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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 10:47 PM Jan 2019

Pelosi Embraces Legislation To Effectively Prevent Future Government Shutdowns

Source: Daily Beast

In a briefing with reporters and columnists on Friday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) became the highest official yet to formally embrace legislation that would effectively prevent the government from closing. And she hinted that she may even push a proposal in the near future.

“[Former Rep. Dale Kildee (D-MI)] had a bill that I’m hoping we might be able to put forward,” Pelosi explained. “And what that bill said is that if you do not, on any appropriations bill, I’m not talking about the omnibus or minibus”—aggregate spending bills— “any appropriations bill that does not get agreed upon within a timely fashion by the date, you automatically go into a CR” — a resolution to keep current spending levels going— “until you do.”

Were Pelosi the lone figure to embrace such a concept, the chances of it actually materializing into law would be slim. And they may well be. But in the wake of the just-completed shutdown over border wall funding, top Republicans have joined the chorus seeking to pass legislation that would prevent shutdowns from ever happening.

Senator Chuck Grassley (R-IA), the president pro tempore of the Senate, put out a statement on Friday that included this conspicuous request about the government funding bill that Congress now must reach in three weeks, when the current deal expires: “The final package should also end government shutdowns once and for all.”

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Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/pelosi-embraces-legislation-to-effectively-prevent-future-government-shutdowns/



I'd read earlier reports from that briefing, but this is the first I'd read about this statement from Pelosi.
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Pelosi Embraces Legislation To Effectively Prevent Future Government Shutdowns (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2019 OP
lol shanny Jan 2019 #1
I totally agree rickyhall Jan 2019 #2
If Assley is on board, can McTurtle be far behind? lagomorph777 Jan 2019 #3
Yep. They should call this the "Save The GOP From Itself" bill. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #5
It is RIDICULOUS that this is not already the law. nt SunSeeker Jan 2019 #4
No shit... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #8
That's because it was rare up until recently BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #17
Good idea. McCamy Taylor Jan 2019 #6
No way will tRump understand what she's talking about here. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2019 #7
What's his name lost interest and started looking out the window at: "And what that bill said..." yonder Jan 2019 #12
You made me think of Andy Dwyer in Parks and Rec. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2019 #18
We can only wish it was a TV show. yonder Jan 2019 #20
GOPers don't like how Trump was playing with his favorite new toy (shutdown), but they don't want to RockRaven Jan 2019 #9
Dale Kildee, that she references, is the former congressman representing MI-05 Siwsan Jan 2019 #10
Dan Kildee, not Dale. James48 Jan 2019 #11
And that's exactly what I stated. It was Dale's bill. He retired. Dan is now our Rep Siwsan Jan 2019 #15
This is a no-brainer. canetoad Jan 2019 #13
I hope this passes. Lonestarblue Jan 2019 #14
"you automatically go into a CR" BumRushDaShow Jan 2019 #16
I would also like to see restrictions on a president's ability to declare a national emergency. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2019 #19
 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
1. lol
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jan 2019

Repukes in Congress have don't trust the Criminal in Chief--go figure!--and also realize how badly they lost on this.

guess what, assholes: people like the government, and like when it works. When you pricks shut it down, it reminds the voters of those facts so it's a lose-lose proposition for you every time.

Maybe it's an unexpected bonus that the assholes are learning.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
3. If Assley is on board, can McTurtle be far behind?
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 11:15 PM
Jan 2019

I think they all know the GOP got seriously shellacked with their shutdown. Again.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
17. That's because it was rare up until recently
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 10:13 AM
Jan 2019

as most times the stalemate was temporarily resolved with a Continuing Resolution until the final appropriations bills were completed. The whole issue of what happens with a lapse was mostly a post-Carter thing based on a budget-related law passed in 1974 and did not occur prior because interpretations of the Anti-Deficiency Act didn't quite consider civil servant salaries as applicable within the framework of the Constitution's mention of funding (a lot of the original Anti-Deficiency Act was focused on forbidding government obligations for agreements/contracts without having sufficient appropriations).

