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pstokely

(10,528 posts)
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 09:12 AM Oct 2018

Missouri voters without IDs won't have to sign an affidavit to cast a ballot, judge rules

Source: St Louis Post Dispatch

JEFFERSON CITY • Missouri voters who do not have a photo ID when they arrive at the polls will no longer have to sign a sworn statement to cast a ballot.

In a ruling issued Tuesday, Cole County Senior Judge Richard Callahan clarified an earlier decision that jettisoned the sworn statement as a requirement for voting on Nov. 6 without a photo ID.

In his ruling, Callahan said the decision “applies to all persons who act in concert and participation with the Secretary of State and the State of Missouri in administering and certifying elections within the State of Missouri, including local election authorities.”

Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft had argued that an earlier Callahan decision to end the use of the affidavit made it unclear if the ruling applied at the local level.

Read more: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/missouri-voters-without-ids-won-t-have-to-sign-an/article_e698fb42-4484-5445-85ee-7cb1e357455a.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

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Missouri voters without IDs won't have to sign an affidavit to cast a ballot, judge rules (Original Post) pstokely Oct 2018 OP
Need every vote there in MO! BumRushDaShow Oct 2018 #1
It's not that easy in FL. lark Oct 2018 #2
"provisional which are never counted" LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #3
That's what I was told in pollwatching class. lark Oct 2018 #4
Provisional ballots that are not resolved are not counted. LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #5
Most of the rejections are because of inadequate identification, according to state laws. lark Oct 2018 #6

lark

(23,105 posts)
2. It's not that easy in FL.
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:00 AM
Oct 2018

WE have very strict voter ID requirements including 12 forms of acceptable picture ID and must have a signature ID as well if picture ID doesn't contain a signature. That's not awful because student ID's, VA ID's, military ID's, government worker IDs are accepted as well as drivers license and FL ID. But here, if you don't have this identification, you don't vote except provisional which are never counted.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
3. "provisional which are never counted"
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:37 AM
Oct 2018

Unless the election is close enough for them to matter? I can see not bothering to count provisional ballots if there is no race close enough for the provisional ballots to change the outcome, but never?

lark

(23,105 posts)
4. That's what I was told in pollwatching class.
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:44 AM
Oct 2018

Don't know if this is just the state of FL, but that's what the election law attorney told us.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
5. Provisional ballots that are not resolved are not counted.
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 10:52 AM
Oct 2018

The reason one casts a provisional ballot is because a problem exists with one's registration. If the person does not follow up and resolve the issue, then that ballot is not counted. I suppose by definition, that provisional ballot is converted into a regular ballot, so any that remain provisional are never counted.

But I don't like the simple statement that provisional ballots are never counted. If you have to, cast a provisional ballot and do what is needed to make it count. Don't give up because someone tried to suppress your vote.

lark

(23,105 posts)
6. Most of the rejections are because of inadequate identification, according to state laws.
Wed Oct 24, 2018, 11:01 AM
Oct 2018

Better to go home and get the identification and then vote regular than to vote provisional and try to correct it later, at least in this state. With early voting, we have until 11/4 to Early vote and of course there's always the designated election day, 11/6. Provisional ballots are almost impossible to resolve here, where the Supervisor of Elections is strongly red.

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