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brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 06:04 PM Dec 2018

Beto O'Rourke narrowly tops wide-open MoveOn 2020 presidential straw poll; Biden is runner-up

Source: NBC News

An early straw poll of members of the progressive group MoveOn.org shows a wide-open competition for liberal voters in the 2020 Democratic presidential contest, with Rep. Beto O'Rourke narrowly beating out former Vice President Joe Biden.

The poll, obtained by NBC News, shows a plurality of respondents — 29 percent — either said they did not yet know whom they would support or wanted someone else not listed among the group's more than 30 potential candidate choices.

The most popular potential candidate was O’Rourke, D-Texas, who was selected by 15.6 percent of respondents, followed by Biden at 14.9 percent, and then Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., with 13.1 percent.

It's another sign of O’Rourke's surprising popularity among national Democrats and a potentially troubling indication for Sanders, whom MoveOn endorsed in the 2016 Democratic primary. That year, 78 percent of MoveOn members voted to back Sanders over Hillary Clinton

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/beto-o-rourke-narrowly-tops-moveon-2020-presidential-straw-poll-n946501

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Beto O'Rourke narrowly tops wide-open MoveOn 2020 presidential straw poll; Biden is runner-up (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2018 OP
I'll say it KentuckyWoman Dec 2018 #1
Actually, the top finisher was someone else oberliner Dec 2018 #2
Because essentially no one has announced. This is still significant coming from moveon still_one Dec 2018 #5
The person who finished first was Beto O'Rourke. George II Dec 2018 #9
No, the top finisher was someone else oberliner Dec 2018 #15
Someone else/DK/other: 28.8 percent CountAllVotes Dec 2018 #23
The link doesn't present the results the way Moveon.org published them... George II Dec 2018 #24
That list also shows someone else in first oberliner Dec 2018 #31
Only if you go by the assumption that the undecided voters, "Don't know", are only 2.2% George II Dec 2018 #34
Some folks aren't going to like this still_one Dec 2018 #3
My top 3 are... Dopers_Greed Dec 2018 #4
Great choices Obvious85 Dec 2018 #6
Here are my top 2: StevieM Dec 2018 #7
Since we're doing Top 3s DrToast Dec 2018 #13
Good to know! Cha Dec 2018 #8
This explains why so many Bernie supporters came out swinging against Beto O'Rourke Cha Dec 2018 #10
Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2018 #14
No swinging, only concern that it's too early to be hitching all our wagons to anyone. guruoo Dec 2018 #17
Yeah, swinging and missing.. it BACKFIRED. Cha Dec 2018 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2018 #30
Thanks elleng Dec 2018 #26
U Welcome guruoo Dec 2018 #29
As usual. elleng Dec 2018 #35
I think that article is incorrect. Revolution Messaging is primarily a media organization... George II Dec 2018 #32
I just went to moveon and added my vote! ananda Dec 2018 #11
Beto signs are still up in my neighborhood. McCamy Taylor Dec 2018 #12
Got my Beto gear in the mail this week.. jcgoldie Dec 2018 #16
That hat looks like it's been worn for a few years! George II Dec 2018 #33
Not Bernie? MineralMan Dec 2018 #18
Deep bench, too earily guruoo Dec 2018 #19
Trump will not be the GOP nominee. MineralMan Dec 2018 #20
We're gonna see Beto vs. Cruz again Polybius Dec 2018 #25
Won't sit well with Putin n/t guruoo Dec 2018 #36
Current bright shinny object dembotoz Dec 2018 #22
Sorry, but I'm interested in knowing Beto's RECORD. He can give great speeches. I'd like to know Doitnow Dec 2018 #27
Joe. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #28

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
1. I'll say it
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 06:08 PM
Dec 2018

I like Biden fine, but I hope to have fresher options in the primary. If he were chosen I'd have no trouble supporting him in the general.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. The link doesn't present the results the way Moveon.org published them...
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 11:09 PM
Dec 2018

Below are Moveon.org's results. Inasmuch as the lowest % is 0.1%, that "Someone Else" (or Elses) had less than 0.1% so "Don't Know" is the winner - as I said the person who finished first was Beto O'Rourke.

