John Burton apologizes for comparing Republicans to Nazi Goebbels
Source: Los Angeles Times
John Burton, the chairman of the California Democratic Party, has apologized for comparing Republicans to Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels, a comment that quickly sparked outcry from the GOP.
If Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, or the Republicans are insulted by my describing their campaign tactic as the big lie -- I most humbly apologize to them or anyone who might have been offended by that comment, John Burton said in a statement.
... Burton made a point of noting that he never used the word Nazi; however, he did invoke the Nazi minister of propaganda twice.
... Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt also rebuked Burton, saying that his stance doesnt have any place in the political discourse here in Charlotte, though the campaign has yet to say if it will call for Burtons resignation.
Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-john-burton-nazi-goebbels-20120903,0,4440469.story
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)The "big lie" is a Nazi tactic.
cstanleytech
(26,306 posts)Also the nazis spent money like it was water to gain control of the government much like the gop is doing, the nazis also blamed minorities for the problems of the nation, again alot like the gop has been doing.
So the next question is, if the gop win this election, how soon until the death camps are formed?
daybranch
(1,309 posts)Yep, and failure to call the lie for what it is, creates a disconnection between our party and the people. We need to tell it like it is. Many of of the most wealthy and most powerful have bought the republican politicians and are trying to further subjugate the people of this country. They have been actively socially engineering the American people to be like the farmers Holstein cows, who are milked as much as possible and then gotten rid of when they no longer are profitable.Used up and thrown away- Romney's real plan for America.
high density
(13,397 posts)Cha
(297,432 posts)Burton!
flamingdem
(39,314 posts)sounds like I should!!
Cha
(297,432 posts)snip..
"Former White House deputy press secretary and current advisor to the pro-Barack Obama Super PAC Priorities USA, Bill Burton, appeared on MSNBC with Andrea Mitchell where he defended the groups decision to run an ad that links GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney to the death of a former steelworkers wife. Burton said that he stands by the ad and that there is nothing factually inaccurate in that spot."
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-burton-to-andrea-mitchell-on-cancer-ad-not-one-fact-in-that-ad-thats-wrong/
flamingdem
(39,314 posts)We need those who tell it directly.
cyclezealot
(4,802 posts)Its not as if the Gobbers are nice people and don't play dirty. They have been trying to marginalize Democrats for 30 years by using adjectives that make us look extreme.. I'd explained my comments but not apologized , since technique wise, Burton in right on.
chuckstevens
(1,201 posts)NO! NO! NO!
Why is it that Republicans can say or do anything offensive and then defiantly refuse to apologize, but the Democrats always cave in and give Republicans the humiliation they want? By the way, the Big Lie analogy was right on the mark! Why apologize for speaking the truth?
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)Weren't the Nazis extreme right wingers? Why is it okay for the GOP to compare Obama to Hitler but a Dem can't go there?
baldguy
(36,649 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Thus not apologizing for the truth
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck ... it's a duck. The republican party is fascist, it's pro-rape, and it wants people to die due to lack of health care; they are the party that came up with GingrichCare, which will prolong, not solve, our health care problems. They're psychopaths.
Cha
(297,432 posts)Why apologize for stating FACT?
catbyte
(34,414 posts)Deal?
Diane
Anishinaabe in MI
Smilo
(1,944 posts)we can say it, you can't.
As everyone else has said Dems must stop apologizing for telling the truth.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Asking for an apology just put it in the spotlight again. Keep it up, you Goebbels-like assholes.
Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)flamingdem
(39,314 posts)That's how the game is played these days.
Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)flamingdem
(39,314 posts)and the world will be endangered. I don't see that as hyperbole.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)voter id laws , robme laughing all the way to the bank after sending thousands of jobs out this country. No apologies for the tremendous grief caused by the loss of these jobs, no apologies yet. Don't even mention the bs apologies from GOP about akins claims yet just look at the GOP platform!!!
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Who's going to keep the Repiglicans clean?
Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)Would you have us sink to the repub level?
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Uh huh.....
You have more faith in the electorate than I do. Not only do they fall for bullshit, they fall for the false equivalency of Republicans demanding apologies for everything that's true about them.
Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)who put Bush in office twice?
Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)harmonicon
(12,008 posts)That's definitely what they're going for, at least.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)We need to rat-fuck them as much as they rat-fuck us.
Pterodactyl
(1,687 posts)And seriously, if we're not BETTER than them, what's the point of winning?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)magic59
(429 posts)They are more like fascists with a pinch of sociopaths, a dash of psychopaths and rounded out by a plethora of pathological lairs.
elleng
(131,028 posts)all that is right, yet I'm afraid I MUST compare the GOPPERS and their extremist rightwing buddies to the NAZIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
olddad56
(5,732 posts)_Liann_
(377 posts)Historic NY
(37,452 posts)Put them on the defensive. And don't ever apologize for anything. Harry Truman
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)David__77
(23,434 posts)John Burton will never apologize for telling the truth. "If they are offended," he is oh so sorry ha.
Alamuti Lotus
(3,093 posts)his 'apology' contains a delightful subtlety that is sure to fly far over the heads of its target audience.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)I apologize IF R-money and R-lyin were offended by my calling them "BIG LIERS"!!!
