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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:18 AM Oct 2018

Conway: Blue wave forecasts coming from 'same geniuses' who predicted Clinton win

Source: Politico




By MATTHEW CHOI 10/10/2018 08:43 AM EDT

Widespread predictions of a “blue wave” of Democratic victories in next month’s midterm elections should be taken with a hefty grain of salt, counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway warned Wednesday morning, because they emanate from the “same geniuses” who all but guaranteed a landslide win for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

"Let's not forget the same geniuses that predicted a huge romp by that woman who lost in 2016 are the same people predicting a huge win by the Democrats this time," Conway told Fox News’s “Fox & Friends.” "So we have to be a little bit cautious."

Conway's comments come with less than a month to go before November’s midterm elections, in which Republicans will seek to defend their majorities in both houses of Congress. Spurred by President Donald Trump’s low approval ratings and a surge in enthusiasm among Democratic voters, pundits across the political landscape have widely forecasted Democratic gains on Election Day.

A total of 68 Republican-held House seats are currently in jeopardy of flipping parties, according to a POLITICO analysis, rated “lean Republican” or worse for the GOP. There are 209 House seats either firmly or leaning Democratic, that same analysis showed, just nine seats short of the 218 needed to claim the majority.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/conway-doubts-democratic-takeover-887247

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Conway: Blue wave forecasts coming from 'same geniuses' who predicted Clinton win (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
"that woman?" "THAT WOMAN" You evil spawn of a turd. CurtEastPoint Oct 2018 #1
Polls arent always right, but they're right FAR more often than they're wrong. 7962 Oct 2018 #2
Hillary did win. The Repubs don't have the electoral college to save them in the midterms. Bfd Oct 2018 #3
Hillary DID in fact win by almost 3% nationwide - close to what most polls predicted. sandensea Oct 2018 #4
Exactly DeminPennswoods Oct 2018 #25
She is of course absolutely correct... Republicans don't need to worry about retaining the house or getagrip_already Oct 2018 #5
That's the way to play it hurple Oct 2018 #21
Hey Vanilla Queen.................what do you know that we don't know...........RUSSIA at it again turbinetree Oct 2018 #6
In other words the fix is in again? n/t hibbing Oct 2018 #7
Sounds like they have fixed the races again. AllyCat Oct 2018 #8
Rub her nose in her shit or she'll just keep doing this. truthisfreedom Oct 2018 #9
No One Knew The FBI Was Going To Sabotage Hillary KellyAnne PaulX2 Oct 2018 #10
So share with us what the Russians are saying. nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2018 #11
Crazy thing is Kellyanne The Liberal Lion Oct 2018 #12
Is that Putin told you, Kelly? muntrv Oct 2018 #13
The geniuses were right DFW Oct 2018 #14
And There Is No Electoral College. . . ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #18
If that's the case then why don't we control the house now? n/t hughee99 Oct 2018 #24
Gerrymandering ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #29
So when you said "it's get enough votes or go home", that's not really accurate. n/t hughee99 Oct 2018 #31
No It's Not ProfessorGAC Oct 2018 #32
I'm not spinning at all. You seemed to be saying that THIS midterm election would be an accurate hughee99 Oct 2018 #34
The national polls weren't off by much in 2016. David__77 Oct 2018 #15
Hillary Clinton got 3 million more votes than Shitler did workinclasszero Oct 2018 #16
She has a point so you better vote. Tiggeroshii Oct 2018 #17
"Red Wave" forecast comes from the same fix-is-in bunch Zambero Oct 2018 #19
Shhhhhhhhh.... hurple Oct 2018 #20
Clinton did win. Putin stole the Electoral College. But Hillary won the vote. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #22
The "polls" didn't count in the fucking russians stealing Cha Oct 2018 #23
Depends BigZit Oct 2018 #26
Hey came to say hi just because you were listed as new and I like your name. demgrrrll Oct 2018 #30
Republican voters, listen to Conway and STAY HOME. Nothing to worry about! BeckyDem Oct 2018 #27
This is the 3rd post I've opened, where my only response started with "F" janterry Oct 2018 #28
Consider, Sudsy Oct 2018 #33
There is no way for the federal government to reject election results. MineralMan Oct 2018 #37
I would have agreed Sudsy Oct 2018 #43
Does that Delphinus Oct 2018 #35
why is this in LBN? KayF Oct 2018 #36
Good question RandiFan1290 Oct 2018 #38
Someone should remind her that the Trump campaign did not inform those same "geniuses" that cstanleytech Oct 2018 #39
Kellyanne Conway is pretty arrogant considering they only won by 80K votes... SKKY Oct 2018 #40
Check the vote count Skelator,Clinton DID win.......... Bengus81 Oct 2018 #41
If Democrats Vote erpowers Oct 2018 #42
This is bc CONWAY knows the Russians will get away with the same tricks Baltimike Oct 2018 #44
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
2. Polls arent always right, but they're right FAR more often than they're wrong.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:22 AM
Oct 2018

