. After watching her during the Todd Akin fiasco the last time she was on the ballot
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 07:11 AM
Sep 2018

for some reason I don't think she is going to break ranks with the party and vote for this guy.

The ones to worry about are Donnelly and Manchin.

rpannier

(24,338 posts)
15. I worry most about Donnelly
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:16 AM
Sep 2018

Manchin will do whatever he is going to do mostly because he believes in it. He's put distance between himself and his opponent. He is well-liked by the majority of people in West Virginia. As friends of mine from WVa have said, "If he were a Republican, he'd hold a 50 point lead right now, instead of a 10."
Donnelly is unpredictable and he doesn't have the numbers that Manchin has. He panders

As to McCaskill, I think waiting is probably a better thing politically. She can lay claim to having done due diligence when she votes no. She needs St Louis to come out strong. Voting for this guy thinking it will get her Republican votes is a fool's errand. I think she knows that

BumRushDaShow

(129,472 posts)
16. Hate to say this at this point but
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:40 AM
Sep 2018

what they do will be dependent on what the usual suspect GOPers (Collins, Murkowski) do and if those two go along, then Kavanaugh is in, and those moderate (D)s will have cover if they support the appointment too because their votes wouldn't have mattered anyway.

Of course some of exiting loudmouths like Flake or Corker or even someone as innocuous like Heller, who may lose his own seat this cycle, could vote "no" as a parting shot... But they have proven time and time and time again that they will support every draconian appointment, policy, and GOP-crafted bill that gets handed to them.

It's that old cliche about "Democrats falling in love and Republicans falling in line".

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
12. There are so many ways to get to No on Kavanaugh
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 07:23 AM
Sep 2018

Let's start with repeated lying to the Senate while testifying under oath. That is immediately disqualifying regardless of his positions on any other issue.

He may well be corrupt as evidenced by his ability to pay down between 60-200k of baseball ticket debt on his modest salaries.

He was involved in the very worst antics of the Bush WH including the decision to torture prisoners.

And those don't even include his far outside even the mainstream conservatism views.

Rebl2

(13,555 posts)
17. Did anyone
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 09:49 AM
Sep 2018

ever ask him about that debt and how he managed to pay it off, not that he would tell the truth. You mentioned repeatedly lying. How about the fact he pretty much didn’t answer the questions that Democratic Senators asked him. He danced all around the questions and never really answered many of them.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
19. Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 11:00 AM
Sep 2018

Even more so than Trump, Kavanaugh could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get confirmed. He will get every Republican vote no matter what is uncovered. This is the one nominee the Ricketts Family (huge Republican donors and devout Catholics) really want on the court because it opens the window to overturning Roe and Griswold (and possibly Brown). Don't hold your breath for Collins or Murkowski.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
21. McConnell could allow Collins and Murkowski to vote no
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 03:20 PM
Sep 2018

making it 50-50 with Pence the tie-breaker. You'd need one more R to vote either no or present. It's why I don't understand why Dems, or at the DSCC, aren't covering NV media with ads pressuring Heller.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
20. If kavanaugh in allowed to serve
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 12:25 PM
Sep 2018

It'll be giving putin and the russian mafia a license to use trump to do and get away with anything they want to with no regard for any laws, or rules, or boundaries, and will invite even greater disasters for this country , and others, and for the American people where corruption runs wild unchecked out of OUR White House. What do they have to think about now? Every Senator who does vote for him will regret what they've done, and not just getting forced from office , but forever in their lives.

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
22. I will be careful not to disparage a Dem here.
Sat Sep 8, 2018, 07:02 PM
Sep 2018

but there could be no bigger betrayal of Democratic Party principles. Any Dem Senator that votes for Kavanaugh should be reviled, shunned and expunged from the Party.

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