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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:51 AM Sep 2018

Chief Justice Roberts halts campaign finance ruling

Source: Politico




By QUINT FORGEY and JOSH GERSTEIN 09/15/2018 08:56 PM EDT

Chief Justice John Roberts stepped in Saturday to halt a federal judge’s order last month that a conservative political group said threatened to discourage independent expenditures by raising the prospect that anonymous donors could be exposed.

Roberts acted Saturday after a three-judge D.C. Circuit panel turned down the same arguments for a stay earlier in the day.

U.S. District Court Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell in August issued a ruling invalidating a Federal Election Commission regulation that has allowed donors to so-called dark-money groups to remain anonymous.

That decision was the result of a lawsuit filed by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) against the FEC after Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS failed to disclose the names of contributors behind its effort to defeat Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown in 2012.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/15/john-roberts-campaign-finance-crossroads-825761

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Chief Justice Roberts halts campaign finance ruling (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
Time to start impeaching SCROTUS scoundrels lagomorph777 Sep 2018 #1
+ 1 ChiTownDenny Sep 2018 #15
Simplified explanation needed here. Thanks. northoftheborder Sep 2018 #2
I think the simple answer is genxlib Sep 2018 #3
I think you read it well Perseus Sep 2018 #4
Or Roberts could simply want SCOTUS to make the final decision and is doing this in order to simply cstanleytech Sep 2018 #7
I'd say your chances at Powerball are greater. FoxNewsSucks Sep 2018 #9
" I'd say your chances at Powerball are greater." Aye, in fact I probably could cstanleytech Sep 2018 #10
I looked up Crossroads' Motion to SCOTUS Ponietz Sep 2018 #11
Roberts is a Citizens United vote--not suprised he did this. damn riversedge Sep 2018 #13
I think you're right. JohnnyRingo Sep 2018 #21
How very Republican of him rurallib Sep 2018 #5
Exactly! mountain grammy Sep 2018 #6
Uh-huh. And here we go. Decades of rulings to favor big money & take power from people. nt Honeycombe8 Sep 2018 #8
So long as money is equated with "free speech..." malthaussen Sep 2018 #12
+1. "How much free speech can you afford?" dalton99a Sep 2018 #14
Roberts is in Putin's pocket, too. I wonder what Russia has on Roberts. McCamy Taylor Sep 2018 #16
I've never considered that SCOTUS justices could be contaminated by foreign assists. Grasswire2 Sep 2018 #17
Not everything is about Putin. onenote Sep 2018 #18
IMPEACH THOSE CORRUPT PEOPLE ROB-ROX Sep 2018 #19
Of course Roberts did. The RW SCOTUS will never protect our Democracy ag Dark Money stuffmatters Sep 2018 #20
There a name for it: Corporate Socialism ! Cryptoad Sep 2018 #22
Whew, that was close. moondust Sep 2018 #23

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
3. I think the simple answer is
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:14 AM
Sep 2018

The lower court ruled to show the names connected to dark money.

Knowing that it will get appealed to the Supreme Court, they called off the requirement to release the names until they get a chance to see it.

It seems like it will ultimately go to the Supreme Court. It will either get upheld (show the names) or overturned (keep the names hidden). There is some logic to that since showing the names is something that cannot be undone. The SC is preserving their power to make the decision.

That is my read of it.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
4. I think you read it well
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:19 AM
Sep 2018

The key is in this paragraph:
"U.S. District Court Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell in August issued a ruling invalidating a Federal Election Commission regulation that has allowed donors to so-called dark-money groups to remain anonymous. "

In other words, Judge Beryl wanted transparency, but Roberts (GOP stooge) does not.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
7. Or Roberts could simply want SCOTUS to make the final decision and is doing this in order to simply
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:49 AM
Sep 2018

expedite the case into the hands of SCOTUS in order to prevent dragging it out for years with no real resolution in sight.
Granted, he could be seeking to kill it because he is a Repugnant appointed by a Repugnant but there is still a chance that his real goal is to simply make sure the case is heard promptly but then again there is also a chance I could win the powerball one day.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
9. I'd say your chances at Powerball are greater.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:19 AM
Sep 2018

People seem to forget that Roberts is the rightwing scumbag tool who interfered in Florida in 2000. Then lied under oath during his confirmation hearings.

