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TexasTowelie

(112,438 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:05 AM Sep 2018

Black female Democrats call for changes in party

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — Insurgent Democratic women running for Congress are pushing the party to rethink its approach to politics if they retake control of Capitol Hill in the fall.

At the annual meeting of the Congressional Black Caucus Friday, black female candidates who prevailed in primaries over established incumbents said it's time for a conversation about how the party is structured. They expressed frustration that the party is tilted against rising politicians — especially those of color — and argued that if Democrats flip the House in November, it would be the result of organization and turnout amount black voters, particularly women.

If that happens, the candidates said, gratitude won't be enough. They want a seat at the leadership table and a role in re-examining how the party works.

"It is not enough to just talk about a blue wave and Democrats being in the majority," said Ayanna Pressley, the Boston city councilwoman now poised to become Massachusetts' first black congresswoman. "What matters is who are those Democrats? We have to have a conversation about the guts and the soul of this party."

Read more: https://www.nhregister.com/news/politics/article/Black-female-Democrats-call-for-changes-in-party-13231597.php

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Black female Democrats call for changes in party (Original Post) TexasTowelie Sep 2018 OP
African American women voters are a key demographic group in the party Gothmog Sep 2018 #1
It's kind of how democracy works... Wounded Bear Sep 2018 #2
Yes, 94% of black women voters went for Hillary Clinton in 2016 frazzled Sep 2018 #3
...or taken for granted. calimary Sep 2018 #14
I think it is always good to keep reevaluating an organization of any kind. mysteryowl Sep 2018 #4
Good! ananda Sep 2018 #5
I'm with them. nt Maven Sep 2018 #6
Our most reliable voting block. They must be respected and never be taken for granted lunamagica Sep 2018 #7
Amen. These are the leaders I want. n/t TygrBright Sep 2018 #8
Yes BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #9
A "seat at the table" has to be earned, not demanded question everything Sep 2018 #10
Who says that the people who are now "at the table" all earned that place over a more qualified ehrnst Sep 2018 #13
Thank you Suprk Sep 2018 #21
I remember when Dianne Feinstein, in 1978 then the president of San Francisco Board of question everything Sep 2018 #27
You are missing a couple of points here. ehrnst Sep 2018 #32
But Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has already done some good work icaria Sep 2018 #36
wtf? illegal smile Sep 2018 #23
Who is talking about "primary victories?" question everything Sep 2018 #28
what the hell does this mean? kwassa Sep 2018 #31
WOW recentevents Sep 2018 #25
What makes you think they haven't already earned said position? uponit7771 Sep 2018 #30
I agree with this. Of course let them have every opportunity but they shouldn't leapfrog WhoWoodaKnew Sep 2018 #33
Thank you question everything Sep 2018 #35
Black female candidates have more than earned their seat at the table. beastie boy Sep 2018 #11
Thank you! (nt) ehrnst Sep 2018 #12
As well there should be. Ligyron Sep 2018 #15
How about... kag Sep 2018 #16
It might have a bigger impact if they had waited until the day after the election. LiberalFighter Sep 2018 #17
This must happen lillypaddle Sep 2018 #18
The black female Democrats ARE gutsy. But a seat at the table? Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #19
Yes! sdfernando Sep 2018 #20
I think they should rethink priorities bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #22
Awesome. I agree 100%! KPN Sep 2018 #24
Black women are our super heroine warriors. Period. They are our strength. Guilded Lilly Sep 2018 #26
They can't be expected to lead us out of this Slobodon swamp agincourt Sep 2018 #34
I'm good with this, in fact I welcome it. mountain grammy Sep 2018 #29

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
1. African American women voters are a key demographic group in the party
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:07 AM
Sep 2018

We need to pay attention to the concerns of this group

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. Yes, 94% of black women voters went for Hillary Clinton in 2016
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 10:42 AM
Sep 2018

They are the most reliable Democratic voters, and their power should not be underestimated.

mysteryowl

(7,396 posts)
4. I think it is always good to keep reevaluating an organization of any kind.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 11:07 AM
Sep 2018

Things change as time goes on. Families even need to sit down and discuss how things are going.

Yes, it is time.

BumRushDaShow

(129,491 posts)
9. Yes
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:00 PM
Sep 2018


New ideas and ways to go about legislating and building the party need to come from MORE and more varied voices, not less. The other side has significantly "changed the rule book", so our party needs to adapt to that.

question everything

(47,535 posts)
10. A "seat at the table" has to be earned, not demanded
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:07 PM
Sep 2018

otherwise it will be seen as a token and will be the first to be eliminated when troubles come.

But, I suppose, this is just me, a dinosaur who was raised to expect a decent living by working hard.



 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
13. Who says that the people who are now "at the table" all earned that place over a more qualified
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:43 PM
Sep 2018

person who wasn't white and male? If you have other than a white straight male POV, you understand that very hardworking people have been kept from the table, and sometimes you have to create that space for them and make up for the absence of what they bring to the table.

The assumption that any effort to do that is "tokenism" is 'dinosaur' thinking.

question everything

(47,535 posts)
27. I remember when Dianne Feinstein, in 1978 then the president of San Francisco Board of
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 08:23 PM
Sep 2018

Supervisors, with shock and dignity told the world that Dan White shot mayor Moscone and another supervisor Harvey Milk.

Later she became the mayor of San Francisco. She lost a bid for CA governor and later, in 1992 was elected to the U.S. Senate

Nancy Pelsoi, also, emerged step by step from low level positions until elected to the House in 1987.

Fast forward several decades. Both Hillary Clinton and Al Franken came to the Senate with a name recognition. Yet, for the first several years they sat in the back, studying the ways of Washington.

None of them and others "demanded a seat at the table." They earned it.

