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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:11 PM Sep 2018

Grassley working to set up calls with Kavanaugh, accuser before vote

Source: The Hill



BY JORDAIN CARNEY - 09/16/18 07:04 PM EDT

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, is working to set up phone calls with Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, before a committee vote scheduled for Thursday.

"Given the late addendum to the background file and revelations of Dr. Ford’s identity, Chairman Grassley is actively working to set up such follow-up calls with Judge Kavanaugh and Dr. Ford ahead of Thursday’s scheduled vote," a spokesman for Grassley said on Sunday.

The aide added that "the Chairman and Ranking Member routinely hold bipartisan staff calls with nominees when updates are made to nominees’ background files."

The announcement comes after Ford spoke publicly about her accusation that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her in the early 1980s, while they were both in high school, in an interview with The Washington Post published on Sunday.



Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/406939-grassley-working-to-set-up-calls-with-kavanaugh-ford-before-vote

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Grassley working to set up calls with Kavanaugh, accuser before vote (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
Televangelism becomes TeleJudiciary bucolic_frolic Sep 2018 #1
"For innocent press 1, for guilty press 2, for no lo contedre press 3... George II Sep 2018 #17
... LAGC Sep 2018 #26
I don't understand. George II Sep 2018 #37
I was just laughing at your quotation. LAGC Sep 2018 #38
Oh okay, sorry I was skeptical!!! George II Sep 2018 #39
GOPers don't care. They will pretend that they do, sorta. Iliyah Sep 2018 #2
I'm surprised. I expected the repukes to ignore her altogether. comradebillyboy Sep 2018 #3
I am surprised too. This must mean they are worried. marylandblue Sep 2018 #8
The credibility of the accuser is at least as credible as the accused, and there are witnesses... Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #9
another victim? Kali Sep 2018 #23
I haven't heard of one, either. dchill Sep 2018 #27
Did you find it? I could not, although I admit to not searching too hard. n/t Tess49 Sep 2018 #29
Sorry, meant to say another female witness in the room. Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #32
Thanks for clarifying. Tess49 Sep 2018 #33
in the room? Kali Sep 2018 #34
Here is her full letter: Fred Sanders Sep 2018 #35
yeah, that is what I thought Kali Sep 2018 #36
Stupid. Corgigal Sep 2018 #4
Exactly, I hope she refuses to talk to them Perseus Sep 2018 #14
There is nothing in the article about DiFI also speaking with her. ....... riversedge Sep 2018 #16
i want those calls made public orleans Sep 2018 #5
THIS 100% bluestarone Sep 2018 #19
The best lawyers, SCVDem Sep 2018 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Trueblue Texan Sep 2018 #7
AFAIK she has offered to come to DC DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #10
The Democratic members of that committee Mr.Bill Sep 2018 #11
Trying to remove Democratic members from the process - again! pazzyanne Sep 2018 #15
Sure, let's have the GOP rape her completely this time. bitterross Sep 2018 #12
Isn't this akin to witness tampering? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2018 #13
Why not get them both in for a live public hearing? George II Sep 2018 #18
Just proves how fucking desperate Grassley is. Izzy Blue Sep 2018 #20
yep you nailed it steve2470 Sep 2018 #30
Just Like Former Iowa Coach Steve Alford's Handling of Rape Case TomCADem Sep 2018 #21
What's the cantankerous old fool trying to do, get her to detract her statement? YOHABLO Sep 2018 #22
Grassley wants to negotiate a Stormy-style settlement over the phone.... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #24
He isn't conceding anything by trying to set up phone testimony -- he's trying to hide her from view RockRaven Sep 2018 #25
That's a real dick move, Chuck. dchill Sep 2018 #28
This would NEVER be allowed in a court room.... getagrip_already Sep 2018 #31

bucolic_frolic

(43,172 posts)
1. Televangelism becomes TeleJudiciary
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:15 PM
Sep 2018

Crimes investigated by phone, just call your local court and say "Hi!"

