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malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 02:45 PM Sep 2018

Brett Kavanaugh reportedly accused of sexual misconduct in letter flagged to the FBI by Democrats

Source: New York Daily News

Democrats on Thursday alerted the FBI to decades-old sexual misconduct allegations against President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, according to reports and a person familiar with the matter.

The potentially damning claims, which come as the Senate prepares to vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination to the highest court of the land, were made in a letter obtained by Senate Judiciary Committee ranking member Dianne Feinstein, a Democratic source told the Daily News.

Two officials briefed on the letter’s contents told the New York Times the allegations relate to possible sexual misconduct between Kavanaugh and an unidentified woman when they were both in high school. The nature of the allegations were not immediately known.

Feinstein (D-Calif.) informed her fellow committee Democrats about the letter Wednesday evening, the sources said. Several of the Democrats advised her to contact the FBI.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-democrats-fbi-secret-letter-kavanaugh-20180913-story.html



Please please please derail this despicable nominee.
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Brett Kavanaugh reportedly accused of sexual misconduct in letter flagged to the FBI by Democrats (Original Post) malchickiwick Sep 2018 OP
Okay, let's get to the bottom of this before there's any vote. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #1
true? false? NYDailyNews is dubious at best nt msongs Sep 2018 #2
New York Times have it as well. bearsfootball516 Sep 2018 #4
Some more in CNBC article, 1 hr. ago. appalachiablue Sep 2018 #10
We all did stupid stuff in high school. ChiTownDenny Sep 2018 #37
Just read this on Daily Kos. ChiTownDenny Sep 2018 #44
Interesting theory DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #46
+ 1 ChiTownDenny Sep 2018 #47
+1000 Good theory posited on Daily Kos FakeNoose Sep 2018 #57
Yes, we all did stupid things, but vsrazdem Sep 2018 #49
Then try not to limit yourself the NY Daily News. (shrug) LanternWaste Sep 2018 #12
It's a News Source. djg21 Sep 2018 #30
High School? This zentrum Sep 2018 #3
State matter ScratchCat Sep 2018 #5
That's why Feinstein is proceeding cautiously. HopeAgain Sep 2018 #9
It seems part and parcel of his background check. LanternWaste Sep 2018 #13
Depends on his age at the time. If he was 18 then, it would mean he was an adult. Texin Sep 2018 #18
Most states the age of consent is still 16-17 madville Sep 2018 #51
Kavanaugh was 17. His victim was 15. SunSeeker Sep 2018 #59
High school is a bit long ago. Minors do wacko things sometimes. BUT this may relate to perjury? Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #33
Tough to Get Excited Over This Since It's Been Proven that Justice Thomas is a Sexual Preditor Ccarmona Sep 2018 #6
not to mention the president nt barbtries Sep 2018 #20
The D Trumpster grabs cocks cheezmaka Sep 2018 #54
Remember Clarence Thomas? Laurian Sep 2018 #7
Hell, Thomas is a choir boy compared to the P***y-grabber-in-cheif. progressoid Sep 2018 #45
Yep cheezmaka Sep 2018 #55
Or pubic hair on a coke can.... Laurian Sep 2018 #56
I thought he went to an all male school? forthemiddle Sep 2018 #8
cnn is on to something Chakaconcarne Sep 2018 #11
Lots of speculation here. watoos Sep 2018 #14
As far as the republicans are concerned that makes him a perfect fit still_one Sep 2018 #15
I wish it wasn't about sex DownriverDem Sep 2018 #16
If the sexual misconduct led to a terminated teenage pregnancy...but let's not speculate!! BamaRefugee Sep 2018 #17
If they were both minors and that happened, they would have probably had parental consent. Texin Sep 2018 #21
Why would that be referred to the FBI? meadowlander Sep 2018 #38
If not a terminated pregnancy, perhaps a love child??? in2herbs Sep 2018 #48
Who cares what the guy did in high school ? Trust Buster Sep 2018 #19
"Past", as is said, is prologue." It DOES matter. Texin Sep 2018 #22
I disagree. I think Feinstein is being quite petty here. It will probably backfire. Trust Buster Sep 2018 #23
Is there anyone over the age of 30 . . . djg21 Sep 2018 #32
I'm over 30 and COLGATE4 Sep 2018 #36
I'm 42 and never raped or groped anyone, even in high school. meadowlander Sep 2018 #40
Me. nt SunSeeker Sep 2018 #24
Me. MrsCoffee Sep 2018 #26
So, if he kidnapped, barbecued, and cannibalized an entire mini-van full of cheerleaders... LudwigPastorius Sep 2018 #34
Apparently the person he allegedly raped or molested cares meadowlander Sep 2018 #39
Whatever it is, I'm glad DiFi is proceeding with caution - no sense getting duped with a false or diva77 Sep 2018 #25
more of an advantage Marthe48 Sep 2018 #28
yes, more of an advantage - I agree diva77 Sep 2018 #29
did he pay her off to be quiet? mopinko Sep 2018 #27
If it has to do with sexually abusing a woman, republicans simply will not care. Squinch Sep 2018 #31
Paying hush money Johnny2X2X Sep 2018 #35
Hope she has proof blueinredohio Sep 2018 #41
turned on right wing radio to see what they were saying... IcyPeas Sep 2018 #42
I heard about this while I was signing a BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #43
The accuser wishes to remain anonymous and not proceed any further madville Sep 2018 #50
Potentially damning? Turbineguy Sep 2018 #52
No Statute of limitations in Maryland on sexual assualt MattP Sep 2018 #53
The Rumor Is He Took a Minor Across Statelines for Sex-That's a Federal Felony Ccarmona Sep 2018 #58

