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sandensea

(21,636 posts)
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:09 AM Oct 2018

More than 120 missing children found in Michigan human trafficking sting

Source: Houston Chronicle

More than 120 children were recovered in Detroit as part of an initiative to find victims of sex trafficking, according to officials.

The U.S. Marshals Service found 123 children on Sept. 26 out of the total 301 cases they were investigating.

All the children who were recovered were interviewed by authorities. Investigators said at least three of the children showed signs that they were victims of sex trafficking or sexually victimized.

The sweep took place over the course of one day in Wayne County, Michigan.

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/article/More-than-120-missing-children-found-in-Michigan-13293242.php

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More than 120 missing children found in Michigan human trafficking sting (Original Post) sandensea Oct 2018 OP
Man! That's horrible! C Moon Oct 2018 #1
It wouldn't surprise if some of the kids Cheeto's prying from their parents are ending up this way sandensea Oct 2018 #2
Please, I beg you, remove that horrid picture OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #5
Done. sandensea Oct 2018 #6
Thank you!☺️ I avoid that image as much as possible. OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #7
That's what I said 2naSalit Oct 2018 #10
+1 sandensea Oct 2018 #13
Probably...nt 2naSalit Oct 2018 #14
Here is the official US Martial Report link OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #4
"THIS IS WHAT LESS GOVERNMENT LOOKS LIKE." C Moon Oct 2018 #9
+1 riversedge Oct 2018 #40
4000 Missing Persons in Michigan. It's epidemic! OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #11
Do you want to know what's wrong with people? They can't read jberryhill Oct 2018 #21
I see you truncated the press release. And you accuse us of not reading. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #26
The story seems to be exaggerated jberryhill Oct 2018 #31
I think it is heroic to rescue 123 kids from the streets, or at least locate them. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #32
123 missing kids were not rescued from the streets jberryhill Oct 2018 #36
123 missing kids were located. It was not just "file management." SunSeeker Oct 2018 #37
OMG. Cannot imagine the trauma for these kids. AllyCat Oct 2018 #3
Horrifying. Those poor kids. They will need a lot of help now. Hope they get it. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #8
Yes, there are so many affordable counseling services for everyone. OhNo-Really Oct 2018 #12
Yes, all 120 who were not missing and said nothing about sex trafficking jberryhill Oct 2018 #22
Wrong. See my response to your post above. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #27
I read it as they were reported as missing, but didn't appear to be missing against their will xor Oct 2018 #38
When deplorables are in charge, not even kids are safe. nt elmac Oct 2018 #15
Completely misleading. Or, at the very least, lacking real details. woundedkarma Oct 2018 #16
Hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good scandalous headline.... LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #19
Headlines, by their nature and format, lack details. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #24
In this story it requires going even further than just reading the story xor Oct 2018 #39
Who said they were all "held together by a human trafficking ring"? SunSeeker Oct 2018 #29
BIZARRE STORY ROB-ROX Oct 2018 #41
I'm trying to figure this out with such scanty info. Chemisse Oct 2018 #17
They weren't even rounded up or brought home.... jberryhill Oct 2018 #18
This Is How Sex-Trafficking Panic Gets Made: Reason Roundup mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2018 #20
And they call it a "sting" as if there was some operation to catch sex traffickers jberryhill Oct 2018 #23
What a load of bullshit this whole "rescue" was. Chemisse Oct 2018 #25
This is weird. This was a one day effort. They took the files in the morning and had found Squinch Oct 2018 #28
Same deal that allows thousands of rape kits to go untested. SunSeeker Oct 2018 #30
Not quite. Igel Oct 2018 #33
So maybe they should spend another day and a half and clear the whole thing up. Squinch Oct 2018 #34
Headline is confusing. 3 of 123 might have been trafficked. Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #35

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
2. It wouldn't surprise if some of the kids Cheeto's prying from their parents are ending up this way
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:17 AM
Oct 2018

Nor would it surprise me if he and/or some of his associates are profiting from it somehow.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
10. That's what I said
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:12 AM
Oct 2018

over a month ago. I bet that's some of the "dirt" that is being so strongly protected.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
13. +1
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:14 AM
Oct 2018

That must be part of Putin's Kompromat stash against this president.

The other part no doubt has something to do with Ivanka, and that Electra complex of hers.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
4. Here is the official US Martial Report link
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:52 AM
Oct 2018
https://www.usmarshals.gov/news/chron/2018/100318.htm

So in reality our children ar not safe. Shot in schools and stolen.

THIS IS WHAT LESS GOVERNMENT LOOKS LIKE. Happy with those low taxes? Holy hell. what is wrong with people!
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
21. Do you want to know what's wrong with people? They can't read
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:29 PM
Oct 2018

Did you actually read the information at the link you posted? None of them were missing.

