Migrant caravan members reject offer to stay in Mexico
Source: NBC News
ARRIAGA, Mexico Several thousand Central American migrants turned down a Mexican offer of benefits if they applied for refugee status and stayed in the country's two southernmost states, vowing to set out before dawn Saturday to continue their long trek toward the U.S. border.
Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto announced what he called the "You are at home" plan, offering shelter, medical attention, schooling and jobs to Central Americans in Chiapas and Oaxaca states if they applied, calling it a first step toward permanent refugee status. Authorities said more than 1,700 had already applied for refugee status.
But after one of the caravan's longest days of walking and hanging from passing trucks, the bulk of the migrants were boisterous Friday evening in their refusal to accept anything less than safe passage to the U.S. border.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/migrant-caravan-members-reject-offer-stay-mexico-n925171
3Hotdogs
(12,390 posts)The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)It's not that they shouldn't be allowed to come here and pursue what once would have been called the American dream. Hell, growing up as an America I never considered America a nation all and to it's own. I always considered America unique amoung nations because we are the world and therefore was what every person on earth could aspire to, that is come here and pursue opportunity. However, now, the American dream is now a nightmare. I think they should take Mexico up on their offer, because coming here, if they even get in, would lead to more trauma than it is worth.
watoos
(7,142 posts)and the last word I would use to describe them would be boisterous.
My headline would have been that the caravan is shrinking, 1,700 accept Mexico's offer of refugee status.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)They will accept the Mexico offer. It is far better than the reception they will receive here.
Chemisse
(30,813 posts)I feel so badly for them, thinking we are still that shining city on the hill.
janterry
(4,429 posts)they are so deserving
oberliner
(58,724 posts)True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Longer that under Trump and Republicans.
groundloop
(11,519 posts)For the sake of honesty, Tiny should have the words on the Statue of Liberty edited slightly -
THIS:
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
will become THIS:
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, (so long as they're white). The wretched refuse of your teeming shore ( so long as they're rich). Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! "
Ohioboy
(3,243 posts)After Trump ruins his country we'll all be in caravans going the other way.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)I'm not waiting for what I know is inevitable. The crash and burn. Nope, I came back to vote and liquidate my assets. I voted, and now I'm almost done with the rest.
7962
(11,841 posts)The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)Over the past two years I've been building a self sufficient homestead on that land, and I started a business in that country. I saw the handwriting on the walls early on. I studied what areas of the Earth went basically unaffected during WWII, and that's how I made my choice as to where to relocate.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)cstanleytech
(26,294 posts)unfortunately I lack the financial means to make such a move.
7962
(11,841 posts)So why NOT Mexico? Or Costa Rica? Or Nicaragua?
Mexico is offering help, they should consider it.
eta- at least the 1700 HAVE.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)videohead5
(2,178 posts)Thinks it's really strange that they picked a few weeks before the election to start coming. I would not put anything past the GOP.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)dangerous trek, have them walking under the scorching sun until their feet are raw with blisters, just to have them sleep on the hard pavement at night because the GOP planned it?
The article can't speak for everyone on the caravan. Who knows how many will take Mexico's offer to stay, but I'm sure they can't say no one will.
cstanleytech
(26,294 posts)narrative of being anti immigrant.
7962
(11,841 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)But the young men and women traveling alone, well, they are probably trying to come with the intention of working to send money to their families back in Honduras. Us $$$ go way longer towards that than Mexican Pesos. together
cstanleytech
(26,294 posts)anti immigrant sentiment that sweeps through every country every so often so they will probably not be welcomed.
A better plan would have been for them to stop, take Mexico up on the offer and then later on once the wave of anti immigrant sentiment has passed to try and come to the US.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)to trump's better side, saying things like "President trump, you are a parent like us. Please, find it in your heart to let us in. Al we want is to work hard and provide a better future for our children". That's the prevalent feeling among them. They have no idea of the monster he is.
MichMan
(11,938 posts)1) Many are actually fleeing for economic reasons, not because of threats of violence, however they know if they say they need asylum for fear of violence, their chances of getting in are much higher
2) Many are originally from Mexico in the first place ?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)What should the Democratic Party platform be with respect to category 1?
xor
(1,204 posts)but your question reminded me of a discussion I was trying to have the other day. One thing I've noticed is that everyone on all sides of this issue seem to focus only on the immediate short-term perspective. Yes, 7,000 migrants are fleeing their countries for the US. In the grand scheme of things that's a fairly small number. We need to discuss how we're going handle that situation, but why isn't there more discussion about why these folks are fleeing and what we can do to correct it? I rarely see people with the power to make changes discuss the root cause and solutions for that. When the root causes are mentioned it's almost always just in passing.
As with most things, our country focuses only putting out fires rather than the longer term fire prevention. We just haphazardly apply bandaids to the vast majority of the problems we face.
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)Both parties have at the very least acquiesced to unsavory,. if profitable, activities there.
Yeah, Reagan was the worst, but I doubt that many close to the core of the Democratic party really want too harsh a light shined on things that went down around 2009, either... More than a century of -at our most benign - looking the other way.
http://theconversation.com/how-us-policy-in-honduras-set-the-stage-for-todays-migration-65935
Kali
(55,014 posts)we prefer easy bandaids, magic pills, and silver bullets. we have become superficial, selfish, and have mass ADHD. maybe we have always been that way.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)Stargleamer
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haele
(12,660 posts)While there may be some good work available, local corruption and the drug gangs are still a big problem in those regions. Remember the students who disappeared a few years ago? Our neighbors have relatives in Oaxaca, they're living low key just to not be targets.
The ones who choose to go on aren't being stupid or stubborn, they want to make a better life.
Haele