Nowadays, with the rise of the combative GOP starting with Gingrich and going through to the teabaggers, the lapses have become more egregious. They started being used as a bullying tool to inflict pain on helpless government workers who were not considered by the GOP to be of use due to the GOP's policy obsession for "less government", which they assumed would lead to Democratic capitulation to their hostage demands in order to enact their policies.

List of lapses/shutdowns - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/09/25/here-is-every-previous-government-shutdown-why-they-happened-and-how-they-ended/?utm_term=.ea4133c23b75

(note - although the above link is listed with a "2013" - it was written just before the 2013 one, they actually updated it with a link about this last shutdown)

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
18. You made me think of Andy Dwyer in Parks and Rec.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 01:15 PM
Jan 2019

Leslie Knope snaps her fingers at him to get him to focus.

yonder

(9,666 posts)
20. We can only wish it was a TV show.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 11:31 PM
Jan 2019

There's not enough snaps or fingers to get attention from this preznut.

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
9. GOPers don't like how Trump was playing with his favorite new toy (shutdown), but they don't want to
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 12:48 AM
Jan 2019

take it away from him OVERTLY (i.e. over-riding a veto) and deal with the ensuing temper tantrum, so they will hide it from him when he's not looking... That's some good parenting there, GrASSley. Way to teach the man-baby to behave responsibly.

Siwsan

(26,268 posts)
10. Dale Kildee, that she references, is the former congressman representing MI-05
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 01:07 AM
Jan 2019

That's the district I live in. Now it's represented by his nephew, Dan.

James48

(4,436 posts)
11. Dan Kildee, not Dale.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 01:17 AM
Jan 2019

Dale Kildee retired a few years ago, and his nephew ran fir and won the seat.

While Dale was a long term Congressman, and effective, his nephew DAN KILDEE is now the Congressman, and is turning into a really outstanding and significant rising powerhouse guy. He speaks very eloquently, is very bright, and is an absolutely dynamic Congressman.

I think the reporter or editor of the article just got it wrong. Nancy said Kildee, and the reporter or editor injected the error.

Siwsan

(26,268 posts)
15. And that's exactly what I stated. It was Dale's bill. He retired. Dan is now our Rep
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 09:08 AM
Jan 2019

My exact subject line with added emphasis: Dale Kildee, that she references, is the FORMER congressman representing MI-05

I've lived here for most of my life so I am VERY familiar with the Kildee Family and their political legacy. Dan's father and his uncle, Dale, grew up by, and were friends with my mother's family.

canetoad

(17,169 posts)
13. This is a no-brainer.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 02:27 AM
Jan 2019

In a parliamentary system, denial of supply would trigger either a no-confidence vote or an election.

It's appalling that it can be used as a political tool.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
14. I hope this passes.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:20 AM
Jan 2019

Government shutdown should be one politicial trick that neither party can use. We know Senator Bennett would vote for it after that epic takedown of Ted Cruz. I hope to see that righteous rant played in many pro-Democrat campaigns for 2020!

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
16. "you automatically go into a CR"
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 09:44 AM
Jan 2019

Perfect. That would keep the funding at "current" levels until the final versions are approved. Of course with egregiously hypocritical GOPers, they would probably insist on "permanent" CRs - except for DOD, but that is a whole other issue. A couple times during my career, the funding from a CR ended up being extended for the remainder of that fiscal year as an example.

Oddly enough, one would think the GOP would embrace that aspect of it as a way to "control spending" (outside of their pet pork projects that they will cherry pick regardless). But at least this would put the lapse of funding/furlough nonsense (along with the cherry-picking of who or what is considered "essential&quot to rest for good.

19. I would also like to see restrictions on a president's ability to declare a national emergency.
Sat Jan 26, 2019, 08:32 PM
Jan 2019

In the case of a true national emergency Congress could pass a declaration immediately. For a made-up one like the border wall Congress could run the issue through the normal political process.

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