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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:01 PM Oct 2018

Trump: 'Wacko' who opened fire at Pittsburgh synagogue should get death penalty

Source: The Hill


BY CHRIS MILLS RODRIGO - 10/27/18 12:54 PM EDT

President Trump condemned the gunman who opened fire in a Pittsburgh synagogue on Saturday, killing eight people, saying that the shooter "should pay the ultimate price."

Trump spoke to reporters at Joint Base Andrews before departing for a rally in Illinois, lamenting the "terrible, terrible things going on with hate."

Asked about what could be done to curb such violence, Trump suggested bringing the death penalty "into vogue."

"We should stiffen up our laws in terms of the death penalty," he said. "When people do this they should get the death penalty …they should very much bring the death penalty into vogue.

Read more: https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/413468-trump-wacko-who-opened-fire-at-synagogue-should-get-death-penalty



Trump: If Synagogue Had Armed Guards, ‘Results Would Have Been Far Better’

By David Taintor

October 27, 2018 12:48 pm

Speaking shortly after a deadly shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue, President Trump on Saturday said that if the house of worship had armed guards, “the results would have been far better.”




Asked whether gun laws should be tightened in the wake of the shooting, Trump said: “If they had protection inside the results would have been far better. This is a dispute that will always exist I suspect. But if they had some kind of a protection inside the temple maybe it could have been a very much different situation. They didn’t, and he was able to do things that unfortunately he shouldn’t have been able to do.”

At least eight people were killed in the shooting at the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, according to reports. Three officers were shot and a suspect is in custody.

Trump said he would speak about the shooting further at an event later Saturday.

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https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-if-synagogue-had-armed-guards-results-would-have-been-far-better
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Trump: 'Wacko' who opened fire at Pittsburgh synagogue should get death penalty (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2018 OP
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and bucolic_frolic Oct 2018 #1
Those convicted of mass murder should face the death penalty? RHMerriman Oct 2018 #2
What should we do with those who incite mass murder? IggleDuer Oct 2018 #14
You know, as has been pointed out, Charles Manson never RHMerriman Oct 2018 #24
Gotta give Trump credit - death penalty is right up his alley packman Oct 2018 #3
Think of his "verdict" on the Central Park Five IggleDuer Oct 2018 #15
rump is trying to regain the momentum but he's failing since MAGAWacko took it back... SWBTATTReg Oct 2018 #4
Even when he does the "right" thing he does it wrong... RockRaven Oct 2018 #5
The most incredible trait of a sociopath - is their complete lack of conscience... asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #9
Get in line you POS.....so much for unity...civility... asiliveandbreathe Oct 2018 #6
Trump is the Red Queen from Wonderland: "Off with his head!" . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2018 #7
The death penalty is not a deterrent to a mass shooter lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #8
Now, you stop that logical thinking Corgigal Oct 2018 #18
Can't help it lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #20
Math problems in your head for fun. Corgigal Oct 2018 #21
music and math are closely related. lapfog_1 Oct 2018 #22
Precisely The Genealogist Oct 2018 #30
MAYBE NOT EVEN USING THE WORD 'JEW' ON HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY WAS A MISTAKE. NT FreepFryer Oct 2018 #10
so DESPISE Trump. First he wants to arm teachers, now parishioners, that's not the answer. iluvtennis Oct 2018 #11
Shut the fuck up, Donny... Wounded Bear Oct 2018 #12
Yeah, I remember my family going to church as a kid. Dave Starsky Oct 2018 #13
The shooter should get a fair trial as prescribed by law. That's what he should get. yonder Oct 2018 #16
A fair trial is one where the president of the usofa.. Maxheader Oct 2018 #19
a good defense lawyer would use Trump's words as a weapon. cab67 Oct 2018 #26
LOL. Sure, you could even make a public spectacle of it at one of your bund rallies. Live on Fox!!1! PSPS Oct 2018 #17
Is the one who inspired him a co-conspirator? Snellius Oct 2018 #23
And 2 days age he published a post against Trump. He's another "Qanon" idiot. 7962 Oct 2018 #25
Wouldn't call that "against" Trump. Only to the point he doesn't go far enough. Snellius Oct 2018 #28
The shooter killed traditional, Orthodox Jews FakeNoose Oct 2018 #29
Reform not Orthodox but no less true. Snellius Oct 2018 #31
Thanks for the correction, but all Jewish believers are peaceful FakeNoose Oct 2018 #32
He's telling everyone he's a white Nationalist duforsure Oct 2018 #27
I don't know if he says "white Nationalist", I think he just calls himself a Nationalist MiniMe Oct 2018 #33
I'm also for the death penalty for those who conspire against the United States. roamer65 Oct 2018 #34
He must be giddy with delight over the latest shootings. Chemisse Oct 2018 #35
I have a better idea jmowreader Oct 2018 #36
Conservative boasting about killing Jews: keithbvadu2 Oct 2018 #37
yeah because rather than banning some firearms kaotikross Oct 2018 #38