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. "For innocent press 1, for guilty press 2, for no lo contedre press 3...
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:24 PM
Sep 2018

... to reach a live Senator press 0 or stay on the line. "

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
38. I was just laughing at your quotation.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:29 PM
Sep 2018

It really is ridiculous how they think they can judge credibility over a phone call.

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. Oh okay, sorry I was skeptical!!!
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 05:30 PM
Sep 2018

But since that all happened (the announcement of the telephone "interview&quot it now seems that there's clamoring for the two of them to appear at a live hearing of the Judiciary Committee. Damn, I hope that happens.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. GOPers don't care. They will pretend that they do, sorta.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:15 PM
Sep 2018

Then follow through with the vote like she is worth a bag of nothing.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. The credibility of the accuser is at least as credible as the accused, and there are witnesses...
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:57 PM
Sep 2018

and another named victim...the snowball is rolling. Remember the snowball that rolled over Al Franken was fist sized compared to this mountain.

Frankly this nomination toast is fried, the credibility contest being resolved in three days so a vote can take place is...too stinky even for Shitler stained a Republicans. Imagine this all hanging over the head of a confirmed justice forever...political suicide.

This is not Anita Hill 2.0, this is a fresh ball game.

Kali

(55,009 posts)
23. another victim?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:54 PM
Sep 2018

I am going to ask for a link but I will probably find it before anybody replies, but wow I handn't heard that yet.

Kali

(55,009 posts)
34. in the room?
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 11:49 AM
Sep 2018

you keep saying these things that seem a little off, what do you mean in the room? do you mean at the party? what I read was another GUY in the room...

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
35. Here is her full letter:
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 11:57 AM
Sep 2018

.............

From across the room a very drunken REDACTED said mixed words to Kavanaugh ranging from "go for it" to "stop."

At one point when REDACTED jumped onto the bed the weight on me was substantial. The pile toppled, and the two scrapped with each other. After a few attempts to get away, I was able to take this opportune moment to get up and run across to a hallway bathroom. I locked the bathroom door behind me. Both loudly stumbled down the stair well at which point other persons at the house were talking with them. I exited the bathroom, ran outside of the house and went home.


https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/16/politics/blasey-ford-kavanaugh-letter-feinstein/index.html

REDACTED was male, again my error. One other female at the party, I think that was in follow up news, and 3 males in total.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/16/politics/blasey-ford-kavanaugh-letter-feinstein/index.html

Kali

(55,009 posts)
36. yeah, that is what I thought
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:25 PM
Sep 2018

you keep getting my hopes up that there was more information or other witnesses/events

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
4. Stupid.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:25 PM
Sep 2018

Why does she want to talk to him? What will this accomplish, besides more harm to the victim?

Some men are stupid, including this senator.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
14. Exactly, I hope she refuses to talk to them
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:45 PM
Sep 2018

If he wants to talk to her then it needs to be done in a public setting.

riversedge

(70,238 posts)
16. There is nothing in the article about DiFI also speaking with her. .......
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:03 PM
Sep 2018



......The move to set up phone calls with Kavanaugh and Ford comes as Republicans are facing a growing demand, including from some of their own members, for the vote on Thursday to be delayed.

GOP Sen. Jeff Flake (Ariz.), a member of the committee, told the Post that he doesn't believe the vote on Thursday should move forward without hearing more from Ford.

“For me, we can’t vote until we hear more," Flake said.
Several Democratic members of the committee as well as Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) have also called for the vote to be delayed.

“I support Mrs. Ford’s decision to share her story, and now that she has, it is in the hands of the FBI to conduct an investigation. This should happen before the Senate moves forward on this nominee," Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the top Democrat on the committee, said Sunday.

orleans

(34,053 posts)
5. i want those calls made public
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:26 PM
Sep 2018

EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS SHOULD BE SHOWN TO THE PUBLIC

he's up for supreme court! every person in this country has a right to hear any questions asked and answered.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
6. The best lawyers,
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 07:35 PM
Sep 2018

Lookin' at you Avenatti, will rip this illegal bullshit apart!

Even the Turtle knows the jig is up!

(Can I still say Jig?)