I guess kellyAnn will just have to wait and see if its "fake news"

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
3. Hillary did win. The Repubs don't have the electoral college to save them in the midterms.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:25 AM
Oct 2018


You seem worried Kellyanne, bye.

sandensea

(21,636 posts)
4. Hillary DID in fact win by almost 3% nationwide - close to what most polls predicted.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:36 AM
Oct 2018

The problem, of course, is that Putin flipped just enough votes in htree or four states to install the Rotten Orange.

getagrip_already

(14,757 posts)
5. She is of course absolutely correct... Republicans don't need to worry about retaining the house or
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:40 AM
Oct 2018

Senate.

They don't need to get out and vote if it's too much trouble. They can vote for a write in if they want. It doesn't matter. They have it in the bag.

If your are a republican voter and trump supporter, get yourself a triple super burger and some freedom fried with a 48 oz sugar drink, go fire off $50 of ammo at some log, drink some beer and abuse your family. Make a night of it. Don't worry about voting. Trump's got this.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
6. Hey Vanilla Queen.................what do you know that we don't know...........RUSSIA at it again
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 09:41 AM
Oct 2018

I do know one thing YOUR A FUCKING TRAITOR, no if's, and's, or but's, about it..................your a FUCKING TRAITOR, and being given "air time" from the media is outrageous.

Must be nice to go to sleep every night just, knowing that a country that gave you everything that you wanted, you turn right around and fuck the CONSTITUTION, the RULE of LAW, the Environment, Education and it's citizens, fucking psychopath.

Your as sick as the m****r fucker that has defrauded the taxpayers just in New York alone out of over 400 Million dollars in his and his fucking mafia crime family, and you know what TRAITOR, the taxpayers in the NY had to make up the difference.......................
Now were going to see what else he has been defrauding in other states, with this fucking CRIME of fraud, because he is a fucking fraud, and how the other state citizens had to pay for him defrauding the tax base,and I wonder what he is doing on the international level..................... fucking VANILLA QUEEN.

You going down lady, and I can't wait for your ass to be dragged into a hearing to do some explaining, and lose your law license for starters.......................and then when you perjure yourself you go to jail....................every time you speak, I keep seeing the wicked witch of the west..........................



November 2018 cannot get here fast enough.........................vote

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?p0=263&iso=20181106T12&msg=2018%20Midterm%20Elections

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
10. No One Knew The FBI Was Going To Sabotage Hillary KellyAnne
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:05 AM
Oct 2018

All bets are off.

Anyone voting Republican should be put in a cage.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
12. Crazy thing is Kellyanne
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:12 AM
Oct 2018

Hillary did win. No not just the popular vote. She won the whole thing. We all know Kellyanne the only reason your orange turd of a boss is sitting his fat ass illegally in the White House is because Putin altered vote totals. Keep talking your shit lady, the gallows accepts females too.

DFW

(54,397 posts)
14. The geniuses were right
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:23 AM
Oct 2018

Manipulation of 80,000 votes spread out over 3 states doesn't change that. Besides, manipulation of 200 or so congressional races involves a little more work, although the "Internet Research Agency" has had two years to prepare.

Yes, we expect a few disappointing "surprise Republican upset victories" again this time, but this time we know to dig for the real cause of each one of them, and we know by now, it wasn't that "the polls were way off."

I just hope that the new Congress enacts a law requiring a mandatory minimum 15 years for electoral manipulation, and that a few perps get to serve out those sentences. The Republicans are the "Law And Order" party, right? Surely they wouldn't object to a new law requiring harsh sentences for interference with one of America's most sacred institutions, would they? Uh-oh, when they find out that what was meant by "one of America's most sacred institutions" was NOT a religious sect, they might not like the idea so much.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
18. And There Is No Electoral College. . .
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 11:59 AM
Oct 2018

. . .to manipulate when it comes to the legislators. It's get enough votes, or go home.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
29. Gerrymandering
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:38 PM
Oct 2018

I know you've heard of it. And, we had people who would clearly tend to vote D, but were too lazy to get out to vote, or they got suppressed.

I'm sure you know that the dems in the House accumulated far more total votes than the R's despite the majority of the seated reps.

ProfessorGAC

(65,057 posts)
32. No It's Not
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:13 PM
Oct 2018

They didn't get enough votes. There is no EC. You get more votes you won. The R's cheated to GET MORE VOTES!

Adam Kinzinger (my rep and professional liar) got more votes than his opponent. He's my rep. He didn't get it by an EC that gave 100% of the electoral votes to someone who actually got less but won the right precincts.

