Mueller may submit report to attorney general as soon as mid-February, say sources
Source: NBC News
WASHINGTON Special counsel Robert Mueller is nearing the end of his historic investigation into Russian election interference and is expected to submit a confidential report to the attorney general as early as mid-February, government officials and others familiar with the situation tell NBC News.
"They clearly are tying up loose ends," said a lawyer who has been in contact with the Mueller team.
The sources either did not know or would not say whether Mueller has answered the fundamental question he was hired to investigate: Whether Trump or anyone around him conspired with the Russian intelligence operations to help his campaign.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna949961?__twitter_impression=true
George II
(67,782 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Hmmmmm. Or maybe he'll hand it off to the House?
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)wishstar
(5,269 posts)Ken who reported this story was on MSNBC stating that the timeline given by Mueller to DOJ gives no details about indictments or anything specific but just a heads up to DOJ to be prepared for Mueller wrapping things up by mid-February so DOJ has general idea to plan for future activity expected.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)turned in around that time. It sounded definite, so I guess I assumed. Didn't realize it was another Guliani-like estimate.
Phew. That makes me feel better.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)that things could complicate Mueller's plan to write the report by February.
The bottom line is that nowhere in the story does it say someone from Mueller's team told Dilanian any of this. And why should we believe anyone on Team Trump?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)This means nothing.
LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)(THREAD) Tonight's NBC News report claiming Mueller is almost done with his investigation is false. This thread explains why. Please RETWEET if you'd like our media to stop publishing anonymously sourced stories of this sort that clearly do not use Mueller or his team as sources.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1075904536877912064.html
2/ The sourcing for this false story never changes. The first source(s): "government officials," i.e. members of the administration, which habitually lies about Mueller's work. The second source(s): lawyers for those Trump associates who've been before the grand jury. Same issue.
3/ Tonight's report uses recycled quotesor, the same quotes from the same sources who were wrong last time. The seventh time this false story was published we were told Mueller was "tying up loose ends"exactly the quote we got *this* time, too. It's no more true now than then.
4/ The report hedges so many bets it doesn't even *mean* anything. The hed says Mueller could issue a report "as soon as February"another way of saying, "Don't be upset with us if it's *late 2019* instead, because we *did* say 'as soon as February' not 'in February,' after all."
5/ The report's euphemisms cover weak sourcing. Its key source is "a lawyer who's been in contact with the Mueller team"which makes you think s/he got the skinny *from* Mueller. Nopeit's just a lawyer for a witness, who was "in contact" with Mueller's team as part of their job.
6/ The report has *zero* info from Mueller's leak-free teama fact it's at great pains to hide from you. It says Mueller is "expected to" send a report to DOJ "as soon as" Februaryneglecting to mention that the folks who have these "expectations" *have no basis for them at all*.
7/ The sources' rationale for their expectations is just rehashed legal analysis. Former prosecutors on TV have saidrightlythat the feds try to end a cooperator's cooperation before their sentencing. But Trump-Russia experts have saidrightlythis case won't follow that model.
8/ All of the evidence we haveevery scrap of itsays Mueller has many months to go. EXAMPLE 1: Indictments are still expected (including *by the defendants themselves*) forat a *minimum*Donald Trump Jr., Erik Prince, Roger Stone, Jerome Corsi, Randy Credico, and Paul Erickson.
9/ EXAMPLE 2: Mueller, his team, or affiliated federal prosecutors just sat down with Manafort and Cohen for a total of 130+ hoursyes, you read that right. According to tonight's NBC News report, those 130+ hours were *meaningless*they're not producing any new charges or leads.
10/ EXAMPLE 3: Mueller just opened up a new front in his investigation: the "grand bargain" Trump struck pre-election to collude with not just Russia but Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Israel, and possibly several other nations. You don't open a new front when you're about to close shop.
