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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 10:20 AM Dec 2018

Giuliani rips Mueller: 'It's time to put up or shut up'

Source: The Hill


BY JOHN BOWDEN - 12/30/18 07:00 AM EST

President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani is seeking to put pressure on special counsel Robert Mueller to submit his report on whether the investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia has found collusion, saying Mueller should "put up or shut up."

In an interview with New York radio host John Catsimatidis airing Sunday, Giuliani claimed that Mueller's team has known since "May or June" that there is no evidence to support the allegation that members of Trump's campaign knowingly worked with Russians during the 2016 election.

“It should have been wrapped up probably in May or June. That’s when they figured out they had no evidence of collusion," Giuliani asserted, adding, "Collusion is not a crime, by the way."

"You have to show a conspiracy to hack [the Democratic National Committee]," he added. "They don’t have any evidence of that - which is the reason they don’t submit a report, because they are embarrassed."

Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/423194-giuliani-rips-mueller-its-time-to-put-up-or-shut-up

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Giuliani rips Mueller: 'It's time to put up or shut up' (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2018 OP
Just you wait Mr Rudy, just you wait. wasupaloopa Dec 2018 #1
You'll be sorry but your tears will be too late. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #26
Love a good show tune reference! Maeve Dec 2018 #29
Tears of a clown dot dot dot. n/t sprinkleeninow Dec 2018 #56
Yup, as the old saying goes... be careful what you wish for. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #34
LOL! Good one! nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #50
Telling Mueller, who never says *anything* about the case, to shut up tblue37 Dec 2018 #2
My first thought, too. Harker Dec 2018 #18
This isn't on your timeline, Rudy True Dough Dec 2018 #3
Mueller replies, "That's nice dear," and ignores him. Squinch Dec 2018 #4
+100 sakabatou Dec 2018 #28
OMG Giggles this early? That was priceless and akraven Dec 2018 #37
😆 sprinkleeninow Dec 2018 #57
Sounds like Rudy has his Turbineguy Dec 2018 #5
Someone should tell this senile ghoul Bilegurken Dec 2018 #6
Ahh Shaddup EricMaundry Dec 2018 #7
My exact thought. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #39
The last time he pulled that ultimatum thing Mueller filed a few indictments. George II Dec 2018 #8
So, get back to Her emails? rickford66 Dec 2018 #9
Or what, Rudolph? NBachers Dec 2018 #10
He and Trump are going to take the Republican Party down with them. RDANGELO Dec 2018 #11
The New York FBI office leaked information to Giuliani PJMcK Dec 2018 #17
It's got to be more that that. RDANGELO Dec 2018 #22
"I'm a cyber!" -- Rudy Giuliani, Really Qualified Cybersecurity CEO Person Who Is Qualified FreepFryer Dec 2018 #52
Rudy is thrashing about in the roiling waters like a shipwreck victim Mr. Ected Dec 2018 #12
"When you yell you're going to drown, I'll get dressed and go to town... lapucelle Dec 2018 #54
Yeah, There Is No Collusion DallasNE Dec 2018 #13
"I would not want to be in the shoes of Stone or Trump." PJMcK Dec 2018 #19
careful what you wish for, ghoul... shanny Dec 2018 #14
Good thing Mueller is wearing kevlar truth and fact clothes. ananda Dec 2018 #15
Perhaps Orson Welles can explain it to you, Rudy. Dave Starsky Dec 2018 #16
Well Rudy, that's gonna come back to bite ya onetexan Dec 2018 #20
Hey Rudi ever here this song................do you feel the heat.................... turbinetree Dec 2018 #21
Hey Rudy, shut up! Firestorm49 Dec 2018 #23
Motor mouth is Ghouliani. Robert Mueller has said almost nothing. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2018 #24
HELL just plead GUILTY(YOU know you are) NOW, THEN bluestarone Dec 2018 #25
Mueller has not interviewed Giuliani. Could be be a target (b/c of the NY FBI leak thing)? nt tblue37 Dec 2018 #27
Heaven forfend! (n/t) FreepFryer Dec 2018 #53
The time for Giuliani to quit being a bullying blowhard has long passed. N/T Guilded Lilly Dec 2018 #30
You're not the boss of him, Rudy. Go get your teeth whitened. (nt) Paladin Dec 2018 #31
A nice response from Mueller would be "We agree it's time for Mr Trump dem4decades Dec 2018 #32
Keep twisting in the wind, Rudy... Blue Owl Dec 2018 #33
"Collusion is not a crime, by the way." sfwriter Dec 2018 #35
I have to laugh at the ridiculous headline Hav Dec 2018 #36
This is what fear smells like. Delicious. JDC Dec 2018 #38
Mueller WILL put up. Then shit-for-brains Howdy Doody Rudy will shut the hell up. ancianita Dec 2018 #40
Mueller is measuring Rudy for a nice fitting indictment even as Rudy speaks rurallib Dec 2018 #41
Methinks that Rudy is guilty of plenty. Scruffy1 Dec 2018 #42
I think you are right... SWBTATTReg Dec 2018 #43
Drip.... drip.... drip..... (nt) IcyPeas Dec 2018 #44
Several convictions or guilty pleas Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2018 #45
Probably not the wisest thing anyone ever did jmowreader Dec 2018 #46
I would love to see the FBI handcuff him and take WhiteTara Dec 2018 #47
This is perfect Takket Dec 2018 #48
He'll put up, alright. How about a subpoena, or a raid of your office re Prince/NYFBI/DCLeaks/Russia FreepFryer Dec 2018 #49
Sounds like someone is getting a little anxious. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #51
Says the guy who never shuts up. yellowcanine Dec 2018 #55
Giuliani wants it go away as much as Trump wishs it would. Wash. state Desk Jet Dec 2018 #58

