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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:31 PM Dec 2018

Heisman winner Kyler Murray apologizes for anti-gay tweets

Source: Washington Post

Hours after winning the Heisman Trophy, Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray apologized for anti-gay tweets he made as a teenager, saying they don’t “reflect who I am or what I believe.”

“I apologize for the tweets that have come to light tonight from when I was 14 and 15,” he tweeted Sunday morning. “I used a poor choice of word that doesn’t reflect who I am or what I believe. I did not intend to single out any individual or group.”

The offensive tweets were deleted from his account late Saturday night. The tweets were deleted from his account late Saturday night, but screenshots of the tweets show Murray repeatedly using the word “queer” in conversations.

Murray, who passed for over 4,000 yards and 40 touchdowns, followed in the footsteps of Baker Mayfield, the Oklahoma quarterback who won the Heisman last December and now plays for the Cleveland Browns. Murray’s Sooners play Alabama in the College Football Playoff on Dec. 29.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/12/09/heisman-winner-kyler-murray-apologizes-anti-gay-tweets/

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Heisman winner Kyler Murray apologizes for anti-gay tweets (Original Post) oberliner Dec 2018 OP
Sure you did...or else you would not have said those words. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #1
The guy was 14. I don't find it hard to believe thfsat he may hold Drahthaardogs Dec 2018 #2
It is not like he is 20 years older and wiser. Ferrets are Cool Dec 2018 #5
kids are still learning at 14 and immature. JI7 Dec 2018 #20
14 year olds say all sorts of dumb things qazplm135 Dec 2018 #4
And the comments were made when he was 14 or 15 TexasBushwhacker Dec 2018 #10
So you have been perfect in every respect from the time you were born till now? Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #30
Are we really going to start looking at the tweets of teens qazplm135 Dec 2018 #3
A teachable moment, perhaps? oberliner Dec 2018 #6
That passed qazplm135 Dec 2018 #17
Isn't the acronym LBGTQ used quite often now in the gay community? brush Dec 2018 #7
It's $10 a month for unlimited access to all their articles oberliner Dec 2018 #9
I edited my original post. Pls see it now. brush Dec 2018 #11
Thanks oberliner Dec 2018 #34
White people should never use the n-word obamanut2012 Dec 2018 #14
My point exactly. brush Dec 2018 #15
yeah it was only anti gay stuff so its all ok now nt msongs Dec 2018 #8
Perhaps you didn't read his response Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #31
Once in awhile you gotta take somebody at their word. kaotikross Dec 2018 #12
I supported the Republicans when I was a teenager. Aristus Dec 2018 #13
How and when did your views about Muslims change? oberliner Dec 2018 #25
Very soon after that. Aristus Dec 2018 #26
That is a great story! oberliner Dec 2018 #28
I'm a big old queer, fag. I say accept his apology and move on. bitterross Dec 2018 #16
That seems to be what folks are doing oberliner Dec 2018 #24
Very well said Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #32
At 15, I thought the Iraq War was great and transgender people were faking it. Oneironaut Dec 2018 #18
Kids are dumb. They say and do dumb things. Coventina Dec 2018 #19
What is the punishment? oberliner Dec 2018 #23
I don't agree with what he said, but thank goodness there was no internet when I was a teenager. redstatebluegirl Dec 2018 #21
+1 fleabiscuit Dec 2018 #29
I never seem to have this problem JonLP24 Dec 2018 #22
Ah. The Bitch from Ft. Morgan Just a Weirdo Dec 2018 #35
Young males are stupid. fleabiscuit Dec 2018 #27
and along this line... orleans Dec 2018 #33

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
1. Sure you did...or else you would not have said those words.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:37 PM
Dec 2018

“I used a poor choice of word that doesn’t reflect who I am or what I believe. I did not intend to single out any individual or group.”

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
5. It is not like he is 20 years older and wiser.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:44 PM
Dec 2018

Why were those tweets still there. Believe what YOU want, I will believe what I want. Nuff said.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
4. 14 year olds say all sorts of dumb things
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:42 PM
Dec 2018

you did too. You just didn't have twitter around to capture them for posterity.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,219 posts)
10. And the comments were made when he was 14 or 15
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:52 PM
Dec 2018

Prejudice is rooted in fear. If a child is raised to fear gay people they will. As they mature and actually meet and get to know some gay people, that fear and prejudice usually disappears. It's one of the reasons young people are less into organized religion than older generations. They no longer buy into the whole gay = evil bullshit.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
3. Are we really going to start looking at the tweets of teens
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:42 PM
Dec 2018

after they've become adults?