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
2. Those convicted of mass murder should face the death penalty?
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:04 PM
Oct 2018

Those convicted of mass murder should face the death penalty? Really?

Sure you want to go out on that limb, G-Man?

What a buffoon...

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
24. You know, as has been pointed out, Charles Manson never
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 02:38 PM
Oct 2018

You know, as has been pointed out, Charles Manson never killed any of the Tate-LaBianco victims...

He gave speeches, though.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
3. Gotta give Trump credit - death penalty is right up his alley
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:06 PM
Oct 2018

Amazing - he incites violence then feeds his mob with more violence. The guy is truly amazing in his depth of evilness.

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
4. rump is trying to regain the momentum but he's failing since MAGAWacko took it back...
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:06 PM
Oct 2018

from him...one of his supporters I'm guessing. Nothing about guns or the like, his campaign rallies or the language he uses in exhorting his followers and the like. Figures. Tone deaf while still going to one of his hate inspired campaign rallies.

RockRaven

(14,972 posts)
5. Even when he does the "right" thing he does it wrong...
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:07 PM
Oct 2018

He condemns the shooting... great, that's better than he usually does.

But he immediately blows it by weighing in on the specific outcome of the case. That's bad. It undermines what modicum of legitimacy the criminal justice system has when the executive calls for the judiciary to render a certain verdict.

He is an oafish oaf who oafs. Jesus.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
9. The most incredible trait of a sociopath - is their complete lack of conscience...
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:14 PM
Oct 2018

lack of empathy, remorse, guilt or shame. Sociopaths are great at feigning moral outrage
or playing victim - I will never give this MAGAbigot a pass.....

He needs to be exiled to an island, far, far, away, what the hell has he done for the better - NOTHING!

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
8. The death penalty is not a deterrent to a mass shooter
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:10 PM
Oct 2018

They ASSUME that they are going to die from police gun fire.

That is the plan... and the only times it doesn't happen that way is generally AFTER they have shot a large number of people and are cornered by the police.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
18. Now, you stop that logical thinking
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:45 PM
Oct 2018

and all that. This is America, and he thought it sounded good. Visuals are all that matter, none of this scientific logic. Tsk tsk.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
20. Can't help it
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:53 PM
Oct 2018

As a young child I was heavily influenced by Spock on Star Trek.

I write software and deal with computers all day long (and often all night long).

I do math problems in my head for fun.

I once worked at NASA for over a decade... doing "skyance" stuff.



Sigh.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
21. Math problems in your head for fun.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:59 PM
Oct 2018

Fun fact, I read recently that the rock band Queen had so many hits were based on all the members having a mathematical background. Might want to try writing some tunes. Let me know when you're famous.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
22. music and math are closely related.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 02:04 PM
Oct 2018

but I can't sing a note... and the only instrument I ever wanted to play was the hammered dulcimer.



or maybe some steel drums...

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
30. Precisely
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 03:19 PM
Oct 2018

They expect to get taken out. And I don't doubt that people who perpetrate these mass killings think they're going to be venerated as martyrs to their despicable causes.

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
11. so DESPISE Trump. First he wants to arm teachers, now parishioners, that's not the answer.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:17 PM
Oct 2018

We need to get semi automatic weapons out of the hands of civilians with sensible gun control.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
13. Yeah, I remember my family going to church as a kid.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:23 PM
Oct 2018

Me with my M1911 in my quick-release shoulder holster and a KA-BAR in my sock, Dad with his Ingram Mac 11 slung discretely under his jacket, Mom with extra high-capacity mags for both of us in her purse and carrying a lime Jell-O salad she made for the Easter lunch in the Fellowship Hall after worship.