Calls them liers once again in his so-called apology.
SunSeeker
(51,598 posts)We need to keep the pressure on. John Burton, I am proud to have you as chairman of my California Democratic Party.
Great Caesars Ghost
(532 posts)which is almost as evil as the GOP
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)but we were doing the count down from the moment we heard about what he said.
5, 4, 3, 2, 1...GOPathetic and Bagger victim WHINING.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I hope you weren't as offended by what I said as much as I am offended by what you are doing. The Romney camp has let it's hood slip one to many times. Mitt's team talking about his Anglo Saxon roots. "If you want free stuff vote for the other guy." "I was born in Michigan no one asked to see my birth certificate." And his whole vote for me I am an American spiel. So, if they don't want to be called masters of deception, they should stop lying so much. If they don't want to be called racists they should stop being racists. And if they don't want to be told that they are only working for rich people they should stop demonizing poor people. I think the criticism of the Republican party is immensely deserved. I just wish there was a way to do this without looking like you are exaggerating.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)If Karl Rove has ever found a moment for self-reflection, I imagine it's been used to consider what he could be doing to be more like Goebbels.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)...but they certainly ARE using the techniques of propaganda that Goebbel used during the build up to WWII. Sorry if that hurts your little feelings..but if the shoe fits.....
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)In fact, I'll repeat it.
Republicans are Nazi's.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)Goebbels is dead, so he wouldn't have been offended.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)Also Republicans have not set fire to the Capital with the exception of Cheney's office.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)FUCK THE REPUBLICANS!!!
AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts).... his "apology" was a Republican-style non-apology. The TeeVee talking fucks can call this an apology, but it is not one.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Never apologize for the truth. The Republican party is running its campaign like the nazi party of the 30's. Rich white men, "beating down" the gays, seniors, women, middle class, Latinos......... everything fits...
bemildred
(90,061 posts)and I will do my best to maintain the dignity and decorum of the Congress in the future."
But seriously, Burton would have done better to leave the Nazis out, obvious though they are.
jsr
(7,712 posts)and very accurate.
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels would have been offended.....There is no call for that...
Ian David
(69,059 posts)Setsuna1972
(332 posts)If you get a change to watch some of those shows on the Military Channel or History Channel on how the Nazis used propaganda, you'd instantly see that Fox Noise and the Reptilicans are using the same playbook Goobels wrote
(and for the record, I apologize to the real Lizard aliens or creatures out there who were offended by my remarks above)
Paladin
(28,267 posts)This country is closer to a fascist mindset than ever before. And if Limbaugh and his many imitators aren't the obvious heirs to Goebbels, I'd like some clear and convincing evidence to the contrary.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)is nice, yet sometimes returning what's received, down and dirty, is the only course. All this Democratic Party playing nicey, nicey is sad to me. THE RETHUGS ARE USING THE BIG LIE, A STRATEGY NOT WITHOUT HISTORICAL PRECEDENT!!!!! Give me a break.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Stewland
(163 posts)The party of Bachman,Santorum,Akin,King ect looks and sounds like Fascists to me. Aleinate whole groups of people and publicaly defame and question their loyalty and humanity is a tactic used by fascists world wide. This creation of a boogeyman to stir people's anger and resentment is intentional. Let's face it the average citizen is easily mislead due to the fact that they are too lazy to do the work of educating themselves. All the while the real evil is the very one who creates the hatred and anger. Calling the GOP out for being fascist like is just being honest.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)And I ain't apologizing for saying that.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)While I am a volunteer for Obama and I recognize his need to appear objective to convince independents to vote for him, I also know that Burton is correct. I realize that to tell republicans and independents that they have been duped and are still being duped may turn many of them off to the rest of our message. However informed democrats like Burton should never stop speaking the truth.
The truth is that some of our richest and most powerful want to change our country into a fascist state, a state where business and government unite to control the people. Italy and Germany both were fascist states during second world war. Is it not reasonable to look for comparisons between the methods used to support fascism then and now and then to point that out?
For those that do not see this, I say look around you and as the police say follow the money. Everything that works against your liberty is coming from the fascist republican party. They cry individual freedom, while trying to strip people of their rights to vote. They yell Obama is failing while working to stop any action to help make jobs. I know which side these fascist republican leaders are on and I know what tactics they use. I realize the Nazis created anger at and fear of communists to drive the voters of Germany to take power fromthe people and put it in the hands of Hitler. I see this being played out here as the fascist republican leaders continually and loudly denounce any action for the common god as socialism and our President as an ungodly (read Muslim) socialist (read communist).
Obama's campaign of failing to speak truth to power, failig to directly call out the villians and their war on all of us, is a campaign tactic, and I hope and pray it works but failing to recognize the history of the political and labor struggles in the world and how they are fought and for what ends, seems somewhat self defeating. Biden and Burton for President in 2016!!!
SunSeeker
(51,598 posts)It was great, they were broadcasting from the floor of the Dem Convention, and Alan Colmes came right out and said exactly what Burton said--but with no apologies!
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)I wouldn't appologize for shit.