a gun. That sounds like cop speak. I'm not buying that.

done shot a Good Guy with a gun?

arrest while he was fleeing and brandishing his gun.


He is also seen on closed circuit video camera, throwing a gum wrapper on the ground.

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while yelling, "Stop resisting."

Sometimes it is accompanied by other voices of bystanders pointing out, the guy ain't resisting.

You're blocking their ability to control their motor functions. How the hell do you expect them to roll over and put their hands behind their back?

Maybe the cop shot “the good guy with the gun” who was carrying. Do you think that is possible?

Tough to tell the good guys from the bad guys when everybody has a gun on them.

Alabama. Could have been.

[link:https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2018/11/man-killed-by-police-in-riverchase-galleria-shooting-now-identified-investigation-ongoing.html|

Earlier information, he said, is that two adult males – one of them 18 years old – got into a physical altercation in the mall area. “At least one of those individuals exchanged gunfire with the other,’’ Rector said. “The 18-year-old was struck. He was taken UAB with at least one wound. We believe he is in serious condition.”

After the initial gunfire, Rector said the person who shot the 18-year-old – now identified as Bradford - was fleeing the area when he was confronted by two Hoover police officers, who were in uniform. “One of our officers did engage that individual and shot him,’’ Rector said. “He was dead on the scene.”

“The Hoover police officer actually was running to the scene, he heard gunshots, he was obviously very near the scene, he actually shot and killed the person who injured the other person,’’ Rector said.

He said they do not know what started the initial fight. “We know they got into physical altercation. We know the deceased was armed with a handgun and we know he shot the person who was transported to UAB,’’ Rector said.

Shoot everyone first, and find out which is which after they're dead.

Police shot a “good guy with a gun”.

And killed him.

From Shaun King this morning:

————

My God.

American police just killed another "good guy with a gun."

Emantic Fitzgerald Bradford Jr., better known as EJ, the son of a police officer, was an active duty officer for the Army, home for Thanksgiving.

Murdered by police yesterday in a mall shooting in Alabama.

Not only did police in Hoover, Alabama murder EJ, for 24 hours they plastered his face all over the news saying he was the mass shooter.

They did a press conference saying they killed the shooter, showed his picture, then said the community was safe.

THE SHOOTER IS AT LARGE.

EJ's family and friends reached out to me this morning. They are not just devastated, they are furious.

Police publicly and local media both publicly blamed him for the mall shooting.

He never fired a single shot.

After police shot EJ, he was still alive, struggling.

Family and friends just sent me a horrendous video of police not only refusing to provide EJ first aid as he fought for his life, but literally abusing him on the ground thinking he was the mall shooter.

It was heartless.

EJ Bradford, Jr. was beloved all over Birmingham. This morning I have heard from neighbors, friends, even teachers from elementary to high school - who LOVED this man.

Served safely in the Army, then shot & killed by American police in Alabama while home for Thanksgiving. #JusticeForEJ

(EJ is on the right)

https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/photos/a.2073243256047915/2118793094826264/?type=3

Cite your source. I have photos of him in uniform.

More than one speaker referred to Bradford's military service. But while Bradford noted on his Facebook page that he was a US Army combat engineer, he never completed Advanced Individual Training and did not serve in the Army, Lt. Col. Manny Ortiz, an Army spokesman, told CNN.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/24/us/alabama-mall-hoover-shooting/index.html

long enough to complete it?

“Ej Bradford leaves today for Basic Training and AIT for 12B…..good luck EJ!!!! #armyteameastwood”

https://heavy.com/news/2018/11/emantic-ej-fitzgerald-bradford-jr/

Army basic training is 10 weeks, and (I looked it up) AIT for Combat Engineer is 14 weeks, so he could have been in long enough depending on when he started basic.

However, in my link it also says "Bradford was an Army combat engineer at 12 Bravo company, according to his Facebook. Soldiers who were friends have been posting condolences." so I don't know if that was still the training company.

I just wrote what CNN reported an Army officer had said. I wouldn't put it past the Army, however, to be doing damage control if one of their own was involved in a shooting. If it comes out that he was actually going after the shooter, I'd expect them to reverse their story.

[link:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6423265/New-video-shows-Alabama-mall-shooters-body-shot-dead-cops-gunning-children.html|

I would draw my weapon, but then I am white. So now it happens in a theater which is dark. Do you shoot anyone holding a weapon or wait to see what is actually happening? Now if I was Black, I would lie down and throw my weapon away.

It is not my job to engage any shooters

I have never been in that situation, nor any situation where weapons are being discharged except on the range once a year in 4 years in the army but I would hope that I would do everything I could.

had their guns out at the mall.

Remember, it's open carry down here. I was standing in line at the CVS pharmacy the other month, and the guy in front of me kept fidgeting with the gun in the back waistband of his jeans, taking it out and readjusting it.

As insane as it sounds, this story actually makes sense.