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billh58

(6,635 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:39 PM Jan 2019

Exclusive: White House preparing draft national emergency order, has identified $7 billion for wall

Source: CNN

By Priscilla Alvarez and Tammy Kupperman, CNN
Updated 5:57 PM ET, Thu January 24, 2019


Washington (CNN) — The White House is preparing a draft proclamation for President Donald Trump to declare a national emergency along the southern border and has identified more than $7 billion in potential funds for his signature border wall should he go that route, according to internal documents reviewed by CNN.

Trump has not ruled out using his authority to declare a national emergency and direct the Defense Department to construct a border wall as Congress and the White House fight over a deal to end the government shutdown. But while Trump's advisers remain divided on the issue, the White House has been moving forward with alternative plans that would bypass Congress.

"The massive amount of aliens who unlawfully enter the United States each day is a direct threat to the safety and security of our nation and constitutes a national emergency," a draft of a presidential proclamation reads.

"Now, therefore, I, Donald J. Trump, by the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C 1601, et seq.), hereby declare that a national emergency exists at the southern border of the United States," the draft adds.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/24/politics/trump-border-wall-emergency-draft/index.html



Egotistical ass wipe and inept businessman.
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Exclusive: White House preparing draft national emergency order, has identified $7 billion for wall (Original Post) billh58 Jan 2019 OP
How's he gonna get that much money without congress?? ansible Jan 2019 #1
All appropriations Bills originate in the House. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #8
But what if the House has designated $$$ for other projects, can drumpf shift in2herbs Jan 2019 #15
Not legally. guillaumeb Jan 2019 #29
Pretty easily actually madville Jan 2019 #14
Well, at least West Virginia will now finally be safe underpants Jan 2019 #2
Seriously. a la izquierda Jan 2019 #24
I have lots of relatives there underpants Jan 2019 #26
He's got to climb out of the hole somehow. maxsolomon Jan 2019 #3
By the time this winds its way through the LibDemAlways Jan 2019 #4
Trump Should Prepare to Have His Plan "Shutdown" in Federal Court dlk Jan 2019 #5
For him GP6971 Jan 2019 #6
He'll just make the judiciary a scapegoat. PAMod Jan 2019 #7
Not really knowing if he can do this w/o congress... pangaia Jan 2019 #9
lol... coockoo bird fascisthunter Jan 2019 #10
This fuckwad president keeps upping the ransom amount. Efilroft Sul Jan 2019 #11
He wrongly thinks the Executive and the Judicial can outvote the Legislative. LakeSuperiorView Jan 2019 #12
Doing so will cement his never winning again. Not immediately, but... salin Jan 2019 #13
I'm worried about this ripcord Jan 2019 #16
this must be the "alternative" he talked about today. nt Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #17
THERE IS NO NATIONAL EMERGENCY AT THE BORDER. Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #18
Or force him to get an emergency mental evaluation. n/t area51 Jan 2019 #19
Didn't that group of psychologists and psychiatrists already do that, more or less ? Haggis for Breakfast Jan 2019 #20
This is a good scenario, I now believe. Chemisse Jan 2019 #21
I think you've got it exactly right. lark Jan 2019 #28
Trump knows the fallout from the National Emergency gambit Optical.Catalyst Jan 2019 #22
He is the national emergency scarytomcat Jan 2019 #23
He doesn't need the wall and he knows it. Cold War Spook Jan 2019 #25
Just in time to distract from Ratfuc_er Stone arrest Nevermypresident Jan 2019 #27

in2herbs

(2,947 posts)
15. But what if the House has designated $$$ for other projects, can drumpf shift
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:41 PM
Jan 2019

that excess or unspent money to his project? The dems are doing a terrible job of pushing their agenda. I have yet to hear any dem demand an itemization and a business plan from drump. I don't trust the courts. If the dems cave on this I'm done with politics.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
29. Not legally.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 03:56 PM
Jan 2019

Part of the problem, a huge part, is that the US corporate media prefers to focus on Trump's moronic tweets and incoherent hate speech.

