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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:45 AM Sep 2018

White House Drafts Order to Look Into Google, Facebook

Source: Bloomberg News



By Ben Brody and Jennifer Jacobs

September 22, 2018, 12:02 AM EDT Updated on September 22, 2018, 11:24 AM EDT

Executive order is preliminary and isn’t clear will be signed

President has complained companies ‘totally discriminating’


The White House has drafted an executive order for President Donald Trump’s signature that would instruct federal antitrust and law enforcement agencies to open probes into the practices of Alphabet Inc.’s Google, Facebook Inc., and other social media companies.

The order is in its preliminary stages and hasn’t yet been run past other government agencies, said a White House official. Bloomberg News obtained a draft of the order.

The document instructs U.S. antitrust authorities to “thoroughly investigate whether any online platform has acted in violation of the antitrust laws.” It instructs other government agencies to recommend within a month after it’s signed, actions that could potentially “protect competition among online platforms and address online platform bias.”

The document doesn’t name any companies. If signed, the order would represent a significant escalation of Trump’s aversion to Google, Facebook, Twitter and other social media companies, whom he’s publicly accused of silencing conservative voices and news sources online.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-22/draft-order-for-trump-would-crack-down-on-google-facebook
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White House Drafts Order to Look Into Google, Facebook (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
Trump is upset that they're blocking all of his Russian troll pals EricMaundry Sep 2018 #1
Exactly! lark Sep 2018 #3
Grump Trumpy probably looks for Russian troll posts EricMaundry Sep 2018 #11
Ha! This would take years and years to do, investigating eh what?, common business ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2018 #2
If signed it Snackshack Sep 2018 #4
Dictator... Eliot Rosewater Sep 2018 #5
Somewhat torn about this. They are monopolistic. bitterross Sep 2018 #6
You are never forced to use any of those social media or search engines. There is no monopoly when wasupaloopa Sep 2018 #9
They are not monopolies obamanut2012 Sep 2018 #15
Try StartPage [com].. noneof_theabove Sep 2018 #20
What monopoly? Bell was the only game in town. Silly. n/t X_Digger Sep 2018 #16
There is a difference between dominant and monopolistic jgmiller Sep 2018 #7
Let Rupert Murdoch start his own search engine. JohnnyRingo Sep 2018 #8
He's going full Stalin now. sandensea Sep 2018 #10
Sounds like a clear abuse of power case by the White House and the President if he signs it. cstanleytech Sep 2018 #12
While they're at it, order Twitter and YouTube to restore the InfoWars account dalton99a Sep 2018 #13
It sounds like something he would have assigned to Uday and Qusay. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2018 #14
"The document doesn't name any companies" - confusing much? OhNo-Really Sep 2018 #17
I can't wait to see the bill for this nonsense. GoCubsGo Sep 2018 #18
Yea. You do that... paleotn Sep 2018 #19
Hmmm... ck4829 Oct 2018 #21
 

EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
1. Trump is upset that they're blocking all of his Russian troll pals
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:48 AM
Sep 2018

He needs them to save his bacon in November.

lark

(23,158 posts)
3. Exactly!
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:52 AM
Sep 2018

He and PUtin planned the last attack and it was successful and he wants them to steal our elections again and nobody better get in the way of Agent Orange Chaos.

 

EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
11. Grump Trumpy probably looks for Russian troll posts
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 01:17 PM
Sep 2018

He's probably one of their most devoted readers. Just about the only good thing he gets to read about himself on Facebook comes from them. Now he's having trouble finding very many and it is harshing his almost nonexistent mellow.

SWBTATTReg

(22,171 posts)
2. Ha! This would take years and years to do, investigating eh what?, common business ...
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:51 AM
Sep 2018

practices and the like? Antitrust? It took decades to break up the old telephone monopoly giant AT&T into the baby Bells (telephone companies such as Bell South, SWBT, etc.). Can't also arbitrarily break up a company and thus take away assets w/o adequate compensation. This will be fought in the courts for decades.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
4. If signed it
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 11:52 AM
Sep 2018

Is another clear abuse of the power of the office.

