FEMA's 'Presidential Alert' test postponed as some Americans want to disconnect
Source: NBC News
The wireless emergency alert test was set to go out Thursday before FEMA announced it will be pushed back to Oct. 3.
by Farnoush Amiri / Sep.17.2018 / 8:15 PM ET
Plenty of Americans aren't terribly keen to be receiving text messages from the president, even in an emergency.
And they'll have a reprieve, if only briefly.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency, which oversees the wireless emergency alert (WEA) system, announced that the test that had been scheduled for Thursday will be pushed back to Oct. 3, citing the "ongoing response efforts to Hurricane Florence."
The initial announcement was met with concerns from social media users who stated that a direct message from President Donald Trump to the nation could be used for political purposes, similar to how he uses his official Twitter page.
One online user responded to FEMA's announcement via Twitter, saying, "We dont need presidential alerts! We already have public emergency alert messaging. This is not necessary!".................................................
"This POTUS is so bad that folks are prepared to forgo the potential benefits of a national alert system - which already exists on radio and TV - because it is hard to believe Trump will not abuse it.".............................
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/mobile/fema-s-presidential-alert-test-postponed-some-americans-want-disconnect-n910406
This means Trump will have all telephone numbers!! NOPE
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SWBTATTReg
(22,130 posts)Note, since when have we had an emergency that required this type of messaging from the so called president?
There really hasn't been a true emergency since JFK and the cuba missile crisis, and other emergencies? It's going to be too late anyways, so why a so called pres. text? To tell us that we're going to die in the next 5 minutes? What exactly is being accomplished here seriously?
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)And they do sweet fuck-all about it.
Can you imagine if he had his own PERSONAL Twitter that no one could delete or ignore or respond back with well-deserved public derision? He would be like a kid in a candy store. An evil, vengeful, demented kid.
durablend
(7,460 posts)"FEMA is also tasked with ensuring that the President can alert the public under all conditions in cases of national emergencies, including natural disasters and terrorist threats."
Pretty sure possible impeachment (if not worse) along with Democrats usurping "his" Congress count as a terrorist threat where he's concerned.
avebury
(10,952 posts)only help the Democrats.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)This is a no-money bet of course, I expect everyone at DU will agree, which leaves the other choice useless.
In his quest for dictatorship I think he thinks this is a good tool for him to begin his campaign to the entire country. And I would like to know which enemy they are going to invent that would require a national alert. Unless it is a nuclear bomb that is going to annihilate the entire planet, at which time the alert is useless anyway, I would like to hear a good reason why this expense is needed, besides the dotard trying to send his childish messages.
onenote
(42,704 posts)Of course, I actually have bothered to learn about how the system works unlike the sky-is-falling crowd.
NoodleyAppendage
(4,619 posts)There has to be a way to hack out the EAS notification. The WEA can be turned off, and if on the same carrier, then something can be done (hopefully). At least now theres more time to work out a solution.
bucolic_frolic
(43,173 posts)And if they're looking for undue interference and influence in our elections, here it comes - a Mind Control tweet from Trump!
"This is a TEST of the Emergency Alert Text System! I am in an EMERGENCY! To prevent your phone from being locked, VOTE FOR ME!!"
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)That's not actually how it works.
Your cell carrier would have to be one that even participates and your phone would need to have the technology in it to even receive the message. The carrier would receive the message from some originator (NWS, local Emergency Management, obviously the "President" ) and would blast it out to the devices on their networks. In many areas, you can also sign up to receive these alerts via email (like the "Ready.gov" municipal participants). The message would also go to broadcast sources like radio stations and television.
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The issue that I would agree with however, is the current occupant of the WH and what the message content would be but since it appears that in order for originators to use the system, they would have to login to a special application to create and then send the message, this is too much for the 3-year old to handle and obviously someone else would do it (he can't really do it from his own phone).
Folks might recall the incident in Hawai'i and their "test" blast message sent via this system and the panic it caused. Adjustments to that program have now been made due to the issues that happened with this event.
Rhiannon12866
(205,440 posts)This definitely makes it sound less scary!
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)they can't just link his twitter feed into the Emergency Alert System's actual program. Anything that is highly "technical" and requires multiple steps and menus to actually execute is the only failsafe we have against more frivolous blabbering unless you have a Stephen Miller (or Miller-type or directed staffer) login to that application and start misusing the system to spew propaganda via an Alert blast.
I know growing up with the once-ubiquitous "Emergency Broadcast System", with its monthly tests on radio and TV, I don't think I ever recall an actual interruption for an emergency with "further information" (including a weather one). It wasn't until they changed to the "Emergency Alert System" (which happened in the late '90s) that I finally saw/heard a real weather alert one (vs the monthly tests) here - maybe about 10 - 15 years ago, where for the first time I experienced a red screen and/or red ticker bar at the bottom of the TV screen with a warning and recorded audio overlay that blanked out the TV broadcast's audio. It's probably because my local NWS office rarely used alerts (outside of what was broadcast on NOAA Weather Radio), until recently. Now I see them more and more for severe weather - notably severe thunderstorms and especially for any tornado warnings (although they have to make the decision whether to use the EAS to alert to the storm... they don't always do that).
I think some of the increase in using the system was prompted because this was going on for awhile -
Rhiannon12866
(205,440 posts)It's annoying since it blocks the audio of whatever happens to be on. I guess they figure at this hour not too many are watching.
And you're right, if Trump couldn't figure out how to use a speaker phone, he couldn't be trusted to successfully administer any kind of important alert, even if it was only a test. But I also worry that he's so addicted to demanding attention that he'd be sorely tempted to abuse a system that he knew could reach everyone - not just FOX viewers or "red states."
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)THAT is our failsafe.
That's not stopping someone like Bolton (as National Security Advisor) from directing someone to misuse the system but thankfully the tech aspect needed for actually sending a message at least reduces the potential for frivolous misuse.
Rhiannon12866
(205,440 posts)That they'd also be tempted to take advantage, under the guise of presidential authority. Although it wouldn't be all that hard to tell the difference - like we can when Trump's Tweets are spelled correctly - and without a lot of "dots."
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)when people ignore emergency messages after tRump sends a few "fake news" emergency messages.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I'm never more than a few miles from home and never talk to anywhere but home anyway.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,348 posts)I'll walk into the carrier's local office, cancel, and noisily destroy the phone in their customers' view.
onenote
(42,704 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,348 posts)I don't depend on my phone to live. It's for calling out, not in. Texting is a convenience, but not a necessity. I do check it every few days.
Bayard
(22,075 posts)No collusion! No collusion! No collusion! No collusion! No collusion!
truthisfreedom
(23,148 posts)were so incredibly embarrassed by the universally negative rejection, they had no idea how to tell him.