All 123 children were physically located and interviewed -- standard protocol for the Michigan State Police. All of the children located were interviewed about potentially being sexually victimized or used in a sex trafficking ring during their period of time that they were deemed missing. Three cases were identified as being possible sex trafficking cases, and one homeless teen was transported back to the command post after it was discovered that he had not had anything to eat in three days.

This was an exercise in updating files.

This notion that a cache of 123 trafficked children was found and, tellingly, no one arrested, is utter nonsense which people are prone to believe and get hysterical over.

This is how shit like Pizzagate or "Satanic Panic" gets going.

SunSeeker

(51,567 posts)
26. I see you truncated the press release. And you accuse us of not reading.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:03 PM
Oct 2018

Out of 301 files of missing children, 123 were identified and recovered safely during the operation. All 123 children were physically located and interviewed -- standard protocol for the Michigan State Police. All of the children located were interviewed about potentially being sexually victimized or used in a sex trafficking ring during their period of time that they were deemed missing. Three cases were identified as being possible sex trafficking cases, and one homeless teen was transported back to the command post after it was discovered that he had not had anything to eat in three days. He was then debriefed and turned over to Child Protective Services for aftercare.



So obviously all 123 were listed (officially, in files) as missing kids. Most kids don't admit they were used as prostitutes. Three here apparently did admit to it, which is a lot. One kid is a lot. Sorry the story wasn't gruesome enough for you.






 
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
31. The story seems to be exaggerated
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oct 2018

And it may be exaggerated in part due to the way that the information was provided in a press release by the Michigan State Police. Police agencies, while certainly necessary to public order, do have political and public relations interests.

What appears to have mainly happened here is an administrative housecleaning of files which were not properly closed.

It's really not a matter of the story not being "gruesome enough" for me. It is that someone apparently has tried very hard, and succeeded, in making the work of the Michigan State Police in closing these files, out to be something quite a bit more heroic than is reasonably supported by the facts.

I just wonder why that might be.

And as for the the three who "admitted to it", that would also seem to go beyond the facts actually stated in the piece.

SunSeeker

(51,567 posts)
32. I think it is heroic to rescue 123 kids from the streets, or at least locate them.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:26 PM
Oct 2018

Like I said, I hope they find the help they need.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
36. 123 missing kids were not rescued from the streets
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 07:07 PM
Oct 2018

That’s the point. That’s not what happened. Most of them were where they were supposed to be. This was primarily a file management issue, not a missing kid issue.

SunSeeker

(51,567 posts)
37. 123 missing kids were located. It was not just "file management."
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 07:12 PM
Oct 2018

It sure as fuck wasn't just file management to the kid who hadn't eaten in three days, or the 3 kids who said stuff in their interviews suggesting they were trafficked.


But hey, you can poo poo this all you want. You are obviously sure of your reasons.

AllyCat

(16,189 posts)
3. OMG. Cannot imagine the trauma for these kids.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:18 AM
Oct 2018

I hope they are reunited with loving family or friends and are able to get help. I hope the people responsible rot in jail.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
22. Yes, all 120 who were not missing and said nothing about sex trafficking
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:31 PM
Oct 2018

How traumatic for them to be located, interviewed, and have nothing wrong.

This has got to be the most misleading headline of the year.

xor

(1,204 posts)
38. I read it as they were reported as missing, but didn't appear to be missing against their will
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:24 PM
Oct 2018

or trafficked. I interpreted that as meaning they were runaways or something along those lines.

The headline is incredibly misleading, though


*edit* Oh, I see it wasn't even that. They just didn't update their record. This is gonna be some great fodder for the "pizzagate" crowd.

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
16. Completely misleading. Or, at the very least, lacking real details.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:17 AM
Oct 2018

This wasn't 123 children recovered from human trafficking.

This was 123 children someone reported missing. Three of the children showed signs of sex trafficking/sex victimization.

They don't give details on what was going on.

The other 120 could be 17 years old and fleeing from bad home situations and staying at a friend's house. There's no real details.

"Participating officers were given the case files and began investigating their whereabouts by visiting last known addresses, friend’s homes and schools in hopes of finding them in a safe place."

Then... "123 were identified and recovered safely during the operation. All 123 children were physically located and interviewed"

So... these weren't 123 children all held together by a human trafficking ring. They were 123 separate people who were located, interviewed and not actually reunited with family or anything like that. If they were young kids then they would have said they were reunited or something.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. Headlines, by their nature and format, lack details.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:44 PM
Oct 2018

I thought it was common knowledge since 1880 that headlines rarely, if ever, allow the entire story... or even particulars of it.

Maybe not.

