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jpak

(41,758 posts)
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 09:51 AM Oct 2018

Storm Leslie: Portugal hit by hurricane-force winds

Source: BBC

Hurricane-force winds have struck central and northern Portugal, leaving 300,000 homes without power.

The remnants of Hurricane Leslie swept in overnight on Saturday, with winds gusting up to 176km/h (109mph).

Civil defence officials said 27 people suffered minor injuries, with localised flooding, hundreds of trees uprooted and a number of flights cancelled.

The storm, one of the most powerful to ever hit the country, is now passing over northern Spain.

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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45853847

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Storm Leslie: Portugal hit by hurricane-force winds (Original Post) jpak Oct 2018 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear Oct 2018 #1
"one of the most powerful to ever hit the country" The_jackalope Oct 2018 #2
Golly, what could it be? ananda Oct 2018 #3
I take a contrarian view on that... The_jackalope Oct 2018 #4
This storm had formed a month ago and literally became a "zombie" BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #5
this behavior seems new RussBLib Oct 2018 #6
There have been a bunch that got cut off from any upper air/ocean currents BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #7
Thank you bdamomma Oct 2018 #8
You are welcome! BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #9

Response to jpak (Original post)

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
2. "one of the most powerful to ever hit the country"
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 10:25 AM
Oct 2018

Gee, if we only knew why storms were becoming stronger...

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
4. I take a contrarian view on that...
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 02:19 PM
Oct 2018

There's not nearly enough sodomy and abortions in the world to keep these storms from happening. Get busy, everybody!.

BumRushDaShow

(129,072 posts)
5. This storm had formed a month ago and literally became a "zombie"
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:01 PM
Oct 2018

completely cut off from any kind of flow to move it along. It had transitioned between a subtropical storm/tropical storm/hurricane a few times before finally moving out towards Europe as an extra-tropical system.

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
6. this behavior seems new
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 03:49 PM
Oct 2018

I don't recall other hurricanes acting this way before. I know a rare one hits the British Isles, but not that far south.

BumRushDaShow

(129,072 posts)
7. There have been a bunch that got cut off from any upper air/ocean currents
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 05:45 PM
Oct 2018

and sortof sat and spun in place or drifted around in circles until finally heading out. In fact, there was one just last year - Hurricane Lee, that had all but dissipated, then regenerated, and drifted on and off into various statuses for over 2 weeks just like Leslie.

Hurricane Lee (2017) -



Back in 1995 I remember Hurricane Felix was barreling towards the east coast and then suddenly stopped short and started just spinning around in place before moving on near the coast and then off towards the NE over to the UK.

Hurricane Felix (1995) -



What is a bit different with Leslie though, is where it headed on its final journey, which is pretty far south from where they normally go based on the Gulf Stream flow.



You can see how the natural ocean currents push the newly born storms off the coast of Africa and over to the western hemisphere -



Whenever the storms hit here around North America, they (or some remnant of them) eventually jump the jetstream or a front or a trough, and head on out over the Atlantic. And once they reach the Gulf Stream, they head over to the UK as extratropical/non-tropical systems, where they become the famous raging storms that batter the coasts of Scotland.

Problem though is because of climate change and melting of glaciers up in the far northern reaches, the changes to ocean temperatures around the globe seem to possibly be impacting these known currents, which means that storms that normally ride along them may be more unpredictable.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
8. Thank you
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:25 PM
Oct 2018

for your posting. Very informative.
Climate change vs tRump, hopefully we can take care of both of these catastrophes.

BumRushDaShow

(129,072 posts)
9. You are welcome!
Sun Oct 14, 2018, 06:59 PM
Oct 2018

I saw a story on Accuweather from a few years ago that talked about an anomalous "cold pools" (or "cold blobs" ) in the Atlantic, which was probably caused by glacier melt from Greenland -



As of the last data available from NOAA, that cold blob was still very much there as of August of this year -



Of course hurricanes thrive in the bath water parts of the ocean (as long as they don't get sheared away by the westerlies).

And yeah, we need to do something fast because he is dismantling the policies designed to minimize greenhouse gasses, quick, fast, and in a hurry.

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