Imam held in Pakistan blasphemy case (PLANTED burned Koran on arrested girl)
Source: BBC
Pakistani police have arrested an imam accused of planting burnt pages of the Koran in the bag of a Christian girl accused of blasphemy, officials say.
The girl was detained two weeks ago after after an angry mob demanded she be punished for the alleged crime.
However, a witness has testified that imam Khalid Chishti put the pages in the bag himself, local media say.
The case of the girl, named as Rimsha, who is said to be about 14, has sparked international condemnation.
Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19454739
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)This Iman is cut from the same cloth as the Inquisition and the Crusaders. Shame on him.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)OH, I thought you were mentioning Evangelical Christians!
atreides1
(16,085 posts)But I know there are several people you can ask...Pat Robertson, Pope Benedict, Cardinal Dolan...I'd put Jerry Falwell on this list but he's already busy doing something else!
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)bitchkitty
(7,349 posts)But if it's just for framing the girl, he might get off with a scolding...I've learned not to be surprised.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)an Imam to be any better or worse than a Priest or a Bishop.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)eom
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)so if he planted the burned pages, who burned them?
defacto7
(13,485 posts)In other words, it would be for a good cause. Destroying the infidel.
I don't mean to offend but I believe religion poisons everything.
That poor girl and her family... and what a sick people that Imam and his followers are. He will probably get off.
about the "poison" comment.
4saken
(152 posts)The specifics of each believer's concept of "god" vary. So an act against that god character can be easily found in the actions of others, and easily avoided in one's own. Taking advantage of the brain's cognitive dissonance avoidance.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)burnsei sensei
(1,820 posts)Their heads would explode.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,027 posts)Banned Italian ad campaign:
Kber
(5,043 posts)which is forbidden in Islam, Christianity and Judaism.
Blasphemy would be preaching a false or incorrect doctrine, which (assuming you buy the premise that his particular flavor of religion is the right one) he didn't technically do.
Now if he swore in Allah's name that the girl burned the Koran, you have "taking the lord's name in vain" covered.
If his parents were honest and decent folk, you have "honoring your mother and your father" covered as well.
I assume he didn't steal the Koran, so no "no stealing" violation.
I have to wonder about motive. If there is a fine or the opportunity for blackmail, I'd be worried about the commandment not to covet your neighbor's stuff.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Blasphemy. Blasphemy laws are rampant in the ME and they mean whatever they want them to mean.
But why argue the definition of a non existent concept?
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Since that does seem to fly as the prevailing explanation in North America when a hoax of this nature is exposed.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)RVN VET
(492 posts)One would hope that stoning is not out of the question -- but what will probably happen is he'll say he was under orders from Allah and the mob will go after the girl and her family, either killing them all or forcing them to flee the country. The Pakistani government will issue a page 20 "regret" and move on to other things -- like what are we gonna do about those damned Hindus!
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)"The imam was arrested after his deputy Maulvi Zubair and two others told a magistrate he added pages from the Koran to the burnt pages brought to him by a witness," an investigator Munir Hussain Jaffri said.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)to destroy them, take their home and possessions!
Win win!
for those who missed it....
defacto7
(13,485 posts)sarc.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)however, the fact she was set up just....well i don't know.
what was his motivation? just to screw over the christian kid?
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I guess its possible this imam is a "true believer" but the reasons are probably much more banal - stirring up the mob is fun (and powerful) for religious leaders imho, and they always covet their neighbor's stuff.
Planting the pages on the girl indicates to me, imho, that he's probably just run-of-the-mill-evil, instead of being a "true believer".
End result is the same - the odd (Christian) family is destroyed, mob incited, family's possessions stolen. The "holy man" (sic) will get off with a slap on the wrist, and private praise from the PTB, and go home a hero. Stronger than ever.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)and if it was him, shouldn't he face the same punishment?
oh and he says why he did it:
Imam Khalid Chishti allegedly told a witness, after tampering with the girl's bag, that this was a "way of getting rid of Christians", a prosecutor said.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)well, until the Deputy Imam fingers the Chief Imam in order to take his place
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)but i get your point. could be rivalry and a lie, could be rivalry and the truth, could be just the truth and no rivalry, but if it keeps a special needs child from being executed for a religious prohibition, that is a good. and even if the chief imam (possibly former at this point) didn't plant the stuff but he is the one who started the ball rolling against this child then if he ends up getting stoned to death his own actions were 'the proximate cause of his own death. im not endorsing anyones stoning but i am just saying the chief imam will have had sealed his own fate when he tried to seal the little girl's.
that may not be real justice, but it is at least interestingly ironic.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)That imam is an asshole.
Archae
(46,340 posts)Maybe the Imam wanted some sex and she raised a ruckus.
Maybe someone is setting up the Imam.
I don't know.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)He probably won't face any prosecution. After all, the girl is a "Kafir" or infidel and lying to non-Muslims is just fine in a place like Pakistan. This is a place where even Shiite Muslims are rounded up and killed for no other reason other than being Shiites and the government doesn't bat an eye.
Remember, this is our "committed ally in the war on terrorism"