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
4. New York Times have it as well.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 02:52 PM
Sep 2018

Thing is, unless the accusations are really serious, it'll probably roll off him. High School was so long ago for him that unless it's something like rape, the general public and Republican senators won't care.

 

ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
37. We all did stupid stuff in high school.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:03 PM
Sep 2018

Unless there were criminal charges, it's stupid stuff. But thank you Sen. Feinstein; this POS needs to be NOT confirmed.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
57. +1000 Good theory posited on Daily Kos
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:40 PM
Sep 2018

Very well written and credible. Thanks for sharing this!

However don't bother reading the idiotic comments below it. Kudos to "Victor Klemperer Respawned."

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
49. Yes, we all did stupid things, but
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:27 PM
Sep 2018

Most of us do not have to answer federal questionnaires or background checks regarding past events. If he lied about any of this, he is in trouble.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Then try not to limit yourself the NY Daily News. (shrug)
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 03:08 PM
Sep 2018

There's a host of media available, many of which are concurrently reporting the same story.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
30. It's a News Source.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:51 PM
Sep 2018

It’s the NY Post that is the Murdoch “paper” that you’re thinking of.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
3. High School? This
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 02:50 PM
Sep 2018

....has set up trap for the Dems written all over it.

Seems to me that in high school, especially back in Kavanaugh's day---they'd have both been minors, or virtually so.

This seems counter-helpful. At least as so far reported.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
5. State matter
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 02:53 PM
Sep 2018

beyond the SOL anyway. Rumors better be wrong and it better involve perjury or this will blow up in our face.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
9. That's why Feinstein is proceeding cautiously.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 02:56 PM
Sep 2018

From what I can tell, there isn't even an accuser who wants to come forward?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. It seems part and parcel of his background check.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 03:09 PM
Sep 2018

Which is helpful. At least as so far reported.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
18. Depends on his age at the time. If he was 18 then, it would mean he was an adult.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 03:33 PM
Sep 2018

Depending on the age of the purported "victim", if he or she were a minor, he would have committed statutory rape or molestation. This was the allegation that DiFi turned over to the FBI, no? He must have been an adult at the time of the incident's commission.

All that said, the rethugs generally don't give a flying fuck about sexual crimes and misdemeanors of any of their members, provided the victim wasn't the same sex as the offender.

madville

(7,412 posts)
51. Most states the age of consent is still 16-17
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:47 PM
Sep 2018

I think only 12 states have an age of consent of 18. Most states also have laws as well that shield teenage relationships, like in some states it is perfectly legal for an 18 year old to have sex with a 16 year old even if the age of consent is 18 because their ages are less than three years apart and stuff like that.

I would imagine most things would be well past most of the statute of limitations in existence as well.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. High school is a bit long ago. Minors do wacko things sometimes. BUT this may relate to perjury?
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:58 PM
Sep 2018

Is there a questionnaire where he answered a question that would cover this, and he didn't put it down? But if there were no charges, that's a longshot.

It wouldn't matter, anyway. Clarence Thomas was confirmed, after all. I think the head of the Committee at that time, Biden, even voted to confirm him.

No one believed women back then.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
6. Tough to Get Excited Over This Since It's Been Proven that Justice Thomas is a Sexual Preditor
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 02:54 PM
Sep 2018

And he’s still on the bench

progressoid

(49,991 posts)
45. Hell, Thomas is a choir boy compared to the P***y-grabber-in-cheif.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:41 PM
Sep 2018

And 60 something million people thought he should be president.