Shutting down Alex Jones / Infowars was not a silencing of a conservative voice or news service. It was putting an end to one specific persons broadcasting of insanity.


 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
6. Somewhat torn about this. They are monopolistic.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 12:18 PM
Sep 2018

Last edited Sat Sep 22, 2018, 03:20 PM - Edit history (1)

I don't feel that Trump's motives for doing this are proper. He's not doing it because he really believes monopolistic practices are a problem. They're only a problem when they aren't in his favor.

Reality is though. These companies do have too much control over the media and opinion in this nation. I think we should realize that by now given the last election and Cambridge Analytica.

The only ways of combating the monopolies though are to break them up. I'm old enough to remember the AT&T/Bell breakups. This is absolutely the opposite of what the GOP usually does. So, it will be interesting to see what comes of this.

I predict a lot of foot-dragging in the agencies responsible as people wait out the end of the Trump administration.

ON EDIT: I said they were monopolistic, not monopolies. There is a difference. Also, when FB has almost as many members as the next two largest combined by number of members they have an outsize ability to influence.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
9. You are never forced to use any of those social media or search engines. There is no monopoly when
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 12:44 PM
Sep 2018

you have alternate choices of which there are many.

They may be the most popular but they are not monopolies.

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
15. They are not monopolies
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 03:01 PM
Sep 2018

There are alternatives, and no one is forced to use social media. My father uses none of it, and I also tease him because he prefers Yahoo to Google or Bing.

There are some issues with all social media platforms, but this isn't one of them.

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
20. Try StartPage [com]..
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 07:49 PM
Sep 2018

They proxy the evil google snooping.

For the layman, google only sees startpage not you.

jgmiller

(395 posts)
7. There is a difference between dominant and monopolistic
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 12:30 PM
Sep 2018

Google and FB are dominant because WE made them so, Google because their technology is so good and FB because of the social media craze, I would never say their tech is that great. The behavior of a monopoly is to block competition in an illegal manner, there are plenty of other search engines people can and do use, but they provide less satisfying results. There are other social networks that people can and do use but for some reason people love FB. Now I admit FB did do something that could be considered monopolistic behavior by buying Instagram and Whats App but at the same time there is nothing stopping someone else from creating a Facebook killer. There is plenty of VC money around to do that so this is not a barrier to entry.

JohnnyRingo

(18,650 posts)
8. Let Rupert Murdoch start his own search engine.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 12:41 PM
Sep 2018

Nothing's stopping him from routing searches through Fox News headlines if that's really what people want. In this virtual world everybody gets to choose their own reality anyway. They already have the ridiculous Conservapedia: https://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

While he's at it, he can initiate a social media platform called TrumpBook if anyone thinks there's money in it. Obviously there isn't.

dalton99a

(81,599 posts)
13. While they're at it, order Twitter and YouTube to restore the InfoWars account
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 01:19 PM
Sep 2018

Don't forget all the neo-Nazis and Russian bots

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
17. "The document doesn't name any companies" - confusing much?
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 03:23 PM
Sep 2018

You can't fool some people at all, any time.

GOP and Anti-trust? A bit of a stretch.

But a packed radical right Supreme Court could be warranted cause for pause on too many levels.

I suspect a lot of PNAC fascist fantasies sitting in dusty DC GOP corners are being converted into Executive Orders that will soon fly through and end up being hand-picked by Justice Roberts in a rush to Scotus' Docket.

Infowars vs Google, Youtube, Twitter - Free speech denied

or something similarly looney.

Check out SCOTUS Docket for 2018.

GoCubsGo

(32,095 posts)
18. I can't wait to see the bill for this nonsense.
Sat Sep 22, 2018, 04:04 PM
Sep 2018

How many tens of millions of our tax dollars is this going to waste? That's the Party of Fiscal Responsibility for you. Always pissing away money on bullshit.

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