11/ EXAMPLE 4: It was just reported that Mueller is fightingand winningan effort to get a foreign corp to *begin* production of a huge stock of relevant records currently being held overseas. If he's still working on getting *core documents* for his case, how is he almost done?
12/ EXAMPLE 5: It was just reported that Mueller wants a sitdown with Trumpmeaning he has unanswered questions on collusion he thinks Trump has the answers to. If/when Trump fights this request, that fight *alone* will take *months* to play outand will forestall a final report.
13/ The report *admits* its sources are bad. Per the report, its sources "either didn't know or wouldn't say whether Mueller has answered the fundamental question he was hired to investigate." So they know he's almost donebut not how far along his work is? How does *that* track?
14/ The report's rehashed legal analysis is *wrong*. It says "one sign Mueller is close to finishing is he has moved forward with the sentencing of those he credited with substantial cooperation." There are many reasons he might do this; in the next tweet I'll offer two key ones.
15/ REASON 1: Any witness who cooperated with Mueller will be charged with Perjury or Making False Statements if they deviate from their story on the stand later on. This holds even if they've been sentenced. REASON 2: The probe could take *years* and judges won't wait that long.
16/ If the report were accurate, it'd be to the Mueller team's benefit to comment on itbut they won't. Trump is positioning Whitaker or Barr to thwart (or fire) Muellerand one way he could survive would be to say he's almost done. Given the chance to do so by NBC, he *refused*.
17/ The report's sources are *bound* to say what they did. If you represent an uncharged Trump ally, your spin must be that he *won't* be charged. Thus: "Defense lawyers in the case have been talking among themselves about their belief that the investigation is coming to an end."
18/ Sentences like this are just bad journalism: "The sources who spoke to NBC News warn that a few major outstanding matters could complicate Mueller's endgame." The sources have no *clue* what Mueller's endgame isand admit ityet they're now topping ignorance with speculation?
19/ When the sources top their ignorance with speculation, they move*every time*to *eliminate* the supposed scoop they gave to NBC. Thus, "A few major outstanding matters could complicate..." So we already hedged on Februarywith "as soon as"and now we're hedging on our hedge.
20/ Upshot: following the Trump-Russia case is a full-time job, and many peopleincluding many who are pundits on the subjectsimply don't have the subject down. So what we get instead are these desperate "Uh, okay, but maybe it's almost over?" stories that are just embarrassing.
PS/ Note that even if this false story were truethat Mueller *could* (only could!) be done by February, which is 2 months awayit doesn't mean the public would see a *report* then. Thus, NBC News' biggest hedge: "it would not be an easy process [to ever make the report public]."
PS2/ The combined effect of these false stories about Mueller's work is to bolster the Trumpist delusion that Mueller has come up empty. Such reports make the Mueller probe seem relatively simplerather than dozens of interweaving narratives that are all still being investigated.
PS3/ I've seen the ill effect of these false stories firsthand. Publishers are holding off publishing books on Trump's misconduct on the false belieffueled by bad sourcingthat Mueller may soon issue a report. He won'tbut try convincing folks otherwise when NBC's playing along.
PS4/ And that's exactly why White House and Trumpist-defense-lawyer sources are pumping this false story for now the *eighth* time: (1) they know their lies will be repeated uncritically, and (2) it is *enormously* beneficial for their clients for this false story to be believed.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)you beat me to it
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)we've heard these "anonymous" sources many times since Mueller started, and it is usually somebody in the White House tied to Trump.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Mueller runs a tight ship. These "sources" know nothing.
BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,002 posts)Nitram
(22,801 posts)Maximum damage.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)confirm there is a timeline at DoJ for actions that need to be taken.
I enjoy Seth Abrahams' threads, but I also keep in mind he is putting out his own legal and personal opinions just like everyone else who only have seen the tip of the iceberg.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)that the House could supoena the report or have Mueller testify before the Judiciary committee what he learned.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I'm pretty sure the rules or law would not allow such a report to be kept secret in the DOJ and White House. But I don't know for a fact. I hope so.