I agree. This won't matter to the GOP.

forthemiddle

(1,381 posts)
8. I thought he went to an all male school?
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 02:55 PM
Sep 2018

Although this report doesn’t say they went to school together, so I suppose it’s still possible.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
14. Lots of speculation here.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 03:14 PM
Sep 2018

I'm not ready to call it a nothingburger. Getting the FBI involved is something.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
21. If they were both minors and that happened, they would have probably had parental consent.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 03:40 PM
Sep 2018

In fact, if both were minors, this would have actually been considered act by the parents rather than they kids, as they didn't have legal standing to make such a decision due their underage status.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
38. Why would that be referred to the FBI?
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:10 PM
Sep 2018

Roe v Wade has made abortion legal since Kavanaugh was 8 years old.

It sounds like the accusation is date rape, groping or something similar.

If it was consensual and she was just underage why come forward about it now?

Texin

(2,596 posts)
22. "Past", as is said, is prologue." It DOES matter.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 03:44 PM
Sep 2018

Everything that a person does throughout his or her life matters insofar as it has a shaping effect on their character as a whole. Obviously, things that happened when someone was an adolescent or young adult should be examined in that light. But please don't couch this in a shrug as if what someone does in high school isn't relevant. What if he had burned the damn school down? What if he stole cars and cracked them up or stripped them down? What if he set neighborhood pets ablaze? Sodomized a two year-old?

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
32. Is there anyone over the age of 30 . . .
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:54 PM
Sep 2018

Who doesn’t regret something they did while in highschool? Sure it depends on the gravity, but most of us were awkward in our adolescent and teen years and did some really stupid shit.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
40. I'm 42 and never raped or groped anyone, even in high school.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:15 PM
Sep 2018

I did break a guy's finger once for grabbing me... guess I regret kicking his hand and not his nuts but suspect that's not what you're getting at.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
34. So, if he kidnapped, barbecued, and cannibalized an entire mini-van full of cheerleaders...
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:58 PM
Sep 2018

it could just be a "youthful indiscretion"?

Let's let the FBI do its due diligence in investigating whatever the allegation is, before we dismiss it.

meadowlander

(4,399 posts)
39. Apparently the person he allegedly raped or molested cares
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:11 PM
Sep 2018

and so should anyone who thinks people shouldn't be raped or molested.

diva77

(7,643 posts)
25. Whatever it is, I'm glad DiFi is proceeding with caution - no sense getting duped with a false or
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:26 PM
Sep 2018

meaningless document which would then put Kavanaugh at an advantage for confirmation.

I'll never recover from the take-down of Dan Rather with the whole Dubya false document that mimicked a real document fiasco.

mopinko

(70,135 posts)
27. did he pay her off to be quiet?
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 04:36 PM
Sep 2018

or threaten her? only way it rises to fbi consideration that i can think of.

blueinredohio

(6,797 posts)
41. Hope she has proof
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:19 PM
Sep 2018

because repubs aren't going to believe anything unless she has proof and Kavanaugh gets scared and withdraws.

IcyPeas

(21,893 posts)
42. turned on right wing radio to see what they were saying...
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:21 PM
Sep 2018

Dr. Drew TV and Radio doctor and his side kick were talking about it. Their story is basically that the democrats are desparate and are really grasping at straws now .

BigmanPigman

(51,611 posts)
43. I heard about this while I was signing a
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 05:35 PM
Sep 2018

state ballot measure outside of a store today. I was so happy when the woman gave me this news since I hadn't read it on DU before I went out. I was so thrilled I gave her one of my Russian nesting doll/crazy eyed tRump pins that I make (I give them to nice Dems...I gave three away today). The guys at my medical weed store hate him too so they got pins.

I called Senator King to thank him for committing to vote NO Kananaugh and Senator Leahy for his work on the committee. I called some of them before but need to thank all the Dems on the committee for working so hard to show Kavavaugh's true lack of character.

madville

(7,412 posts)
50. The accuser wishes to remain anonymous and not proceed any further
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 07:44 PM
Sep 2018

Feinstein has had this letter since July, I guess the tactic was to hold it as long as possible.

If the accuser doesn't give anymore details or come forward this isn't really going anywhere. "Something happened 40 years ago but I won't tell you what it was or identify myself" isn't going to gain much traction.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
58. The Rumor Is He Took a Minor Across Statelines for Sex-That's a Federal Felony
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 09:42 PM
Sep 2018

We’ll see. Also, the FBI has contacted the WH and told them if their findings.

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