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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:32 PM Dec 2018

Trump Admin Moves To Officially Ban Bump Stocks

Source: Talking Points Memo/The AP



By MICHAEL BALSAMO

December 18, 2018 11:15 am

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration moved Tuesday to officially ban bump stocks, which allow semi-automatic weapons to fire rapidly like automatic firearms, and has made them illegal to possess beginning in late March.

The devices will be banned under a federal law that prohibits machine guns, according to a senior Justice Department official.

Bump stocks became a focal point of the national gun control debate after they were used in October 2017 when a man opened fired from his Las Vegas hotel suite into a crowd at a country music concert below, killing 58 people and injuring hundreds more in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

The regulation, which was signed by Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker on Tuesday morning, will go into effect 90 days after it is formally published in the Federal Register, which is expected to happen on Friday, the Justice Department official said.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-admin-bump-stocks-ban

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Trump Admin Moves To Officially Ban Bump Stocks (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2018 OP
About damned time!! Will the NRA try to fight this, considering the shape they are in currently? Arkansas Granny Dec 2018 #1
I was thinking that Trump's checks from the NRA bounced or just stopped showing up. Aristus Dec 2018 #22
No word yet from the NRA, but a different group has already announced they will challenge it DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 2018 #30
Wow, some friggin' SANITY from the WH ... how ... refreshing (nt) mr_lebowski Dec 2018 #2
Why NOW after over a year? Bengus81 Dec 2018 #3
This is the SHINY THING they will use to distract from KCDebbie Dec 2018 #5
Mueller, the NY AG, the SDNY AG office are not distracted. Kaleva Dec 2018 #21
Dotard is a kid being good for Christmas forgotmylogin Dec 2018 #9
The process started a year ago. sl8 Dec 2018 #19
Give his deplorable army time enough to stock up LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #28
NRA $30 Million Contribution plus Russia Money Laundering to Trump djacq Dec 2018 #4
Took them long enough! Initech Dec 2018 #6
Republicans are coming for your guns Bob Loblaw Dec 2018 #7
Nah they'll just take it like the cucks they are ansible Dec 2018 #13
I totally agree with banning this aftermarket device. The bump stock. usaf-vet Dec 2018 #8
What a joke. The bump stock is a piece of shit. watoos Dec 2018 #10
Never say never... LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #12
I don't think you have any idea of the purpose of full or near full auto. Kaleva Dec 2018 #17
The military doesn't hang horseshit like "bump stocks" on their firearms jmowreader Dec 2018 #24
That's not the arguement you made in your other post. Kaleva Dec 2018 #25
Full auto is for suppressive fire and mass killing jmowreader Dec 2018 #27
I agree. I've been arguing against bump fire stocks here at DU for years. Kaleva Dec 2018 #29
Don't know about modern weapons. Cold War Spook Dec 2018 #31
On full auto, you aren't aiming for one particular target anyways. Kaleva Dec 2018 #34
The MAGA meltdown over this is fucking hilarious ansible Dec 2018 #11
I guess the NRA is no longer Mr.Bill Dec 2018 #14
Now that NRA is near bankruptcy & tainted by its Russian collusian, Putin probably let tRump act. Julian Englis Dec 2018 #15
How many mass shootings have we had with bump stocks? just Las Vegas? IronLionZion Dec 2018 #16
I visited by favorite gun nut site.... Adrahil Dec 2018 #18
I see that at FR too. Kaleva Dec 2018 #20
The NRA can't be too happy. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 #23
OMG! tRump is coming for your guns! Va Lefty Dec 2018 #26
With about 90% public support (among the rational) hardly a bold move. mpcamb Dec 2018 #32
Link to the DopJ PR nitpicker Dec 2018 #33

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
22. I was thinking that Trump's checks from the NRA bounced or just stopped showing up.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:03 PM
Dec 2018

Unless his dementia is causing him to actually do good things. In which case, he's a lot further gone than we thought...

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
30. No word yet from the NRA, but a different group has already announced they will challenge it
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 06:02 PM
Dec 2018

The Gun Owners of America said they will file a challenge in court. I would expect others to jump on-board as well.

 

KCDebbie

(664 posts)
5. This is the SHINY THING they will use to distract from
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:49 PM
Dec 2018

The cluster-phuck they are facing from Mueller...

Let's NOT fall for it!

