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Eugene

(61,899 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 05:37 PM Dec 2018

Trump demands border wall money; shutdown showdown nears

Source: Associated Press

By DARLENE SUPERVILLE
an hour ago

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday that Congress should provide all the money he wants for his promised U.S.-Mexico border wall, and he called illegal immigration a “threat to the well-being of every American community.”

Trump spoke hours after signing a short-term spending bill that covers key government departments for two more weeks, until Dec. 21, setting up a pre-Christmas showdown over the wall.

The president wants the next spending package to include at least $5 billion for the proposed wall. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California rejected that a day earlier.

At an appearance in Kansas City, Missouri, Trump accused Democrats of playing a political game, and said it was one that he ultimately would win.

-snip-


Read more: https://apnews.com/37597934930b48a39a51151c7dc3d7ff

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Trump demands border wall money; shutdown showdown nears (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2018 OP
My grandson demanded a new PS4 today also, told him no too. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #1
Well, he should be asking the Mexicans, then, not Congress. OnlinePoker Dec 2018 #2
trump is a liar .... he should be asking MEXICO not Congress. trueblue2007 Dec 2018 #4
You don't suppose republican Dirty Donny* was lying about that, do you? Achilleaze Dec 2018 #11
Donald, your party has both Houses of Congress. Quit blaming democrats for your party's failure to d keithbvadu2 Dec 2018 #3
He better get on the phone to Mexico & find out where their check is, then. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #5
I hear Mexico has a new President. Dave Starsky Dec 2018 #19
Fuck you and your shutdown you orange haired turd Augiedog Dec 2018 #6
Just tell him he spent all that money on that political stunt of sending troops to the border... toddwv Dec 2018 #7
Do we look Mexican? JohnnyRingo Dec 2018 #8
If he shuts down the government , he'll blame Democrats duforsure Dec 2018 #9
GOP will never "join in with the Dems & start impeaching him" as long as that evil SOB red dog 1 Dec 2018 #10
Bingo! joshdawg Dec 2018 #20
Pelosi can't stop Eddie Munster and Turtle-man from giving him "the proposed wall" red dog 1 Dec 2018 #12
He shouldn't get one red cent. Dave Starsky Dec 2018 #24
I agree red dog 1 Dec 2018 #25
Democrats can filibuster though John Fante Dec 2018 #29
No, they can't filibuster anymore red dog 1 Dec 2018 #31
Filibuster rso Dec 2018 #33
Didn't know that, thanks red dog 1 Dec 2018 #34
Democrats must not budge The Liberal Lion Dec 2018 #13
He is a coward, that's for sure. red dog 1 Dec 2018 #26
Trump should talk to Ryan and McConnell. They are in charge of Congress today. dalton99a Dec 2018 #14
Fucking joke thegoose Dec 2018 #15
Eat shit Racerdog1 Dec 2018 #16
Definition of political suicide: Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #17
He's not in a position to demand much of anything now Bayard Dec 2018 #18
I think Congress should put a provision in that says maxrandb Dec 2018 #21
The best "wall" would be to give the death penalty NCjack Dec 2018 #22
Attack white business owners? That'll be the day. John Fante Dec 2018 #32
Shutdown not such a bad idea -imho - prevent further damage and just keep holding pattern until the Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 2018 #23
+ 1 red dog 1 Dec 2018 #28
Hold your breath, toddler... Blue Owl Dec 2018 #27
I thought Mexico was gonna pay Botany Dec 2018 #30
Republicans don't understand the first thing about Shutdowns... BlueIdaho Dec 2018 #35
In the Senate he needs 3/5 to pass. It isn't going to happen. They don't have the votes. I still_one Dec 2018 #36
The fact they don't gave 60 votes gives them an out TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #38
It is fine with me if they want to use that as an excuse as long as the stupid waste of money wall still_one Dec 2018 #39
dems just need to employ the "Wimpy" strategy Takket Dec 2018 #37

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
2. Well, he should be asking the Mexicans, then, not Congress.
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 05:43 PM
Dec 2018

He said in the election it was a given that Mexico would pay for the wall.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
11. You don't suppose republican Dirty Donny* was lying about that, do you?
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:22 PM
Dec 2018


* aka republican Draft-dodger-in-Chief

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
3. Donald, your party has both Houses of Congress. Quit blaming democrats for your party's failure to d
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 05:44 PM
Dec 2018

Donald, your party has both Houses of Congress. Quit blaming democrats for your party's failure to do what you want.

You are their leader.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
19. I hear Mexico has a new President.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:43 AM
Dec 2018

The last one told him to go fuck himself, when Trump whined to him like a little baby on the phone.

Maybe he'll have better luck with the new guy.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
7. Just tell him he spent all that money on that political stunt of sending troops to the border...
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:00 PM
Dec 2018

No money left.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
8. Do we look Mexican?
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:01 PM
Dec 2018

Actually, a lot of us do, but that's beside the point.

I don't want to hand him or his asshole supporters this victory just out of principle. Why would I want to hear chants of USA! and "promises made, promises kept" from a bunch of morons for two years?

