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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 07:54 AM Sep 2018

Kavanaugh Accuser Faced Own Misconduct Charges

Source: PoliticalWire



September 29, 2018 at 11:05 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 94 Comments

“Julie Swetnick, one of the women accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct, faced allegations of her own misconduct during a short stint at a Portland tech company 18 years ago,” the Oregonian reports.

LIn the suit, Webtrends alleged Swetnick claimed to have graduated from Johns Hopkins University but the company said it subsequently learned the school had no record of her attendance.”

“The suit also alleges Swetnick ‘engaged in unwelcome, sexually offensive conduct’ while at Webtrends and ‘made false and retaliatory allegations that other co-workers had engaged in inappropriate conduct toward her.’”

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Read more: https://politicalwire.com/2018/09/29/kavanaugh-accuser-faced-own-miscondcut-charges/




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Kavanaugh Accuser Faced Own Misconduct Charges (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2018 OP
Why the victim shaming? Even if true - which is doubtful - are you saying... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #1
She never claimed that Kavanaugh or Judge gang raped her, john657 Sep 2018 #18
Okay, true.. but she accused KKKavanaugh & Judge of arranging "rape trains" InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #20
I never said it excused the rape, all I did was correct your wrong john657 Sep 2018 #21
Oh okay, gotcha... just wanted to hammer home the point that it shouldn't matter... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2018 #37
That's why they were so complacent. Squinch Sep 2018 #2
Finding this hard to believe. n/t rzemanfl Sep 2018 #3
From the source- rzemanfl Sep 2018 #4
Thanks for the info, rz. rec, Nt Mc Mike Sep 2018 #23
Spam deleted by MIR Team TahitiBlue Sep 2018 #27
Not quite accurate there uppityperson Sep 2018 #29
Spam deleted by MIR Team TahitiBlue Sep 2018 #30
Oh. Here's the link I copy pasted from. This definition is widespread. uppityperson Sep 2018 #31
You know if a "company" doesn't like you...................they do go after you, and if someone turbinetree Sep 2018 #5
There is a lot of bullshit around this morning about this woman. rzemanfl Sep 2018 #6
+1 dalton99a Sep 2018 #17
He's also LOST in court. And lost a ton of money because of it. 7962 Sep 2018 #22
Lawyers lose sometimes. rzemanfl Sep 2018 #24
I'm sticking with my prediction on the defamation suit though. Still think it gets tossed. 7962 Sep 2018 #26
Not inclined to argue with you on that. rzemanfl Sep 2018 #28
Oh I'm sure he does. I guess we should know in a month or so maybe? 7962 Sep 2018 #32
Well, getting Drumpf to give up on everything else was probably a pipe dream too. rzemanfl Sep 2018 #33
if this happened, would she have gotten all the clearances? blueniteflower Sep 2018 #7
Clearances for what? LisaL Sep 2018 #10
She worked for the federal govt and had at least secret clearance. DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #13
Thinking the same thing.... Bayard Sep 2018 #15
Too bad we didn't have cell phones back then. Duppers Sep 2018 #19
This was regarding the false Rhode Island boat rape/beating incident. Earth Bound Misfit Sep 2018 #25
Julie Swetnick is not qualified to be on the Supreme Court, and neither is Kavanaugh louis c Sep 2018 #8
I don't think anybody is questioning whether she is qualified to be on a Supreme Court. LisaL Sep 2018 #12
Anything she has done in the past has no relevance on the accusations louis c Sep 2018 #14
You don't think you credibility would be affected by whatever things you have done? LisaL Sep 2018 #16
Only in a criminal trial, not as a witness in another person's job interview. louis c Sep 2018 #34
So even if you are not believable/credible, that should prevent Mr. Smith from LisaL Sep 2018 #35
No. But his background should be thouroughly investigated in order to be a police officer... louis c Sep 2018 #36
Ergo, Kavanaugh gets to exact political revenge from the supreme court? PSPS Sep 2018 #9
Webtrends has a pretty shitty rating on Glassdoor. Calista241 Sep 2018 #11
Then let's not put her on the Supreme Court either. JohnnyRingo Oct 2018 #38

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
1. Why the victim shaming? Even if true - which is doubtful - are you saying...
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:02 AM
Sep 2018

a woman who was gang-raped by Judge KKKavanaugh and friends, was, suddenly, no longer gang-raped the moment she committed a wrongful act in the future? Or, that the gang-rape should no longer matter? That's ridiculous!

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
18. She never claimed that Kavanaugh or Judge gang raped her,
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 12:31 PM
Sep 2018

she claims that they were there when it happened

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
20. Okay, true.. but she accused KKKavanaugh & Judge of arranging "rape trains"
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 12:52 PM
Sep 2018

and, yes, being there when she was raped, so they were aiding and abetting. Okay, so what? That does not justify victim shaming! My point still stands... the fact that she was accused of wrongdoing sometime later as an adult, whether true or not, does not erase the rape lines she saw and her identification of KKKavanaugh as the serial rapist who arranged the assaults of other women, including herself.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
37. Oh okay, gotcha... just wanted to hammer home the point that it shouldn't matter...
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 05:44 PM
Sep 2018

I agree with you then & glad you agree with my main premise.

Now, let's all get busy unleashing as much hell and fury to assure ourselves that gang-rapist KKKavanaugh gets nowhere near a seat on the Supreme Court. Indeed, once the Democrats take over the House and Senate in the next session of Congress after the 2018 election, the first order of business should be to impeach him and the Sexual-Abuser-in-Chief who nominated him.

