U.S. House Speaker Ryan rejects Trump plan on birthright citizenship: Washington Post
Source: Reuters
OCTOBER 30, 2018 / 2:14 PM / UPDATED AN HOUR AGO
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan said on Tuesday that it was not possible to end birthright citizenship with an executive order, after President Donald Trump said he was considering such a move, the Washington Post reported.
You cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order, Ryan, the top Republican in Congress, said in an interview with radio station WVLK, according to the Post.
Most people born in the United States are legally entitled to U.S. citizenship, according to the U.S. Constitution and court decisions.
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PAUL RYAN SLAMS DONALD TRUMPS PLAN TO ELIMINATE BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP, SAYS YOU OBVIOUSLY CANNOT DO THAT
BY JULIANA ROSE PIGNATARO ON 10/30/18 AT 2:33 PM
ouse Speaker Paul Ryan went against President Donald Trump on Tuesday after Trump said he planned to sign an executive order eliminating the right to citizenship for children born in the United States to non citizen parents. In an interview, Ryan rejected such a plan, saying you obviously cannot do that.
Well, you obviously cannot do that, the speaker told radio station WVLK. You cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order. We didnt like it when Obama tried changing immigration laws via executive action, and obviously as conservatives, we believe in the Constitution.
"I think in this case the 14th Amendment's pretty clear, and that would involve a very very lengthy constitutional process," Ryan continued.
The first section of the 14th Amendment deals with birthright citizenship, stating that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The president had not yet responded to Ryan's comments as of Tuesday afternoon.
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turbinetree
(24,720 posts)Well, you obviously cannot do that, the speaker told radio station WVLK. You cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order. We didnt like it when Obama tried changing immigration laws via executive action, and obviously as conservatives, we believe in the Constitution.
we believe in the Constitution.
What have you been doing for over two years since this racist narcissistic malignant psychopath...............fucking nothing accept fucking the middle class and poor with tax cuts and trying to fuck people with pre-existing conditions...........
Well asshole you failed that requirement, from the get go, second, your a liar.......................so FUCK YOU
Come November 6, 2018 will take over I hope and show how to run a country against a fucking traitor and his criminal gang, including republicans taking jaunts to Russia .....................and trying to take down the RULE of LAW...................like the Constitution.....................................
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)But to hear a rebuke from Ryan, at least they are not all totally brain dead and complicit on every matter he spews out from his lizard brain.
cstanleytech
(26,320 posts)side with Trump over this he would be 100% behind it in a heartbeat.
joshdawg
(2,651 posts)Ryan's nose would break if trump made a sudden turn.
Jedi Guy
(3,259 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Putting all Americans a court order away from being stripped of citizenship might give even today's conservatives pause.
The Liberal Lion
(1,414 posts)This is surprising that any republican, even a lame duck like Ryan, was finally able to say the truth. The question is, is it just smoke and mirrors not to scare off independents?
Stallion
(6,476 posts)its not really my area of expertise but as a litigator we deal with jurisdiction over the person and property both within and outside the United States or an individual state all the time. Its fundamental law that the United States has (personal) jurisdiction over the person of anybody who can be located within the borders of the United States (except perhaps foreign ambassadors). (ie recent Russian served with subpoena by FBI immediately after arriving at JFK Airport). What am I missing-or is this just bullshit?
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)You write:
There's no "perhaps" about it. There are diplomatic personnel who enjoy diplomatic immunity and therefore aren't subject to US jurisdiction. It's not just the ambassadors; IIRC their immediate families are also included, which is what's relevant here. Suppose that, while in the US, the ambassador or the ambassador's wife gives birth. That kid is entitled to diplomatic immunity as soon as he or she is born, and is therefore not a US citizen.
I think that some personnel below the rank of full ambassador also get immunity, but I know that not every embassy employee does so.
So, yes, as you say, the exception in the Fourteenth Amendment applies to very few people.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,494 posts)St. Ronnie will wreak pestilence upon his golf handicap and haunt all his future lobbing gigs......
Just couldn't resist an opportunity to throw some shade on President Obama. Still jealous after all these years....
FakeNoose
(32,777 posts)It's not just one guy, it's not just one party. The entire country needs to tell Cheeto to STFU.
But if you decide to impeach him instead, I'm down with it.
keithbvadu2
(36,937 posts)Republicans whined that Obama was legislating with Executive Orders and now we find out that Trump can void the Constitution with his own EOs.
Sarcasm?
truthisfreedom
(23,157 posts)DeSmet
(257 posts)Nothing more.