This Land is the finest in the world. But, they are making this place hard to live in.

I wanted to leave since the beginning of the Iraq War but my spouse and family refuse. We made a huge mistake staying here. The vile Right Wing has taken over and I hope we win against them but the outcome is not sure at this point.

And if they did, we’d be more likely to get more leaders like Trump. And nowhere in the world is safe when the US has leaders like him.

I've wanted to leave the country since Bush went into office, but I'm waiting until my son turns 18 as a result of a divorce and custody concerns. In the meantime, I am working on gathering my documents to obtain my dual-citizenship in Italy. Ciao!

These disaster capitalism types have some nerve if they think people will just take it lying down.

Where can you go if you aren't a rich? Most developed countries want proof of income or savings to become citizens, and we ain't talking chump change. Visas eventually expire and work Visas from other countries are tough to get. (Unless you're a Slovenia nude model and escort gold digger who is so good at her sex work she can get a self sponsored green card, like pulitzer prize winners.) You can go to less stable areas, with more poverty easier. I guess it depends on what you are fleeing.

It's funny how it costs more to leave this country then it did 40 years ago. You even need a passport to visit Alaska now. Seems as the crazy rich white men start crushing democracy it gets harder and harder to get away from them.

finds a need

My wife is Canadian and her mother has dementia so we've decided I'm going to immigrate as a family member to Nova Scotia or PEI and take care of Ma... I'm retired and tired of these gunslingers in central Florida. Uncle Sam can send my SS check up there.... I'm tired of all the hate here... Lobster is a lot cheaper too...

Became citizens last spring- not a single regret

The only thing I regret is being apart from my folks, and some foodstuffs/restaurants that are only available in the States. Not a fan of the snow, either, but oh well.

My permanent residency was granted in 2013, so as of last summer I'm eligible to go for citizenship. Once some other things settle down, that's the plan.

I was born here and grew up with it and I have lived mostly in the colder parts of the country including the High Arctic. Where I am now the annual temperature spread is 130 degrees -40 to +90F. I discovered as I got older and more broken that winter was really getting to be a pain in the ass. I talked to others who were feeling the same and I realized that the less we were able to get out and do things in the winter, the more we disliked it.

I used to go ice fishing, did a lot of photography, cross country skied, snowmobiled and went winter camping. To me, winter was mostly just another platform for fun activities. Now not so much and I'm really losing my sense of humour.

So work it in reverse. Dress appropriately and get engaged in some outdoor activities. The more of them you do, the less of a drag winter will be. (You might want to pass on the winter camping though - that involves a special skill set or two.:chuckle

There are issues and problems everywhere. You get about a 6 month "honeymoon" where you are blind or naive or oblivious to whatever problems, but then they slowly become obvious to you. You never know exactly how (U.S.A.-)American you are until you find yourself in a predicament abroad and wonder why they don't solve it in the obvious way an American would ... except we're not in America anymore. (In case my writing isn't clear, I'm speaking about myself sarcastically.)

...just in case.

in the rest of the western world?

Do these Americans know what qualifications they have to meet in order to go to another country if they are not seeking ASYLUM?

ETA: I can't afford to leave this country/home! I have to help FIX the US!

you'd find you get what you pay for instead of believe what the Koch brothers tell you. We pay almost what the Canadians pay right now except we don't get health insurance. Go figure...

I KNOW that EVERYONE benefits in many ways when tax rates are higher for those with higher incomes! (Also, Europeans must show paid income and local tax receipts when enrolling children in school or college, buying a home or car... Just about anything you try to do, you must show a paid tax receipt - or in my case a tax waiver.)

I'm just saying that 1%ers play that "No new taxes" card but even if we raise taxes, they won't take their $ and leave the US because EVERYBODY has higher tax rates than we do!

However, as a working class person, I can't afford to leave this country...

And we're not particularly rich.
We have saved a fair amount, we have no debt, spend modestly, and my social security is now paid directly into my French account. We're applying of health insurance now, and it should come through soon. Carte de sejour next year, and after that, we reapply until we get to five years. Then we can apply for a ten year card and naturalization. After that, depending on things, we may renounce our US citizenship.

Bon chance (IDK how to spell "Goodbye" in French).

but, am I ready to go? That is the problem.

But I kept thinking things would get better, but they haven't. I believe America's peak was on June 20, 1969, it's been down hill ever since, no thanks to the repugs.

If you are thinking of the moon landing, that was July.

I'll stay and fight to the bitter end! As much as an old fart can fight, anyway!

And again in 2016, but my wife wants to be close to our 3 children. And I respect that.

And please refrain from cutting holes in it to enter. Thank you from Canada

Mount Bushmore.

If another country would allow me to live there I would. Unfortunately I am screwed on that dream.

I have a job interview in Scotland next week. I am considered a Highly Skilled Migrant in the EU, so if I don't get this job, I'll take a work seeker visa next year. I have very little in savings (thanks to the garbage US Higher Education system), but having spent 13 years as a student, I can live like a monk if needed.

So, off to an interview in my field I go. That is, if I can fly due to the shutdown.

I haven't been able to visit them yet, but looking forward to as soon as possible. They moved from Las Vegas.

Would you rather have the president impeached or a cheeseburger?

Sadly I have no means to obtain a visa anywhere else except Israel.

Unfortunately these polls never ask the most basic question of those who want to leave. Have you ever been to another country and for how long? Weekends and cruise ship stops don't count.

We applied to move to Canada, British Columbia and were turned down because we are retired.

They say they can definitely get us approved to move there. If IQ45 is still in power next year, we will have a difficult decision to make. I don't want to be that far away from my daughter and son-in-law but also can't take being part of Nazi trumpdom. Just hoping he's out of office in disgrace soon and the entire repug party has been proven in public to be the traitors and criminals they all truly are. If we, as a country, go the way of Germany in the 1940's, I want to be out of here. We were lucky enough to have both my husband and I working as managers for 30 years and have some savings (not a whole lot, but some) and a paid off house, so we do have this option that a lot of people don't. I just love my house, neighborhood, friends and especially my daughter. We live 20 min. from them now and have dinner together at least once a week.

Just think, a wall restricts passage both ways. We could be trapped, if he grabs his emergency powers.

Problem is it is VERY expensive, especially if you're starting from scratch with no friends or family to help you make the transition. I already did the math and at the bare minimum I would need at least $100,000 in savings to be able to survive comfortably for a while there while I get used to life there, finding a job(which from what I've seen is very hard there), car, place to stay, establishing bank accounts, credit records, etc.