Because that's a little bit silly.

brush

(53,871 posts)
7. Isn't the acronym LBGTQ used quite often now in the gay community?
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 12:49 PM
Dec 2018

Is the "q" word now like the "n-word" where it can only be used by the demographic segment it pertains to?

obamanut2012

(26,142 posts)
14. White people should never use the n-word
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 01:46 PM
Dec 2018

Straight folks should never use "queer" in that casual way that black folks use the nword. I'm a gay woman, and I would consider it very offensive.

kaotikross

(246 posts)
12. Once in awhile you gotta take somebody at their word.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 01:21 PM
Dec 2018

I know it isn't easy and we're all jaded because of the trump cabal's nonstop lies but I'm willing to believe this fellow. As to him not deleting the tweets until recently how often do you go back through all of your social media to check if you've said dumb things years previously? As a child of the 80's who grew up in a fairly rural 100% white area, it took me years to break myself from saying "that's gay" about something I felt was stupid or didn't like. It's not that I hated gays or even disliked them,and I had experimental bisexual experiences like many people and wasn't ashamed of it-not that I broadcast that either- it was simply something I had heard so much it became part of the vernacular and only later did I "get woke" enough to realize that words had that kind of power to hurt somebody. I suspect this fellows use of "queer" is much the same. It's a slang word that has become a generic insult more than an actual attitude about gays, especially among younger people who may not put as much forethought into their words as adults do. Now he's been informed, deleted the tweets, apologized and will hopefully put more care into his future comments. Everybody grows up and it sounds like he has.

I have edited this comment to add that almost everybody grows up. The man-baby in the White House has obviously not grown up because he's been coddled like an infant with Fort Knox at his disposal from birth. If he was confronted with such tweets he made years previously he'd deny he made them even when presented with evidence, call the people who found them "witch hunters", insult their gender, appearance, race, religion and personal wealth, call them schoolyard names- the standard trump dump, but the one thing he would NOT do is take responsibility and apologize. I doubt he'd even delete the tweets.

Aristus

(66,467 posts)
13. I supported the Republicans when I was a teenager.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 01:40 PM
Dec 2018

And during the Gulf War in 1991 (when I was 22), I wrote some ugly racist things about Muslims in letters to my father.

I feel terrible that I ever felt that way.

Aristus

(66,467 posts)
26. Very soon after that.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:47 PM
Dec 2018

I found some of the things I saw in Saudi Arabia to be very intriguing. So I read a lot of books about Islam, and my admiration for the faith and the vast majority of its followers grew by leaps and bounds. Every chance I had to talk with a Muslim about their faith, I made the best of. It changed my views substantially.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
16. I'm a big old queer, fag. I say accept his apology and move on.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 02:05 PM
Dec 2018

I AM actually a big old homo.

Seriously, are we really going to excoriate people for what they say as teenagers? There is no more vicious time in life than junior high and high school. Kids are horrible to one another. It is still not okay to be gay in most places and this guy grew up in TX. One of the most "not-okay-to-be-gay" places in the US. I'm not going to condemn him for trying to fit in.

Apology accepted Kyler.

Oneironaut

(5,525 posts)
18. At 15, I thought the Iraq War was great and transgender people were faking it.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 02:36 PM
Dec 2018

I cheered in 2004 when Bush beat Kerry.

Now, in my thirties, I’m completely anti-war and am transgender. lol

PS - My favorite word used to be the “F” word. I’m glad social media wasn’t around when I was a teenager. I hate that person (me at 15). Older me got my revenge, though. :-P

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
19. Kids are dumb. They say and do dumb things.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 02:39 PM
Dec 2018

While they should be corrected for it at the time, going back and punishing them for that stuff is not useful.

If he was still tweeting offensive things, that's different.

 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
35. Ah. The Bitch from Ft. Morgan
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 10:52 AM
Dec 2018

That's what I used to call her back then. Even though I didn't live in her district. I'm district 1. So my reps, no problem. Loved Schroeder and now DeGette.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
27. Young males are stupid.
Sun Dec 9, 2018, 05:54 PM
Dec 2018

Male brains don't really gel until they approach 24-26. We can talk them into doing stupid things too. I'll cut him some slack for being an idiot at 15, because he probably really was.

We'll see.

orleans

(34,074 posts)
33. and along this line...
Mon Dec 10, 2018, 03:16 AM
Dec 2018

"that's so gay" "you're so gay"
everything was "gay" when my kid was in jr. high and high school.
and i have gay friends. she knows them. she knew them back then and liked them.
and *she* had gay friends!

it drove me fucking crazy.

you tell them a hundred times to knock it off, you tell them over and over again why they should knock it off.

it didn't matter. they all used the "gay" expression as if their brains couldn't draw a correlation from the phrase to people or friends who were gay.

and what they actually meant was: "that's so lame" "you're so weird/stupid/crazy/funny" but for years it came out as "gay"

glad that phase eventually passed

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