If you don't like McJesus, don't look at it.

Someone starts teasing you just dont listen . hey dont like killing for apostasy just dont read stories about them. Wow that's easy..

got it.

Tolerance goes both ways, in theory. Monotheism can withstand the insults.

Guerrilla artistic expressions are specifically intended to jar and shake one awoke to various perspectives one might not otherwise consider or perceive.

It is not comfort food specifically designed to make one's tummy feel all cozy and warm and stuffed to the gills while locked in the constant and habitual state of morbid obesity.

Welcome to life outside the womb,.. the sometimes rough and tumble that life occasionally dishes out and sends our way.

Freedom of speech must cease and desist long before it shows its ugly face at the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Tell your local artist to take his damn easel and go off on a very long hike and just shut the fuck up. We don't care to hear their concerns or see things from their unique human perspectives.

There is no place in America were the provocative arts are considered tolerated and/or welcomed.

Regimentation and order are the new trDump inspired Racist Fascist Theocratic comfort zone. Get with the new AmeriKKKan program.

USA, USA, USA where stupidity and the narrowest of narrow mindedness rules the day. It is now permanently woven into the fabric of our faux Democracy and running rampant from sea to shining sea.

When I first saw it, the idea seemed to suggest something about humanities over focus on capitalism and lack of focus on humanity.

Art, it's open to your interpretation, one person may see what another does not.

Could reflect on the idea that Christianity and the evangelical movement that has politicized it's base using their religion has commodified itself. Over one billion sold

Even apart from the political aspects, one can see that religion has tended to commodify itself. You see that when the faithful co-opt corporate logos into Christian ones. Our local NBA team is called The Magic and one season they had a slogan that was "I believe in Magic" with a very specific font and color scheme. Soon, one saw window stickers that said, "I believe in Jesus" in the exact same font/color scheme. I thought it odd that the faithful would want to equate somehow a sports team with Jesus.

They are almost always WAY to extreme!

People who believe the later is the answer to the former are shit and their beliefs are shit.

That may not be a popular view here, but some things do go too far.

Some people don't have a sense of humor or any appreciation of art. Like one poster mentioned in the trend on this topic, don't look at it.

To the demonstrators who threw a firebomb at the museum, they all need to be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. What other exhibits in the museum could have been damaged during the attack that may have had significant historical relevance of a religious nature? Infringing on others' freedoms isn't the way to go. Figures that in Israel, people go nuts.

And I am a great believer in free speech and expression. Attacks of firebombing, etc. are inexcusable.

But it would have to be explained to me why it is "humorous."

the accumulation of wealth and nothing else. Jesus was against such practices and showed it via his tirade against the money exchangers in the market.

gash in his side, and one of those paper tray liners with the children's puzzles nailed to the top of the cross a la "INRI."

So much missed opportunity.

In that, I feel bemused by its absolute lack of evidence supporting it.

(insert self-righteous bumper sticker below.. again though, make sure it contains no evidence supporting it)

I saw the original in a gallery in NY many years ago. It's HUGE...a 60"x40" Cibachrome print. Ciba was a process that could produce extremely deep, rich, and saturated colors.

When I entered the gallery room where this was displayed I just stopped dead in my tracks and said, "Wow!"

interpretations vary.

And I don't know how many times I've been told that the artist's intent matters much less than the viewer's, and there's no right or wrong in interpretation.

There is a clear right or wrong, but only when we agree with the artist and think that the interpretations are ass-backward.

And I think it works better than the creepy Burger King head.

crucified in the background.

playing on the whole jesus being crucified with the thieves.

I want to send out some thoughts and prayers.

"Museum director Nissim Tal said that he was shocked at the sudden uproar, especially because the exhibit — intended to criticize what many view as society's cult-like worship of capitalism — had been on display for months. It has also been shown in other countries without incident.

The protests appear to have been sparked by visitors sharing photos of the exhibit on social media."

Created discord.

Wonder how that happened.

Then somebody notices and puts a particular spin on it.

The first thing you do is assume the spin is correct as you look at the object. Then, if there's a reason for you to think that the spin is incorrect--usually because it contradicts what you think or believe for other reasons or if you feel insulted--you deny it. Otherwise, you're been primed to interpret it a given way and that's the most natural interpretation. However inane.

It works with videos on Youtube. It works with news stories and events. It works with art. Right, left, in the middle, we're all people, too. As soon as you read the "explanation" of what you're going to see, you've often as good as seen it.

My point was that I believe this was deliberately spun. To stir up and encourage discord. Or the discord was noticed and then deliberately fanned. Just look. The discord even made its way into this thread.

This is how Russia is attacking... find what people disagree on and then fan the flames on both sides.

I wish I had thought of this idea. Oozing catsup would have been a great touch.

Not offensive

About them . Remember the statue of mary made out of crap. Those that can't create art shock

I'm talking about Koonz and basketball in aquarium. What a bunch of bullshit. DaVinci he is NOT. Talk about the emperor has no clothes

... but if it pisses off church people I like it.

I suppose this could somehow be weaved into the Prosperity Gospel narrative, though....

What is the law there about using a corporate logo in art?

Didn't know that Israel's Christians were such big hockey fans....

...but it's simply too accurate in its portrayal of post-modern religion in a consumer-oriented culture.

I'm guessing the vast majority of the criticism is simply pretense; little more than an act to better portray the role of the oppressed victim which seems to be all the rage among the parishioners of the glitz and gild of the modern megachurch.

The minority criticisms I'm guessing, are just people who refuse to allow additional perspectives into their brains.




Art... the punching bag du jour of the witless.

After all, why do so many atheists celebrate xmas?

and it's fun to give too. But mostly presents.

edit to add: We (as in "me and my family and my atheism" don't celebrate christmas as religious thing. We do celebrate the spirit of giving and being with family at that time of year because that's when I can get time off work.

Just how I like my evangelicals.

Karma rules the day!

If anything, I find it a little amusing.

What bothers me more is the reaction. Violence in the name of Christ is much worse than some piece of art that no one would know about if not for the advertisement provided by the protesters. I believe that God has a sense of humor. Some of his followers, not so much.