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groundloop

(11,521 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 09:43 PM Oct 2018

Veterans slam Trump for border 'stunt'

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)With his decision to deploy more than 5,000 troops to the US-Mexico border, President Donald Trump has ordered more military personnel to the US southwest than he has serving in some of the world's most contentious combat zones.

Senior military officers have defended the deployment on national security grounds but the mission -- dubbed Operation Faithful Patriot -- raises a slew of questions, with many veterans condemning it as a political stunt by a President eager to fire up his political base just days away from the midterm elections.

"Donald Trump thinks unarmed people who are fleeing horrors and are still 1,000 miles away are a national security threat a week before election day?" said Will Fischer, a former Marine who now works for the VoteVets, a progressive veteran's organization.

Fischer and other veterans point to the unknown cost to taxpayers, given that much smaller deployments of National Guard to the border have cost hundreds of millions of dollars. They also question the cost the military will bear, as the operation pulls troops away from training, other missions and their families. And then, they say, there's the murky legality of the mission, its scope and its purpose.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/30/politics/trump-troops-border-criticisms/index.html



Most of the migrants in the caravan want to apply for asylum, which of course is not illegal.
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Veterans slam Trump for border 'stunt' (Original Post) groundloop Oct 2018 OP
Campaign propaganda stunt Mr.Bill Oct 2018 #1
EXACTLY. GOPers are good at sowing fear. groundloop Oct 2018 #2
By himself, mia Oct 2018 #3
Himself. n/t Mr.Bill Oct 2018 #4
I hadn't thought of that. mia Oct 2018 #13
What could possibly go wrong? SCVDem Oct 2018 #5
Ole sarge POV. sarge43 Oct 2018 #6
Total civilian POV: sounds about right to me... Hekate Oct 2018 #11
The United States military Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2018 #7
Senior military officers: translation atreides1 Oct 2018 #8
Currently there are an estimated 4,000 people in the "caravan" dflprincess Oct 2018 #9
who names these "missions"? mahannah Oct 2018 #10
Typical GOP name. ChazInAz Oct 2018 #14
The right-wing, Trump-inspired, armed militia are salivating as we speak. mia Oct 2018 #12
Trump is using them duforsure Oct 2018 #15

groundloop

(11,521 posts)
2. EXACTLY. GOPers are good at sowing fear.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 09:49 PM
Oct 2018

I remember W's security color BS after 9-11, and how it magically got elevated a few months before the election.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
5. What could possibly go wrong?
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 09:57 PM
Oct 2018

It's a set up to redo the Kent State Massacre.

Any excuse to stroke his petty ego and show off for his dictator buddies.

sarge43

(28,944 posts)
6. Ole sarge POV.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 10:07 PM
Oct 2018

Cluster coitus waiting to happen

1. Ill defined mission

2. Conflicting orders

3. Questionable logistics

4. Bored troops, but with an overlay of tension. Just about guaranteed somebody is going to do something stupid.

Hekate

(90,787 posts)
11. Total civilian POV: sounds about right to me...
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 10:24 PM
Oct 2018

...having lived through the 1960s.

This is not their job -- they should not be tasked with this. It's wrong of Trump.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
7. The United States military
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 10:12 PM
Oct 2018

is NOT chartered to operate within CONUS. That is the purview of the National Guard. Military troops are a trained fighting force. The National Guard is security for the home front.

Putting that many armed personnel in a place already running high with tension is a recipe for trouble.

This man has screwed over not just active duty personnel, but his treatment of veterans is abysmal. His threats to privatize the V A has the majority of vets screaming in outrage. He trots out the military every time he wants to throw red meat to his base, but routinely damages them when he thinks no one is looking. We are just props to him.

What could possibly go wrong with this . . . . . . .

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
8. Senior military officers: translation
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 10:23 PM
Oct 2018

Boot licking, sycophants more loyal to their master, then they are to the US Constitution!!!

dflprincess

(28,082 posts)
9. Currently there are an estimated 4,000 people in the "caravan"
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 10:23 PM
Oct 2018

Trump is deploying 5,200 troops. That's over 1 soldier for every refugee. Apparently Spanky doesn't have a lot of faith in the military if he thinks it will take that many to deal with people, who, if they reach the U.S. border will have been walking over 2 months and will be tired and hungry.

ChazInAz

(2,572 posts)
14. Typical GOP name.
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 12:30 AM
Oct 2018

How about just using German, to give it that proper republican flavor:
"Operation treuer Patriot"

mia

(8,361 posts)
12. The right-wing, Trump-inspired, armed militia are salivating as we speak.
Tue Oct 30, 2018, 10:30 PM
Oct 2018
Self-appointed militia groups are planning to head to the Mexican border to help halt the caravan of Central American migrants heading to the US.

Border Patrol officials have already warned landowners in Texas that it expects “possible armed civilians” to go onto their properties because of the caravan.

The activists, who are raising money for their plan, are planning to arm themselves with guns and bulletproof vests in an effort to secure America’s border against the caravan of about 4,000 people.

Some people have posted dire warnings on Facebook about the caravan. One said it was “imperative that we have boots on the ground.” Another wrote: “War! Secure the border now!”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/migrant-caravan-us-armed-militia-groups-mexico-texas-border-trump-immigration-a8604371.html

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
15. Trump is using them
Wed Oct 31, 2018, 06:24 AM
Oct 2018

For another politically motivated PR stunt, but before he's gone he'll try to make them turn on us. He wants to overthrow this government , and has to have the military to help do it, so look for changes to promote only extreme loyalists into key positions soon. All veterans and present people in the military should be against this guy even more now.

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