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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:02 AM Sep 2012

APNewsBreak: Border Patrol halts Mexico flights

Source: Associated Press

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- The U.S. government has halted flights home for Mexicans caught entering the country illegally in the deadly summer heat of Arizona's deserts, a money-saving move that ends a seven-year experiment that cost taxpayers nearly $100 million.

More than 125,000 passengers were flown deep into Mexico for free since 2004 in an effort that initially met with skepticism from Mexican government officials and migrants, but was gradually embraced as a way to help people back on their feet and save lives.

The Border Patrol hailed it as a way to discourage people from trying their luck again, and it appears to have kept many away - at least for a short time.

But with Border Patrol arrests at 40-year lows and fresh evidence suggesting more people may be heading south of the border than north, officials struggled to fill the planes and found the costs increasingly difficult to justify. Flights carrying up to 146 people were cut to once from twice daily last year.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IMMIGRATION_FLIGHTS_HALTED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-10-05-03-29

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APNewsBreak: Border Patrol halts Mexico flights (Original Post) dipsydoodle Sep 2012 OP
du rec. Nt xchrom Sep 2012 #1
Then is it time to downsize Joe Arapio? jerseyjack Sep 2012 #2
State issues, not Federal ProgressiveProfessor Sep 2012 #3
flights.... Historic NY Sep 2012 #4
OMG! *gag, cough, choke* SoapBox Sep 2012 #5

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
4. flights....
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:14 AM
Sep 2012

"The Mexican Interior Repatriation Program flights carried 125,164 passengers at a cost of $90.6 million since 2004, or an average of $724 each, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement"

Imagine the cost if the Baggers & Brewer got their way to fly people out. What was the last count 12 million.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
5. OMG! *gag, cough, choke*
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:11 PM
Sep 2012

Stunning.

So my story is from the maybe, mid to late 1980s?

My folks used to go to Yuma, AZ for the winter months...it's pretty close to the border.

I was going out of Phoenix to Yuma on Skywest Airlines, on a standby travel "pass" (ya, free). The aircraft at the time was a Swearingen Metroliner and seated about 19 passengers. So, the flight is "wide open"...if I remember well over half of the seats were available. Myself and another person on a pass, started talking and were happy that we would get on.

No less than 15 minutes before departure (agent was just ready to board...it would have taken 5 minutes for the 7 or 8 of us to walk to the plane), Immigration shows up with, yup, at least 10 or 11 guys that were caught up in a sweep in Phoenix. They were there to fly them to Yuma and then drive them to the border and tell them to go back to Mexico. Needless to say, the other person and I were SWEATING about getting on...yes, we got the 2 last seats.

I've never forgotten that. I asked many a person about this and found that it was a daily thing and many times (at the time), on multiple flights per day.

The biggest laugh, some folks told me that those guys would be back in Phoenix by the next morning.

The p.s.....

So this aircraft had two pilots only and just a curtain over the cockpit opening...one of the pilots would read a quicky safety "demo" for the plane. The other pass rider and I were sitting in the back row (3 seats across the back bulkhead I believe) and during taxi out (and let me tell you the plane was LOUD! It was really hard to hear anyone!), one of the guys being shipped out was sitting at a window exit. The exit simply had a metal handle, exposed, that you would pull to open. So the guy is hanging on to the handle with both hands and we can see the handle pulling in slightly, slightly, slighty...we knew that we had to act fast, so we started hitting people in front of us on the shoulder, pointing, and doing the slash-across-the-throat and pointing. It was like the wave as each row did the same until it got to the guy behind the exit row...he semi stood up, took the guys hands off the handle, with his fist, banged the handle back into place...and we took off. The pilots never even knew. It's one of those Tales to Tell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bearskin_Metroliner_Winnipeg.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Metroliner_interior.JPG

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