And then asked that Citizens United be filed "differently" so that he could rule it the way he wanted. He's largely responsible for the problem of outside money, he's not gonna change that now.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
10. " I'd say your chances at Powerball are greater." Aye, in fact I probably could
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:23 AM
Sep 2018

win back to back 1 billion lottery drawings LOL

Ponietz

(2,976 posts)
11. I looked up Crossroads' Motion to SCOTUS
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:50 AM
Sep 2018

Crossroads still has to Petition for Certiorari. If SCOTUS grants Cert, looks bad for daylight. Their claim is insane: we will suffer irreparable harm (in November, perhaps?) if the public knows who our donors are, and we’re a goddammed political organization, and money rules so fuck the public.

Here’s the Conclusion to their Motion: “The district court’s ruling is unprecedented and its timing extraordinary. Rather than force Crossroads and similarly situated organizations to choose between sacrificing their core First Amendment speech rights just prior to a major national election and their donors’ associational and privacy rights – neither of which can be restored if Crossroads prevails on appeal – this Court should stay the district court’s ruling pending appeal.”

[link:https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18A274/63755/20180914130255230_SCOTUS%20Crossroads%20Petition%20for%20Stay%20Pending%20Appeal.pdf|

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
21. I think you're right.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 06:19 PM
Sep 2018

Personally, I'm holding out a very real hope that Roberts becomes the next swing vote on the court.

I hold that hope in part because of his vote on Obamacare's individual mandate where he not only voted to allow it, he actually instructed the defendants on the language needed to pass constitutional muster. He then added that language to the case.

Roberts is very conservative indeed, so he'll usually side with big business on mergers and such, but I believe he takes his position with the great weight required. He may end up being the least politically partisan member of the SC, for what that's worth. I've heard hints that he's not that fond of Donald Trump too.

malthaussen

(17,202 posts)
12. So long as money is equated with "free speech..."
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:23 AM
Sep 2018

... we'll have this problem. It is interesting, too, that "free speech" is also equated with "anonymous speech," which kind of implies that anyone can say anything he damned well pleases and not be liable for it, which would seem to invalidate centuries of law about libel and slander.

-- Mal

onenote

(42,714 posts)
18. Not everything is about Putin.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 02:46 PM
Sep 2018

Jeez, we look foolish blaming every single thing on Putin. The repub position on campaign finance long pre-dates Putin being a significant player on the world scene.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
19. IMPEACH THOSE CORRUPT PEOPLE
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 03:03 PM
Sep 2018

There should be enough information to prove these republican SHILLS are ready for their own witch hunt ......Sending these corrupt people to prison should signal to the country that justice will be done. ....I am ready to shine a light into the darkest republican hole to send the RATS scattering. ....It was bad during Obama's time that the republicans did so many witch hunts which proved NOTHING but was time and money .........COOK THE BASTARDS .......

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
20. Of course Roberts did. The RW SCOTUS will never protect our Democracy ag Dark Money
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 05:51 PM
Sep 2018

From foreign or domestic enemies of democracy from the Koch Bros to Putin.

California has some laws against dark money and we actually caught the Kochs in 2012 for funneling/laundering illegal dark money in CA Props 30 &32 campaigns. The Kochs were fined, "disengorged" and, probably worse for the "who me?" Koch Bros, publicly exposed/humiliated.

No one in the RW Pravda Infrastructure wants national or state laws against their very life blood(i.e. dark money) on the books. So expect more assaults on states' right to legislate ag dark money to reach SCOTUS and those rights to be unilaterally overturned by the Roberts Court.

moondust

(19,989 posts)
23. Whew, that was close.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 04:57 AM
Sep 2018

Once you start pretending that money is speech you have to be careful that nobody finds out who is doing all the screaming.

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