akraven

(1,975 posts)
37. OMG Giggles this early? That was priceless and
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 01:34 PM
Dec 2018

got me in trouble with kitty-who-hasn't-been-fed-in-4-hours...………

Loving it.

Turbineguy

(37,365 posts)
5. Sounds like Rudy has his
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 10:29 AM
Dec 2018

Exit Plan all worked out.

Maybe the takeover of Crimea was for Putin's American colleagues who wouldn't quite be up to those Moscow winters.

 

Bilegurken

(58 posts)
6. Someone should tell this senile ghoul
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 10:32 AM
Dec 2018

Than he does not get to give orders to Mueller. He does not get to set the timeline. Shouldn't he be out feeding an watering his mistresses?

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. The last time he pulled that ultimatum thing Mueller filed a few indictments.
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 10:44 AM
Dec 2018

He'd be wise to shut up himself.

As for telling Mueller to "shut up", it's been pointed out a few times in the last week that Mueller is the "stealth" prosecutor that no one really knows because he's so quiet.

RDANGELO

(3,434 posts)
11. He and Trump are going to take the Republican Party down with them.
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 10:50 AM
Dec 2018

A great majority want Mueller to Finnish on his terms and see what evidence he has. According to reports, that won't be much longer. Giuliani is mixed up in this somehow, which explains his behavior.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
17. The New York FBI office leaked information to Giuliani
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 11:14 AM
Dec 2018

Giuliani knew in advance that Anthony Weiner's laptop, (actually it belonged to his wife, Huma Abedin, an advisor to Hillary Clinton), was being investigated because it had copies of emails from Ms. Clinton.

Of course, it turned out that the emails were simply copies of emails the FBI had already reviewed. In fact, it could be argued that James Comey was stuck between the anti-Clinton forces in the FBI and the proper agency procedures. If he hadn't re-opened the investigation, the leakers in the FBI would have released information which would have muddied the waters even more.

Giuliani probably has some culpability in one of these cases.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
12. Rudy is thrashing about in the roiling waters like a shipwreck victim
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 10:57 AM
Dec 2018

When he and his shipmates sink to the bottom, all that will be left will be a few bubbles rising to the surface, then Rudy no more.

lapucelle

(18,319 posts)
54. "When you yell you're going to drown, I'll get dressed and go to town...
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 11:00 PM
Dec 2018

Oh ho ho, Mr. Rudy!
Oh ho ho, Mr. Rudy!

Just

you

wait!"

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
13. Yeah, There Is No Collusion
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 11:00 AM
Dec 2018

Trump announces "Russia, if you are listening" and the next day Russia makes a major release of email.

Roger Stone boasts "John Podesta, you're next" and the next day Russia releases Podesta email.

All just educated guesses they claim.

All very damaging, to say the least. But you can be sure Mueller has other supporting evidence debunking the "educated guess" defense.

I would not want to be in the shoes of Stone or Trump.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
19. "I would not want to be in the shoes of Stone or Trump."
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 11:15 AM
Dec 2018

Or Jared or Ivanka or Junior or Hope Hicks or...

