Trump Admin Moves To Officially Ban Bump Stocks
Source: Talking Points Memo/The AP
By MICHAEL BALSAMO
December 18, 2018 11:15 am
WASHINGTON (AP) The Trump administration moved Tuesday to officially ban bump stocks, which allow semi-automatic weapons to fire rapidly like automatic firearms, and has made them illegal to possess beginning in late March.
The devices will be banned under a federal law that prohibits machine guns, according to a senior Justice Department official.
Bump stocks became a focal point of the national gun control debate after they were used in October 2017 when a man opened fired from his Las Vegas hotel suite into a crowd at a country music concert below, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.
The regulation, which was signed by Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker on Tuesday morning, will go into effect 90 days after it is formally published in the Federal Register, which is expected to happen on Friday, the Justice Department official said.
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Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)Aristus
(66,388 posts)Unless his dementia is causing him to actually do good things. In which case, he's a lot further gone than we thought...
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,924 posts)The Gun Owners of America said they will file a challenge in court. I would expect others to jump on-board as well.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Bengus81
(6,931 posts)KCDebbie
(664 posts)The cluster-phuck they are facing from Mueller...
Let's NOT fall for it!
Kaleva
(36,310 posts)Nor are the Dems in the House such as Adam Schiff.
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)When Mueller slides down his chimney with a bag of "good clean" coal, he's hoping for some sympathy.
sl8
(13,787 posts)There's a rough timeline here :
https://www.regulations.gov/docket?D=ATF-2018-0001
It does seem awfully slow, but I don't know if it's atypical.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)For the upcoming Make America Great Again civil war.
djacq
(1,634 posts)This is the GOP's best?
How about Assault Weapons Ban + Universal Background Checks?
Go Bold!
Initech
(100,080 posts)And this is one thing I will applaud them on.
But still - fuck the NRA!
Bob Loblaw
(1,900 posts)Think the NRA will ever utter that sentiment?
ansible
(1,718 posts)Here's the official ATF wording for it btw.
usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)BUT! Someone remind who was it that was going to TAKE our guns and gun rights.
The rubes have been had again.
watoos
(7,142 posts)The only place where it makes sense to use it was out of that Las Vegas hotel window. Why would anyone want to shoot his rifle faster with less accuracy? It's no good for target practice.
It's like a Slinky, it was a piece of shit. I could never get it to make it go the whole way down the stairs. A Slinky never helped kill anyone though.
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)20 toy related deaths in 2005, including:
A 5 year old became entangled in a slinky and ribbon and strangled.
And also proof that Edna in the Incredibles was right, a 9 year old jumped off a bunk bed and the cape of his costume caught on the bedpost.
You are correct though on the fact that bump stocks are a piece of shit - there is no practical use for them. There is no need for a wannabe machine gun.
Kaleva
(36,310 posts)There's a reason the military will never go back to semi-auto only.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)Speaking as a veteran (Good Conduct Medal 3rd Award - I got out two months before I would have received my 4th), there is absolutely no reason for a civilian to own a full-auto weapon.
Kaleva
(36,310 posts)Your comment:
" It's no good for target practice. "
An irrelevant statement as accuracy isn't the goal of auto fire or near auto fire now is it?
Maybe you could explain why auto fire is a good thing to have in certain situations?
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)Let's say I'm trying to move an infantry squad to contact. It'll work much better if I don't have the enemy killing us while we're trying to kill them...so I have my squad machine gunner fire his M249 (which only fires full auto) over the squad's head in the direction of the enemy. This will cause them to take cover and either not fire back at all, or fire erratically in hopes of causing us to take cover too.
If we're on the receiving end of an enemy assault, my M249 gunner will be able to kill them in greater quantities than my troops firing singles would be able to.
Now understand: I absolutely LOVE to fire full auto. It is the most fun thing you can do in the Army. It's also something that should stay in the Army.
Kaleva
(36,310 posts)Here's a post of mine from back in 2013:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022141644
The video is no longer available nor does the link work.
Edit: forgot to say your post was excellent.
Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)I was only qualified with the M-14 June 1964. On full auto you were off target after 5 rounds at most.
Kaleva
(36,310 posts)ansible
(1,718 posts)I think this might actually do Trump in more than anything else.
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)handing out Russian money in Washington.
Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)The NRA is no longer as valuable to Putin or tRump, nor it can it readily resist.
IronLionZion
(45,454 posts)I'm all in favor of banning bump stocks, but that's not the problem.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)... they are losing their damn minds. Many crying TYRANNY and saying that they will support a primary challenge against Trump.
Quite a self-goal there.
Kaleva
(36,310 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,034 posts)Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)mpcamb
(2,871 posts)The NRA is on the ropes with legal costs up the wazoo.
They're hiding in the long grass.
That only leaves the full-fledged yahoos scattered throughout the land.
Not even a voting bloc.
Simply trump, trying to fake rational behavior...