We didn't have these problems in those days. We were good Christian people.

yonder

(9,666 posts)
16. The shooter should get a fair trial as prescribed by law. That's what he should get.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:35 PM
Oct 2018

And if found guilty, be subject to the penalties prescribed by those same set of laws. And when the time comes, hopefully sooner then later, the same objective, critical process should apply to tRump himself, as much as I would like to see otherwise.

tRump likes to ignore that first step, as in "lock her up".

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
19. A fair trial is one where the president of the usofa..
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:49 PM
Oct 2018

doesn't condemn until those charged are proven guilty...

But, you know...invaded iraq without proof
they had anything to do with 9-11...
Shrub sure did the constitution a disservice.

cab67

(2,993 posts)
26. a good defense lawyer would use Trump's words as a weapon.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 02:48 PM
Oct 2018

It could be argued that, by calling for the death penalty, Trump is depriving his client of his right for a fair trial.

PSPS

(13,601 posts)
17. LOL. Sure, you could even make a public spectacle of it at one of your bund rallies. Live on Fox!!1!
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 01:41 PM
Oct 2018

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
23. Is the one who inspired him a co-conspirator?
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 02:07 PM
Oct 2018

"An hour before the shooting, Bowers wrote on a social media site, Gab, “HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics. I’m going in.” HIAS is the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society that helps refugees."
https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/robert-bowers/

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Snellius

(6,881 posts)
28. Wouldn't call that "against" Trump. Only to the point he doesn't go far enough.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 03:04 PM
Oct 2018

Trump was using the same white-supremacist code "globalist" only yesterday to point the finger at Jews. He knew what he meant, as did the audience of black conservatives who yelled back, "Soros. Lock him up". Most QAnon think of him as one of them in disguise.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
29. The shooter killed traditional, Orthodox Jews
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 03:12 PM
Oct 2018

These are people who walk to synagogue services because it's against their religion to drive on the Sabbath. On the Sabbath they are forbidden to use cellphones, push buttons on elevators, do any "work" in the home such as cooking, cleaning or laundry. These are peaceful, private people who mostly vote Republican (as far as I know) and don't own guns.

The guy who shot them probably knows nothing about the traditional orthodox Jewish beliefs. I hope he gets the electric chair, and we don't even have capital punishment in Pennsylvania.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
31. Reform not Orthodox but no less true.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 03:26 PM
Oct 2018

Tree of Life Synagogue, they say, is open and progressive even welcoming non-Jews. But your sentiments are, of course, no less true.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
27. He's telling everyone he's a white Nationalist
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 02:51 PM
Oct 2018

Then after they feel emboldened to act out he tries to distance himself , and then makes the victims responsible they didn't have guns there was the cause. The white nationalists in Congress allowing this to go on have no place in OUR government , and both Houses should be retaken control of to stop him from ramping this up even more now. The history of white nationalists is full of violence they've used against others , and as we are now seeing here. Vote them all out of office .

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
34. I'm also for the death penalty for those who conspire against the United States.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 06:16 PM
Oct 2018

Especially when they conspire with Russia against us.

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
35. He must be giddy with delight over the latest shootings.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 06:34 PM
Oct 2018

Since they will knock his bombings out of the news plus give him a chance to revive some favorite talking points.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
36. I have a better idea
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 08:14 PM
Oct 2018

Let's arrest Donald R. Gissendaner* and throw him in jail WITHOUT his fucking phone before he radicalizes anyone else. Moar Gunzzz! is not the solution to any problem, except maybe declining gun sales.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Gissendaner

keithbvadu2

(36,828 posts)
37. Conservative boasting about killing Jews:
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:47 PM
Oct 2018

Conservative boasting about killing Jews:

“We killed six million Jews the last time,” he answered. “Eleven million is nothing.”

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article167939222.html

kaotikross

(246 posts)
38. yeah because rather than banning some firearms
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:32 PM
Oct 2018

everyone should hire better armed people to repel the armed people who will then get more armed people to take on the better armed people who should hire more armed people....

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