Then came Ted Cruz who immediately disrupted one of Feinstein's committee to be in the front. And then caused the government shut down.

And now we have Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who has yet to be officially elected but she and others already demand a "seat at the table."

I hope that our leaders rebuke then, tell them to take their seats and, as a start, learn how things are done in Congress.

Wonder what will be the "reason" for alert on this post.


 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
32. You are missing a couple of points here.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:29 AM
Sep 2018

It takes decades for women to get a seat at the table full of men, and if a woman even implies that she earned it, she's called shrill, and wanting to be "coronated."

If a woman gets to where she is by not "demanding" it, she is considered to have slept her way to the top, either literally or in terms of being a "corporatist" or "working with beltway insiders for years to get an unfair advantage."

AOC is considered a surrogate for Bernie Sanders by many - so that eased her way into getting on the ballot. I don't consider her to be the best example of an adequately experienced first time candidate, but how many times have we heard the term "boy mayor" to describe a young, less experienced candidate getting elected as opposed to "girl mayor."

Is that clearer?

I also hear the "well, I worked for what I have" deployed by defensive white men when one talks about how Black people were kept out of buying valuable real estate for decades, making it harder for them to build wealth, and giving white homebuyers more loans and opportunities to buy.

"I worked for what I have" in response to any discussion of people of color being locked out of a seat at any table is missing the main point of the discussion. It's up there with, "Well, if they don't want to be shot by police, they just need to follow the orders of the police officer, because I always do, and have never had a police officer shoot me in my own apartment."

 

icaria

(97 posts)
36. But Alexandria Ocasio Cortez has already done some good work
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:01 PM
Sep 2018

And has an important constituency far beyond her own district. She speaks for me and I'm on the opposite side of the country.

A rising star, like Ayanna Pressley and Beto O'Rourke! We need more like them - at the table. It's time to embrace a new generation and let them take the reigns.

 

illegal smile

(21 posts)
23. wtf?
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 04:03 PM
Sep 2018

Are you suggesting these black women did not earn their primary victories?
Are you suggesting these black women do not work hard?
It is just you. You are a dinosaur.

question everything

(47,535 posts)
28. Who is talking about "primary victories?"
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 08:25 PM
Sep 2018

The OP is talking about a "seat" at the leadership table.

Of course they work hard. But now they have to learn how Congress works. I assure you that removing shoes before getting on a subway is not enough.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
31. what the hell does this mean?
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 09:31 PM
Sep 2018
I assure you that removing shoes before getting on a subway is not enough.


It sounds racist, to me. The underlying assumption.
 

recentevents

(93 posts)
25. WOW
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 05:00 PM
Sep 2018

Just WOW. If we flip The House this November it will be in large part because of black women. I'd say that earns a seat. Hell, black women earned a seat at the table long ago, just haven't been invited.

But, hey, that's just me, a person who knows it doesn't matter how hard you work, if you're not WMA you don't get what you've earned.

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
33. I agree with this. Of course let them have every opportunity but they shouldn't leapfrog
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:46 AM
Sep 2018

other fairly elected and deserving politicians just because.

question everything

(47,535 posts)
35. Thank you
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 01:27 PM
Sep 2018

I remember when Caroline Kennedy wanted Hillary's senate seat, after Hillary was appointed to be Secretary of State, many here, myself included, objected to this "entitlement."

beastie boy

(9,435 posts)
11. Black female candidates have more than earned their seat at the table.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:35 PM
Sep 2018

However, I am not sure that black female candidates "who prevailed in primaries over established incumbents" constitute the majority of black female candidates. They certainly deserve a voice in shaping the future of the Democratic Party commensurate with their achievements. I just hope they understand that stepping on the toes of other black female candidates and, more importantly, black female voters, is a guarantee that they will not achieve their goals. We are living in the unfortunate aftermath of such near-sighted approach to making changes to the Democratic Party. The least we can do is learn our lessons.

kag

(4,079 posts)
16. How about...
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 12:57 PM
Sep 2018

Maxine Waters for Speaker
Mazie Hirono for Senate Majority Leader
and
Kamala Harris for president
????


LiberalFighter

(51,094 posts)
17. It might have a bigger impact if they had waited until the day after the election.
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 01:03 PM
Sep 2018

To make a statement about it.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
19. The black female Democrats ARE gutsy. But a seat at the table?
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 01:40 PM
Sep 2018

Does that mean they are being kept from having a seat at the table? What table? By whom?

Is the table such that those with experience are given a preference (like when applying for a job)?

Not sure I understand. But I have noticed over the years that it's the black females in Congress who have been most unafraid to confront authority, speak plainly and boldly. I hate to single out anyone because of gender or race or ethnicity, but I have noticed this group before a couple of times, when they were doing and saying things that others would not. As I recall, it was a group of black female Democrats who spoke out clearly against the Iraq War, when most Democrats in Congress were afraid to. If I'm remembering correctly.

I admire them. But I thought they were included, as they got the tenure rank or whatever the rules are.

sdfernando

(4,941 posts)
20. Yes!
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 02:00 PM
Sep 2018

I love strong women!...especially from minority groups....They know the score and they know how to get things done.

bucolic_frolic

(43,295 posts)
22. I think they should rethink priorities
Sat Sep 15, 2018, 02:40 PM
Sep 2018

Survival of the country, survival of the party, reversing Trump era, long term stability.

Universal voting rights, paper ballots, social safety net, tax fairness.

Before you start a turf war, there are certain things that must be done. We must use our majorities well. 1993-94 and 2009-2010 seem like lost opportunities on some of these issues.

agincourt

(1,996 posts)
34. They can't be expected to lead us out of this Slobodon swamp
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:37 AM
Sep 2018

but it looks like they are. Much appreciated

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