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
10. AFAIK she has offered to come to DC
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:01 PM
Sep 2018

and testify. They don't need to do telephone calls, just reopen the hearing and let her testify. I'll bet Kavanaugh won't look her in the eye.

Mr.Bill

(24,296 posts)
11. The Democratic members of that committee
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:38 PM
Sep 2018

have the right to hear her testify and have her answer their questions. Grassley is trying to remove the Democrats from the process.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
12. Sure, let's have the GOP rape her completely this time.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:40 PM
Sep 2018

I hope she accepts the invitation for the calls. For the simple reason it adds to the gravity and credibility of the allegations if she does so. She should insist that all of them be made public though.

We all know that if the incident with Kavanaugh amounted to attempted rape these calls will be full and total rape of her character and soul by the GOP. They don't have a soul or care about her. They care about getting him in to save their power.

13. Isn't this akin to witness tampering?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 08:42 PM
Sep 2018

And if he's causing it to happen, isn't Grassley aiding and abetting witness tampering? Or is it o.k. because he's a Republican?

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
20. Just proves how fucking desperate Grassley is.
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:07 PM
Sep 2018

Besides being one of the stupidest ideas no lawyer would let their client participate in this charade.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
30. yep you nailed it
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 06:23 AM
Sep 2018

Grassley wants to say "Ok I talked to both of them and I think she's lying", shove it under the rug and go ahead. Asinine strategy.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
21. Just Like Former Iowa Coach Steve Alford's Handling of Rape Case
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:08 PM
Sep 2018

Maybe this is how they handle allegations of sexual assault in Iowa? If a woman is sexually assaulted, have the victim and assailant meet and pray and all is forgiven. Grassley should give Steve Alford a call for some tips on how to handle this.

http://www.espn.com/espnw/news-commentary/article/9168818/espnw-ucla-coach-steve-alford-statement-not-rooted-reality

In a report by a committee commissioned by University of Iowa president David Skorton to investigate the school's role in resolving the case, it was detailed that: "... individuals affiliated with Athletes in Action, a religious organization, contacted the victim to seek an informal resolution of the matter by asking the victim to meet informally for prayer with the perpetrator. One of those individuals had a longstanding relationship with the basketball program and its coach, which included traveling with the basketball team and conducting voluntary chapel and Bible study activities for the team and staff."

In other words, according to the report, Alford tried to indirectly coerce the victim into dropping her charges. The victim's response, the report said, was to pursue criminal charges against Pierce.

"I'm not sure who would think this apology is just a coincidence, that he decided to apologize after all these years and that it just happened to be when he was getting a new job and this issue has come up," Miller said.

On Friday, ChicagoSideSports.com quoted Pierce, who said he was back in his hometown of Chicago because he was injured while playing in France, and that he called Alford last week to congratulate him on the UCLA job.
 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
22. What's the cantankerous old fool trying to do, get her to detract her statement?
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:28 PM
Sep 2018

What a grouchy old coot.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
24. Grassley wants to negotiate a Stormy-style settlement over the phone....
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 10:59 PM
Sep 2018

but it is not going to work with this lady........

RockRaven

(14,967 posts)
25. He isn't conceding anything by trying to set up phone testimony -- he's trying to hide her from view
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 11:27 PM
Sep 2018

The whole phone testimony thing is an attempt to keep the public from seeing her face while she speaks, while she listens to the questions posed to her. It is an attempt to keep the public from putting a face to the name of the person harmed by this man. It is an attempt to keep the public from feeling empathy.

There isn't a person alive who paid attention to the Anita Hill testimony who does not remember it (regardless of which opinion-side they were on, villian or victim). They remember. This stuff is memorable, for good or for ill.

Oh, btw, Grassley isn't trying to salvage the nomination; as far as he is concerned it is still a done deal. He's trying to limit the damage to GOP Senators' next elections after they confirm him.

getagrip_already

(14,755 posts)
31. This would NEVER be allowed in a court room....
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 08:25 AM
Sep 2018

A rapist would never be allowed to directly question a victim. Why should it be different here?

She gets her say. He gets his. He doesn't get to ask her questions directly.

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