I really don't even care if there's a wall or not, but Trump's arrogance during the campaign ruined any chance that democrats or I would support it. Let him plunge the country into bankruptcy and recession then blame Nancy Pelosi for not succumbing to his childish demands. Good luck with that as election day nears.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
9. If he shuts down the government , he'll blame Democrats
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:12 PM
Dec 2018

But the Gop will join in with the Dems and start impeaching him knowing this is going to only hurt the country and the American people and their careers forever if they do nothing. They also know trump is dragging them to hell now.

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
10. GOP will never "join in with the Dems & start impeaching him" as long as that evil SOB
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:19 PM
Dec 2018

McTurtle is in charge over in the Senate.

He's every bit as evil as Shitler is.

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
12. Pelosi can't stop Eddie Munster and Turtle-man from giving him "the proposed wall"
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:25 PM
Dec 2018

they may reduce the amount he gets...it might not be $5 billion, but he will get funding for his frickin' wall...(just a guess)

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
25. I agree
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:05 PM
Dec 2018

He shouldn't get one red cent!
But the Repigs still control both houses of Congress, so he might get funding for his fucking wall as part of a GOP bill to fund the govt within the next week or so.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
29. Democrats can filibuster though
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:17 PM
Dec 2018

that's a big reason there hasn't been any wall funding in the first place.

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
31. No, they can't filibuster anymore
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:24 PM
Dec 2018

McConnell has instituted the "nuclear option" in the Senate, which is why Drumpf was easily able to put two ultra-right-wingers on the SCOTUS.

All McTurtle needs is 50 Senate votes to do anything he wants.

The reason the Liar-in-Chief hasn't gotten money for his wall so far is because the Repukes haven't mustered 50 Senate votes for it.

rso

(2,271 posts)
33. Filibuster
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 05:04 PM
Dec 2018

The nuclear option does not apply to budgetary issues. So Donnie would need 60 votes in the Senate, which he isn’t getting.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
13. Democrats must not budge
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 06:47 PM
Dec 2018

They can do nothing right now to stop the 'pubs. But they must not join them. Shut down of the government is the most desirable route. Stare that orange motherfucker down. He's a coward, he will blink.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
17. Definition of political suicide:
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:21 PM
Dec 2018
Shutting the government down FOUR DAYS before christmas.

Go ahead, Spanky, knock yourself out.

maxrandb

(15,330 posts)
21. I think Congress should put a provision in that says
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 10:01 AM
Dec 2018

"We are fully funding the wall as soon as we get a 25 billion $ cashier's check from Mexico"

We'd be helping Donnie Short Fingers keep his promise.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
22. The best "wall" would be to give the death penalty
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 11:35 AM
Dec 2018

to companies that hire illegal workers and jail time to the decision makers who hire them. That would cost a lot less than Trump's wall and would be more effective.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
32. Attack white business owners? That'll be the day.
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 03:26 PM
Dec 2018

Those companies skew Republican, and besides, undocumented immigrants are an indispensable part of our workforce. I'm sure even Mango Fuckwit knows this. Tightening up the border and a pathway to citizenship is the best fix. The ONLY fix. Birthrate trends in Latin America (plummeting) will take care of the rest

The wall, the family seperation, the tear gas - this is all about demonizing brown people. Nothing else.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
23. Shutdown not such a bad idea -imho - prevent further damage and just keep holding pattern until the
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 12:10 PM
Dec 2018

criminal element is removed from congress and presidency.

Trump throws that word around like its a bad thing! its not.

Best thing of course would be to be moving forward with progressive agenda.

WORST THING is whats going on now - single party republican control - barreliing through and passing far rw legislation at warp speed, with little or no no publicity or ability to stop it.

Holding pattern/keeping them in check IMHO is a vast improvement over whats going on now.

Bring it on Donald!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
35. Republicans don't understand the first thing about Shutdowns...
Sat Dec 8, 2018, 06:29 PM
Dec 2018

If You shut down the government - you get all the blame. End of story.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
36. In the Senate he needs 3/5 to pass. It isn't going to happen. They don't have the votes. I
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:47 AM
Dec 2018

suspect there are Senate republicans who will not go for this crap, and with time running out for the year, it will end up that the will kick the can down the road for the government budget, and next year the numbers are even worse for trump to get that wall passed, along with the fact that the Mueller report and perhaps other investigations will be going on, I suspect that trump will have more on his mind than that wall


TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
38. The fact they don't gave 60 votes gives them an out
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 01:01 PM
Dec 2018

They can toe the party line and for FOR the wall, knowing it has no chance of passing.

Perhaps this will be the new Obamacare repeal. I truly think that there are Republican senators who do not want to repeal Obamacare. They know that to repeal it without an adquate replacement would be a fiasco. But they go ahead and vote for repeal, over and over, knowing it will not pass.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
39. It is fine with me if they want to use that as an excuse as long as the stupid waste of money wall
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 01:23 PM
Dec 2018

isn't done



Takket

(21,568 posts)
37. dems just need to employ the "Wimpy" strategy
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 11:56 AM
Dec 2018

It worked great for Kim and his nukes!

“We will gladly fund your wall next week in exchange for a hamburger today”

Drumpf is a fucking idiot who will fall for anything.

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