Kaleva

(36,310 posts)
21. Mueller, the NY AG, the SDNY AG office are not distracted.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:54 PM
Dec 2018

Nor are the Dems in the House such as Adam Schiff.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
9. Dotard is a kid being good for Christmas
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:14 PM
Dec 2018

When Mueller slides down his chimney with a bag of "good clean" coal, he's hoping for some sympathy.

djacq

(1,634 posts)
4. NRA $30 Million Contribution plus Russia Money Laundering to Trump
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 12:45 PM
Dec 2018

This is the GOP's best?

How about Assault Weapons Ban + Universal Background Checks?

Go Bold!

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
8. I totally agree with banning this aftermarket device. The bump stock.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 01:51 PM
Dec 2018

BUT! Someone remind who was it that was going to TAKE our guns and gun rights.

The rubes have been had again.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
10. What a joke. The bump stock is a piece of shit.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:18 PM
Dec 2018

The only place where it makes sense to use it was out of that Las Vegas hotel window. Why would anyone want to shoot his rifle faster with less accuracy? It's no good for target practice.

It's like a Slinky, it was a piece of shit. I could never get it to make it go the whole way down the stairs. A Slinky never helped kill anyone though.

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
12. Never say never...
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:33 PM
Dec 2018
https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/pdfs/toymemo05.pdf

20 toy related deaths in 2005, including:

A 5 year old became entangled in a slinky and ribbon and strangled.

And also proof that Edna in the Incredibles was right, a 9 year old jumped off a bunk bed and the cape of his costume caught on the bedpost.


You are correct though on the fact that bump stocks are a piece of shit - there is no practical use for them. There is no need for a wannabe machine gun.

Kaleva

(36,310 posts)
17. I don't think you have any idea of the purpose of full or near full auto.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:28 PM
Dec 2018

There's a reason the military will never go back to semi-auto only.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
24. The military doesn't hang horseshit like "bump stocks" on their firearms
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 04:55 PM
Dec 2018

Speaking as a veteran (Good Conduct Medal 3rd Award - I got out two months before I would have received my 4th), there is absolutely no reason for a civilian to own a full-auto weapon.

Kaleva

(36,310 posts)
25. That's not the arguement you made in your other post.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:14 PM
Dec 2018

Your comment:

" It's no good for target practice. "

An irrelevant statement as accuracy isn't the goal of auto fire or near auto fire now is it?

Maybe you could explain why auto fire is a good thing to have in certain situations?

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
27. Full auto is for suppressive fire and mass killing
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:52 PM
Dec 2018

Let's say I'm trying to move an infantry squad to contact. It'll work much better if I don't have the enemy killing us while we're trying to kill them...so I have my squad machine gunner fire his M249 (which only fires full auto) over the squad's head in the direction of the enemy. This will cause them to take cover and either not fire back at all, or fire erratically in hopes of causing us to take cover too.

If we're on the receiving end of an enemy assault, my M249 gunner will be able to kill them in greater quantities than my troops firing singles would be able to.

Now understand: I absolutely LOVE to fire full auto. It is the most fun thing you can do in the Army. It's also something that should stay in the Army.

Kaleva

(36,310 posts)
29. I agree. I've been arguing against bump fire stocks here at DU for years.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 05:57 PM
Dec 2018

Here's a post of mine from back in 2013:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022141644

The video is no longer available nor does the link work.

Edit: forgot to say your post was excellent.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
31. Don't know about modern weapons.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 08:48 PM
Dec 2018

I was only qualified with the M-14 June 1964. On full auto you were off target after 5 rounds at most.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
11. The MAGA meltdown over this is fucking hilarious
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:26 PM
Dec 2018


I think this might actually do Trump in more than anything else.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
15. Now that NRA is near bankruptcy & tainted by its Russian collusian, Putin probably let tRump act.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 02:59 PM
Dec 2018

The NRA is no longer as valuable to Putin or tRump, nor it can it readily resist.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
16. How many mass shootings have we had with bump stocks? just Las Vegas?
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:01 PM
Dec 2018

I'm all in favor of banning bump stocks, but that's not the problem.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
18. I visited by favorite gun nut site....
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 03:33 PM
Dec 2018

... they are losing their damn minds. Many crying TYRANNY and saying that they will support a primary challenge against Trump.

Quite a self-goal there.

mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
32. With about 90% public support (among the rational) hardly a bold move.
Tue Dec 18, 2018, 09:05 PM
Dec 2018

The NRA is on the ropes with legal costs up the wazoo.
They're hiding in the long grass.
That only leaves the full-fledged yahoos scattered throughout the land.
Not even a voting bloc.

Simply trump, trying to fake rational behavior...

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