Someone Else / Don’t Know 17.89%
Beto O’Rourke 15.60%
Joe Biden 14.95%
Bernie Sanders 13.15%
Kamala Harris 10.02%
Elizabeth Warren 6.42%
Sherrod Brown 2.92%
Amy Klobuchar 2.75%
Michael Bloomberg 2.71%
Cory Booker 2.63%
Joseph Kennedy III 1.90%
Stacey Abrams 1.16%
Kirsten Gillibrand 1.09%
Tulsi Gabbard 0.78%
John Hickenlooper 0.71%
Eric Holder 0.59%
Eric Swalwell 0.54%
Julián Castro 0.48%
Jeff Merkley 0.42%
Jay Inslee 0.38%
Andrew Gillum 0.36%
Mitch Landrieu 0.35%
Chris Murphy 0.33%
Tom Steyer 0.28%
Marianne Williamson 0.26%
Deval Patrick 0.24%
Eric Garcetti 0.20%
Richard Ojeda 0.18%
Steve Bullock 0.17%
Pete Buttigieg 0.12%
John Delaney 0.11%
Bill de Blasio 0.10%
Howard Schultz 0.10%
Terry McAuliffe 0.10%

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
31. That list also shows someone else in first
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 08:41 AM
Dec 2018

Though not by as many points.

And it has Biden much closer to O'Rourke which is interesting.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
4. My top 3 are...
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 06:13 PM
Dec 2018

1. Kamala Harris
2. Sherrod Brown
3. Beto O'Rourke

Goes without saying, but I'll support whoever the nominee is, even if they don't "excite" me.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
13. Since we're doing Top 3s
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 07:49 PM
Dec 2018

1. Beto O'Rourke
2. Amy Klobuchar
3. Sherrod Brown (although I think losing his Senate seat could be very bad)

 

guruoo

(5,092 posts)
17. No swinging, only concern that it's too early to be hitching all our wagons to anyone.
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:22 PM
Dec 2018

And Bernie has said he'd be willing to support whomever seems to have the best chance of defeating Trump.

Oh yeah, I forgot about this:

Beto O’Rourke Hits Pay Dirt With Bernie Sanders Money Machine

The Democratic Senate nominee raked in $6.7 million and paid more than $2.6 million to former Sanders fundraisers.

Through his February 14 campaign finance report, O’Rourke declared that he has spent $2.6 million for online fundraising services to Revolution Messaging, a progressive operation run by former members of Bernie Sanders’s 2016 campaign for president. O’Rourke told me that he paid no attention to the company’s past clients when he hired them, only what the company and its people could do for his campaign.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/beto-orourke-hits-paydirt-bernie-sanders-money-machine/







Response to Cha (Reply #21)

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. I think that article is incorrect. Revolution Messaging is primarily a media organization...
Wed Dec 12, 2018, 10:03 AM
Dec 2018

...although they do some fundraising. According to O'Rourke's FEC filings, they didn't use Revolution Messaging for "Fundraising" (zero expenditures in that category) That $2.6 million probably was for digital advertising, their specialty.


MineralMan

(146,312 posts)
18. Not Bernie?
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:33 PM
Dec 2018

MoveOn is not predictive of Democratic voters at large. This early straw poll is meaningless, even to MoveOn. 30% had no preference. "Someone Else" was the winner by a wide margin.

 

guruoo

(5,092 posts)
19. Deep bench, too earily
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 09:40 PM
Dec 2018

They all look good to me at this point.

Bernie has said he'd step aside and support someone else if they have a better chance of beating Trump.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
27. Sorry, but I'm interested in knowing Beto's RECORD. He can give great speeches. I'd like to know
Tue Dec 11, 2018, 11:40 PM
Dec 2018

what he's been doing for ordinary people for the last 5 or 10 years. Maybe plenty. I'd just like to know and probably so would lots of other folks. So, tell us. We don't need someone on a learner's permit just now.

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