Well, now you know. So there's that.

xor

(1,204 posts)
39. In this story it requires going even further than just reading the story
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:26 PM
Oct 2018

To get the actual details it required reading the actual report located elsewhere. Although, in their credit they did at least link to it in the story.

SunSeeker

(51,567 posts)
29. Who said they were all "held together by a human trafficking ring"?
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:14 PM
Oct 2018

What is evident is they were all runaways or reported missing. And at least three indicated in interviews they may have been involved in sex trafficking. They were all listed in missing children files.

These kids definitely need help, either as sex trafficking victims or as runaways who may be fleeing abuse, or suffering substance addiction. One kid said he hadn't eaten in 3 days.


Sorry the story did not have enough gory facts for you.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
41. BIZARRE STORY
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:49 AM
Oct 2018

The missing information does not make this story true. Where were these people found, where were they from, and the ages. This story has missing facts which needed to be told. I think many of the people were run always who attended school and were not truly MISSING. Good story, but fake news because of the missing information........

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
17. I'm trying to figure this out with such scanty info.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:21 AM
Oct 2018

At first it seemed to me that they were all found together in one place, being held by sex traffickers.

But reading between the lines, it seems like they are kids who have left home and are living out on the streets or in various places and a scant few are being sexually victimized.

This doesn't sound like a new phenomena, just a new technique of rounding them up and bringing them in.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. They weren't even rounded up or brought home....
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 08:22 AM
Oct 2018


"All 123 children were physically located and interviewed"

This story is being sold as something it isn't. It sounds like they closed a bunch of files by finding out where various teenagers had gotten off to.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,482 posts)
20. This Is How Sex-Trafficking Panic Gets Made: Reason Roundup
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:22 AM
Oct 2018

Some DUers get upset when I link to articles in Reason. If they don't like it, maybe they should change the channel.

Here's another post for them to alert on.

VeryHiddenGeniusHat Retweeted:

Holy fuck. Update!: all but 4 of the "123 missing children" found in this "sex trafficking operation" WERE NOT ACTUALLY MISSING. Cops just hadn't updated their databases



This Is How Sex-Trafficking Panic Gets Made: Reason Roundup

Plus: fight against FOSTA continues and Tennessee trooper reports Democrat for visiting falafel restaurant.

Elizabeth Nolan Brown|Oct. 10, 2018 9:30 am

Another "human trafficking operation" that wasn't. One hundred and twenty-three missing Michigan minors were found during a one-day "sex trafficking operation," the New York Post reported yesterday. Similar statements showed up in other news headlines across national and international news. What the associated articles fail to mention for multiple paragraphs is that only three of the minors are even suspected of having been involved in prostitution.

Officials said the operation—a joint effort of the U.S. Marshals Service, the FBI, Michigan State Police, and multiple local Michigan police departments—identified three "possible sex-trafficking cases" among the 123 minors that were located on September 26, according to a press release.

What's more, all but four of the "missing children" were not actually missing. In the remaining cases, minors were listed in a police database as missing but had since been found or returned home on their own. "Many were (homeschooled)," Lt. Michael Shaw told The Detroit News. "Some were runaways as well."

The one-day "rescue" sweep was a long-time in the making, with police beforehand "investigating their whereabouts by visiting last known addresses, friend's homes and schools." ... Nothing in the U.S. Marshals report on the operation makes mention of any arrested kidnappers, "traffickers," or other adults involved in endangering or exploiting any of the missing minors that were identified. Which makes sense—very few missing children are actually abducted. And when runaway teens do engage in sex for money, the vast majority do not have "pimps."

mahatmakanejeeves
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. And they call it a "sting" as if there was some operation to catch sex traffickers
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:32 PM
Oct 2018

What a load of shit this story is.

Squinch

(50,954 posts)
28. This is weird. This was a one day effort. They took the files in the morning and had found
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:11 PM
Oct 2018

and interviewed all the kids by the afternoon.

I am glad they found the homeless kid who hadn't eaten and the three kids who were being trafficked.

But if this can be done in the course of a work day, why the hell wasn't it done before this?

What the hell is the deal with this?

Igel

(35,317 posts)
33. Not quite.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:32 PM
Oct 2018

They started with 300 or so, and found 120+ in one day. We don't know anything about the remaining 180.

Squinch

(50,954 posts)
34. So maybe they should spend another day and a half and clear the whole thing up.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:34 PM
Oct 2018

I know that's not literal, but really! If almost half were this easily found, what is going on here? Three of those children were being trafficked and one hadn't eaten in three days. Imagine what they could have been spared if this had been done before!

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
35. Headline is confusing. 3 of 123 might have been trafficked.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:34 PM
Oct 2018

And, yes, that alone is awful.

But this is the kind of misinformation we will be dealing with in the days leading up to the election.

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