madville

(7,412 posts)
14. Pretty easily actually
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:39 PM
Jan 2019

Last thing I read said there was around 13 billion in funds available in the DOD budget for general construction projects that hasn't been appropriated yet or used. He declares a national emergency and taps into those funds since they aren't specifically earmarked by Congress.

a la izquierda

(11,798 posts)
24. Seriously.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 09:39 AM
Jan 2019

I live here. The people are mental about this shit, despite the fact that there are maybe 6 Mexicans in the whole state (exaggeration, but not really).

underpants

(182,957 posts)
26. I have lots of relatives there
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jan 2019

but not ...well my mom’s generation were super achievers. I’m sure, spent some time there and I wouldn’t be surprised

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
4. By the time this winds its way through the
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:42 PM
Jan 2019

courts, Trump will be long dead and so will his stupid idea.

dlk

(11,585 posts)
5. Trump Should Prepare to Have His Plan "Shutdown" in Federal Court
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:42 PM
Jan 2019

How many times does he have to lose in federal court before reason sets in?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
9. Not really knowing if he can do this w/o congress...
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:56 PM
Jan 2019

in other words, just do it.. and then military law,, whatever, I dunno....

Maybe Dems should get out in front and just keep saying how stupid, ridiculous this is.
There IS no crisis, emergency whatsoever along ANY of our borders,..it's a joke....big lie... just something trump makes up for--- putin?, Saudis?, steel makers? etc etc etc...

 

LakeSuperiorView

(1,533 posts)
12. He wrongly thinks the Executive and the Judicial can outvote the Legislative.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:25 PM
Jan 2019

It doesn't work that way and he can't buy Evraz steel with promises. He is panicking.

salin

(48,955 posts)
13. Doing so will cement his never winning again. Not immediately, but...
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:30 PM
Jan 2019

due to the multiple awful consequences that will result when $ that was allocated for specific, serious, initiatives are drained to fund a wall that will take a long time to build (no tangible 'result'), and will be ineffective. That would mean this story (that started with the govt shut down) will stretch on out through the remainder of his term. With each new situation emphasizing how this (ineffective, and long/slow to build "wall&quot is prioritized over x y and z.

Dumb *ss president and advisors. If this lever is pulled, may it continue to shrink the GOP so that it ends up going the way of the whig party.

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
16. I'm worried about this
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 10:20 PM
Jan 2019

He is going to declare a national emergency, cite the numbers and then we will have to defend, before the federal courts, that there is an acceptable amount of people entering the country without authorization.

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
21. This is a good scenario, I now believe.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:26 AM
Jan 2019

It will go to court almost immediately and, given some pretty concrete facts, be declared invalid.

In the meantime, the government has been reopened and the crisis resolved. Trump blames the court and saves face (at least in his own mind).

lark

(23,179 posts)
28. I think you've got it exactly right.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 10:52 AM
Jan 2019

He'll sign off on the no-wall bill to open the government then at the same time declare a national emergency to steal $ from other approved projects to build the wall with Deripaska steel, thereby allegedly keeping promises to both his base, PUtin & Deripaska. He knows this will get shutdown immediately by the courts and is counting on it to keep his ego intact while he fails at these promises. His base is stupid enough to go for it, but Russia? Don't think they will be forgiving.

Optical.Catalyst

(1,355 posts)
22. Trump knows the fallout from the National Emergency gambit
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 07:23 AM
Jan 2019

The next Democratic President immediately declares Climate Change as a National Emergency. Green initiatives will take down the rich industrialists like the Koch brothers. The Republicans will lose their source of high dollar donations, and cease to exist.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
23. He is the national emergency
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 08:09 AM
Jan 2019

doesn't he have to prove a clear and present danger?
seems like a bad move to me if media does its job

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
25. He doesn't need the wall and he knows it.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 09:44 AM
Jan 2019

He declares the emergency and while that spends the next 6 years in court, he can show his followers that the courts, Democrats, Obama and Hillary are putting us all in danger.

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