You're spinning in your own circle, Hughee.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
34. I'm not spinning at all. You seemed to be saying that THIS midterm election would be an accurate
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 04:43 PM
Oct 2018

representation of the will of the people because there's no Electoral college... but backtracked on that when I asked why we didn't control the house (yes, you're right, I already knew why).

I guess we'll know soon (though not til 2020) as the Senate is not affected by either the EC or gerrymandering.

David__77

(23,418 posts)
15. The national polls weren't off by much in 2016.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:26 AM
Oct 2018

If the same holds now, there will be big Republican losses.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
16. Hillary Clinton got 3 million more votes than Shitler did
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 10:30 AM
Oct 2018

It was the ****ing electoral college that put Trump666 in office!

So the "geniuses" were RIGHT..*****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BLUE WAVE INCOMING GOP TRAITORS AND PERVERTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
19. "Red Wave" forecast comes from the same fix-is-in bunch
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 12:26 PM
Oct 2018

who enabled a foreign adversary to sway said 2016 election. A "surplus" of progressive votes will be needed to offset this next round of corruption and skullduggery, not to mention strategic voter purging. And HEY Kellyanner, it doesn't take a genius. Just honest elections and reasonable unobstructed access for all eligible voters.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
20. Shhhhhhhhh....
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:05 PM
Oct 2018

Let them keep thinking this. Let them keep believing a blue wave is just fake news. If they think it's real, it might fire them up to go vote.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
23. The "polls" didn't count in the fucking russians stealing
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 01:48 PM
Oct 2018

it for the fucking ugly monster, sewer Rat Barbie.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
28. This is the 3rd post I've opened, where my only response started with "F"
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 02:08 PM
Oct 2018

Idiot. Idiots. "F" them.

Sudsy

(58 posts)
33. Consider,
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 04:41 PM
Oct 2018

were the Republicans to lose the House and the Senate but came up some BS reason, like Chinese hacking, to reject the results of a Democratic takeover, who could make them accept the results?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
37. There is no way for the federal government to reject election results.
Thu Oct 11, 2018, 09:48 AM
Oct 2018

No way at all. This has come up before. Elections are strictly a state issue, and within each state a county issue. The federal government has nothing to do with actual elections. Keep that in mind.

Even the Presidential election is 50 separate state elections to select electors for the Electoral College. The Constitution made elections a state matter.

Sudsy

(58 posts)
43. I would have agreed
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 04:27 PM
Oct 2018

until the Kavanaugh confirmation. Were the Court to overturn Powell v. McCormack by returning Article 1, Section 5 of the Constitution to its pre-1969 interpretation, a congressional majority could most certainly refuse to seat new members legally elected by the states, not that I believe it is likely, but all the pieces are in play to make it possible, and I am coming to believe the Republican Party will do anything to maintain power.

KayF

(1,345 posts)
36. why is this in LBN?
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 04:49 PM
Oct 2018

it's a quote from Kelly Ann Conway, on Fox and Friends. It's a bad decision by Politico to make this a news story and it's a bad decision to post it in LBN.

Just to illustrate, look at this other story, which has reporting, with numbers, about people registering to vote, which was locked as being "opinion and analysis"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142175171


So that's not news, but a liar yapping on the propaganda channel is news?

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
39. Someone should remind her that the Trump campaign did not inform those same "geniuses" that
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 07:00 AM
Oct 2018

the Trump campaign including Trump Jr and Jared were involved in a conspiracy with a hostile foreign government to try and fix the election.

SKKY

(11,810 posts)
40. Kellyanne Conway is pretty arrogant considering they only won by 80K votes...
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:22 AM
Oct 2018

That is not exactly a mandate as I understand the definition of the word. Speaking not even to the fact that they loss the popular vote by more than 3 million.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
41. Check the vote count Skelator,Clinton DID win..........
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 10:57 AM
Oct 2018

But Republicans will NEVER let go of an 200 year old "college" that was put in place ONLY because they thought back then people were too stupid to know who to really vote for so they had the LAST word.

A vote is a vote,everyone gets just one. People shouldn't be PUNISHED with a farce like Trump because they choose to live in a more populated State. Each vote should count as ONE and not be decided by a single vote getting all the Electoral votes for that State.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
42. If Democrats Vote
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 12:22 PM
Oct 2018

If Democrats vote on election day there will be a blue wave. If Independents side with the Democrats there will be an even bigger blue wave. Part of the reason Hilary Clinton did not win the electoral college vote is because Democrats and Independents in key states either voted for Trump, voted for a third party candidate, or did not vote at all. The Republican Party is also on the verge of losing senior citizens. As a result of Trump and the Republican Party attacking Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid seniors are thinking about siding with the Democrats in the midterms.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
44. This is bc CONWAY knows the Russians will get away with the same tricks
Fri Oct 12, 2018, 06:25 PM
Oct 2018

Now that the Fox is guarding the hen house.

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