The list is endless!

turbinetree

(24,720 posts)
21. Hey Rudi ever here this song................do you feel the heat....................
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 11:21 AM
Dec 2018



And just for giggles there dude ever look up conspiracy..................in the law, you had to pass the American Bar Association criteria on this and not the Federalist Society bull shit correct................................, and I want you to remember this fact........................A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful...................GOT THAT..................

https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=310


conspiracy
n. when people work together by agreement to commit an illegal act. A conspiracy may exist when the parties use legal means to accomplish an illegal result, or to use illegal means to achieve something that in itself is lawful. To prove a conspiracy those involved must have agreed to the plan before all the actions have been taken, or it is just a series of independent illegal acts. A conspiracy can be criminal for planning and carrying out illegal activities, or give rise to a civil lawsuit for damages by someone injured by the conspiracy. Thus, a scheme by a group of salesmen to sell used automobiles as new, could be prosecuted as a crime of fraud and conspiracy, and also allow a purchaser of an auto to sue for damages for the fraud and conspiracy.

https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=310



and then dude if you take your enabling traitors comments.....................and then read the above definition..........your "guy's are fucked........................





And how about Sam Nunberg and Roger Stone.........................your "guy"s are fucked again...............




This is in my opinion dude is.........................conspiracy and everyone should go to jail.....................


November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough........................

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
23. Hey Rudy, shut up!
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 11:32 AM
Dec 2018

This is the same blather that’s been spewing from his wrinkled up mug for months. Mueller has the Adored and Exalted Leader by the nuts and will squeeze them tightly soon enough.

dem4decades

(11,304 posts)
32. A nice response from Mueller would be "We agree it's time for Mr Trump
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 12:50 PM
Dec 2018

To come in for his sworn testimony so we can wrap this up. "

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
35. "Collusion is not a crime, by the way."
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 01:23 PM
Dec 2018

There it is.

Remember when it was “no Russian contacts.”

Next stop, “when the president does it it’s not a crime.”

Hav

(5,969 posts)
36. I have to laugh at the ridiculous headline
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 01:23 PM
Dec 2018

His repeat routine of trying to press Mueller into ending the investigation has always failed and will fail again. Calling that ripping Mueller is like calling the actions of a fly ripping someone to distract him from his work. The fly isn't ripping anyone either.

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
41. Mueller is measuring Rudy for a nice fitting indictment even as Rudy speaks
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 02:53 PM
Dec 2018

Wear it well Rudy. You worked hard for it.

Scruffy1

(3,256 posts)
42. Methinks that Rudy is guilty of plenty.
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 03:07 PM
Dec 2018

He acts like he has some skin in the game. I'm suspecting the investigation may lead to corruption when he was mayor that involved Trump. If he was actually just a lawyer he wouldn't be trying his case in the press but working on the defense. If you know your client is guilty then you try to discredit the evidence. It worked for Johnie Cochran, but then he was a much better lawyer (and a better man).

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
43. I think you are right...
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 03:17 PM
Dec 2018

Rudi 'Gollum' is guilty of something, for he seems to overreach in his rhetoric and hysterics on rump issues.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
46. Probably not the wisest thing anyone ever did
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 05:41 PM
Dec 2018

Giuliani: "Put up or shut up, Mueller. Show us what you have."

Mueller: "I have indictments and arrest warrants for Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Michael Pence, Roger Stone, Rudolph Giuliani, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Melania Trump, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, John Kelly...marshals, take them all into custody."

WhiteTara

(29,722 posts)
47. I would love to see the FBI handcuff him and take
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 06:28 PM
Dec 2018

him to the eastern district in Virginia. Away from his mob pals in the FBI there. And not even have it part of the Mueller probe. That would be so delicious. Then at the appropriate moment, Mueller indicts him along with Individual 1 and his entire cabal.

FreepFryer

(7,077 posts)
49. He'll put up, alright. How about a subpoena, or a raid of your office re Prince/NYFBI/DCLeaks/Russia
Sun Dec 30, 2018, 07:15 PM
Dec 2018

Keep that shit up, Rudy.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
58. Giuliani wants it go away as much as Trump wishs it would.
Mon Dec 31, 2018, 02:51 AM
Dec 2018

Because he is in too deep. Giuliani isn't ripping into Mueller's case , what he doing is blowing smoke out of what amounts to nothing more than a cheap cigar. My guess is there is no bottom where it comes down to how low can Rudy go.

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