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sl8

(13,851 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:09 PM Oct 2018

Reports: Votes in Texas, Georgia are being changed at polls

Source: Axios

Shannon Vavra, Joe Uchill | 5 hours ago

Some early voters in Texas and Georgia have been reporting that their party selections on their voting machines have been switched to the opposite party, or are not selecting candidates at all, according to reports by ABC13 and USA Today.

Why it matters: Such vote recording problems raise questions among voters about whether their votes are being counted properly and whether voting machines are rigged.

Texas
In Texas, voter selections across both sides of the aisle have reportedly been changed. Votes for Democrat Beto O'Rourke have been switched to incumbent Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, while votes for Cruz have ended up selecting no candidate at all.


• The problems stem from glitches in the Hart Intercivic eSlate voting machine, according to the Texas Secretary of State's office.


Read more: https://www.axios.com/votes-texas-georgia-changed-polls-election-security-midterms-2018-a70ea590-5e97-409c-922b-d74792a49e1c.html
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defacto7

(13,485 posts)
2. Ah, so they changed their story.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:27 PM
Oct 2018

It's not human error like they said yesterday. Now it's machine error. The flipping sequence is also interesting. If a Dem vote is flipped to Rep and a Rep vote is not counted that means out of two voters it's 1 vote for a Republican and 0 votes for the Democrat. What a coincidence.

I'm sure we all realize that industry has a vast amount of working, usable and much more sophisticated computer equipment than what is being sold to us as voting machines. This is dime store technology they are using.

CountAllVotes

(20,877 posts)
3. Here we go again!
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 09:36 PM
Oct 2018

Why doesn't someone do something about this ...

I know!

If you see that your ballot changed call the Election Protection Hotline: (866) OUR-VOTE IF you see any inconsistencies at all please call the phone # listed above.

& recommend.

catrose

(5,071 posts)
4. We've been complaining for years, since we got stuck with Hart InterCivics
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:12 PM
Oct 2018

NEXT year we'll have new machines with a paper trail.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. 1-866-OUR-VOTE.....what to do if your vote changes. Stop, make a call....
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:27 PM
Oct 2018

DEMAND YOUR VOTE BE CORRECT BEFORE PLACING IT.

Can they turn in a vote manually, if the electronic way won't correctly register it?

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
5. We early voted Thursday
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:25 PM
Oct 2018

My wife's vote was changed twice. She caught it both times. Told the worker there who said she must have selected the wrong box twice.
Cheating bastards.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. So how was it fixed?
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:27 PM
Oct 2018

Did the attendant do anything to fix it? Or did selecting it several times fix it? Did she vote straight ticket, or individually? I've always been uncomfortable with the straight ticket vote. So I usually click on each one individually. My own special paranoia, I guess.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
13. selected individually
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 12:16 AM
Oct 2018

after the second correction it stuck (or at least that is what it showed). The corruption the GOP has introduced into the voting process has wiped out all trust. Agree on the straight ticket preference.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
17. The election judge would have (and should have) no way to fix the machine
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 09:06 AM
Oct 2018

The machines should have been verified before being put in service. As I understand the problem, if someone selects a straight ticket, the error occurs. Individually selecting each race works. That is the problem with direct selection machines, there is no way to verify a person's actions to test the machines.

I am an election judge in Minnesota. We use paper ballots, counted by a machine. Each machine is certified before it is put in use. 100 ballots are are run through the machine and the totals have to match what is on the ballots. This can be repeatedly done with the same ballots. A person touching a screen is not a repeatable series of events.

In any case, the people operating the machines during the election should have absolutely no way to affect the programming of the machine. Their only option should be to report it, shut the machine down and start collecting paper ballots.

efhmc

(14,731 posts)
6. Not even close to being new.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 10:37 PM
Oct 2018

This is why I do not vote a straight ticket but mark each candidate separately. No more straight tickets after this year. I think the repugs like this but I am sure it will not be good for them.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
7. I live in GA and voted a couple of days ago. Double checked my straight Dem ticket
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:06 PM
Oct 2018

Problem is there is no paper trail with these touch screen voting machines. Once you select vote, you have no idea if that machine didn't flip those votes to Republican. So who knows?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,388 posts)
8. paper paper paper
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:19 PM
Oct 2018

Eliminate all machines except one to print a paper ballot in the voter's preferred language.

Paper provides a secret ballot -- only the voter can confirm it reflects the voter's choices.
Paper provides a verifiable election -- the entire public can watch the entire process from voting to tally without connecting choices to individual voters.

Machines trade verifiable elections for fast counts. Which is more important?

C Moon

(12,219 posts)
11. Here we go again. I recall hearing the EXACT same thing in our last fake presidential election.
Sat Oct 27, 2018, 11:33 PM
Oct 2018

Then DU went off the air.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,175 posts)
19. I have no idea why this is not the number one concern raised by every Democrat
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 04:39 PM
Oct 2018

All the time. Whenever they get even a second on the air. PAPER BALLOTS ONLY!

I also don' t know why our esteemed members of the press do not do the same. But I've grown so cynical of the MSM that I'm almost resigned to their ineptitude.

This part of democracy should be a given. The security of the vote. That should be the base line. Democrats are doing well at fighting other forms of voter suppression. But nothing about securing the basic numbers. So all that effort will be going to waste if the basic vote tallies are fudged.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
14. Optical scan paper ballots.
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 12:40 AM
Oct 2018

We have them in MI. I love them. There is a paper trail in case of recount.

Rizen

(720 posts)
20. Notice the imbalance of who gets votes:
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 07:57 PM
Oct 2018

"Votes for Democrat Beto O'Rourke have been switched to incumbent Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, while votes for Cruz have ended up selecting no candidate at all. "
Cruz is winning this exchange.

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