Squinch

(50,957 posts)
2. That's why they were so complacent.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:02 AM
Sep 2018

Looks like there is more to it though. Avenatti is saying it was bogus and a suit brought in retaliation against her when she complained about harassment.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
4. From the source-
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:08 AM
Sep 2018

"This lawsuit never had any merit as evidenced by how quickly it was dismissed," Avenatti wrote. "It was originally filed in retaliation for my client making claims against the company."

Please consider editing the OP.

Response to rzemanfl (Reply #4)

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
29. Not quite accurate there
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 03:05 PM
Sep 2018

"A dismissal with prejudice is dismissal of a case on merits after adjudication.The plaintiff is barred from bringing an action on the same claim."

Response to uppityperson (Reply #29)

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
31. Oh. Here's the link I copy pasted from. This definition is widespread.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 03:58 PM
Sep 2018
https://definitions.uslegal.com/d/dismissed-with-prejudice/

And so what if she settled a case? What's your logic in it undermining her believability?

turbinetree

(24,709 posts)
5. You know if a "company" doesn't like you...................they do go after you, and if someone
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:09 AM
Sep 2018

field representative says something to just get rid you you, who has more sway, when you brought into the office......the cards are already stacked against the person..............and according to this newspaper:


"The suit also alleges Swetnick "engaged in unwelcome, sexually offensive conduct" while at Webtrends and "made false and retaliatory allegations that other co-workers had engaged in inappropriate conduct toward her."

The suit alleges Swetnick "engaged in unwelcome sexual innuendo and inappropriate conduct" directed at two male employees during a business lunch, with Webtrends customers present. Swetnick claimed two other employees had sexually harassed her, according to the suit.

Webtrends' suit said it determined Swetnick had engaged in misconduct but could not find evidence to support her allegations against her colleagues. Later, the company alleged, Swetnick took medical leave and simultaneously claimed unemployment benefits in the District of Columbia.

In the suit, Webtrends alleged Swetnick threatened legal action against the company over her own harassment claims. The lawsuit claimed that act defamed the business and sought at least $150,000 on behalf of an employee that Swetnick had allegedly made false statements about.


In my opinion I do not think she would have said anything in front of business clients at a table.................that makes no sense..........................

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
22. He's also LOST in court. And lost a ton of money because of it.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 01:38 PM
Sep 2018

He's a worm. Out for his own glory, IMO. But the kind of guy you need going up against a Trump type.
I just think this lady picking HIM in this case was a terrible mistake.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
26. I'm sticking with my prediction on the defamation suit though. Still think it gets tossed.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 02:18 PM
Sep 2018

Just not gonna get a case to move forward based on insulting a public figure. IMO of course.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
32. Oh I'm sure he does. I guess we should know in a month or so maybe?
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:09 PM
Sep 2018

Avenatti is NOT gonna get trump in a deposition though. Its just a pipe dream.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
33. Well, getting Drumpf to give up on everything else was probably a pipe dream too.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:30 PM
Sep 2018

This, I think, goes a pipe too far.

blueniteflower

(38 posts)
7. if this happened, would she have gotten all the clearances?
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 08:19 AM
Sep 2018

This suit would have been discovered while she was applying for clearance. I would assume an investigator came to question the veracity of it and found them unsubstantiated. Otherwise, she would not have gotten clearance

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
13. She worked for the federal govt and had at least secret clearance.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 11:26 AM
Sep 2018

She may also have had top secret clearance, but I can't recall.

Bayard

(22,112 posts)
15. Thinking the same thing....
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 12:09 PM
Sep 2018

"Senate panel refers "apparent false statements" about Kavanaugh for criminal investigation", (Thank you, Duppers!)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brett-kavanaugh-senate-judiciary-committee-refers-apparent-false-statements-to-justice-department-today-2018-09-29/

So in other words, discourage any other women from coming forward.

Many years ago, I went to higher up's at the company where I worked to tell them my manager was not harassing me, but I had observed him trying to kiss an unwilling female employee in the hallway. Besides, he was padding his expense accounts, and putting in for hours that he was playing golf. I knew because I had to file the reports.
I was fired, and the company tried to keep me from getting unemployment.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
19. Too bad we didn't have cell phones back then.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 12:40 PM
Sep 2018

You could've had more proof for a lawsuit. It is awful how the good old boy Network sticks together.


LisaL

(44,974 posts)
12. I don't think anybody is questioning whether she is qualified to be on a Supreme Court.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:17 AM
Sep 2018

I think the question is if her allegations could be plausible.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
14. Anything she has done in the past has no relevance on the accusations
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 11:32 AM
Sep 2018

As an analogy, if I committed a crime in the past but also witnessed an unrelated one, I'm still a witness.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
34. Only in a criminal trial, not as a witness in another person's job interview.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 04:48 PM
Sep 2018

Example: I don't think you should hire Mr. Smith as a police officer. He used to sell drugs. I know, because I sold drugs with him more than 7 years ago.

Not a criminal violation (statute of limitations), but certainly a disqualifier for being a police officer.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
35. So even if you are not believable/credible, that should prevent Mr. Smith from
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 05:02 PM
Sep 2018

ever getting a job? Mr. Smith should be unemployed from now on?

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
36. No. But his background should be thouroughly investigated in order to be a police officer...
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 05:33 PM
Sep 2018

...after such a credible accusation by a named source who provides dates and witnesses.

Or do you think a criminal drug dealer is OK being a cop?

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
11. Webtrends has a pretty shitty rating on Glassdoor.
Sun Sep 30, 2018, 10:04 AM
Sep 2018

and they were acquired by Oracle in 2017, so I'm sure it's gone even further downhill since then.

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