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highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:03 AM Jan 2019

Trump claimed women were gagged with tape. Then Border Patrol tried to find some evidence.

Source: Vox

It’s become a staple of President Donald Trump’s riffs on the horrors of the US-Mexico border, something he knows by heart so well that he doesn’t even need it scripted on a teleprompter: Human traffickers gag women with tape so they can’t even breathe before packing them into vans and driving them across the border illegally.

But two weeks after Trump had started talking about tape-gagged women — when a January 17 Washington Post article had questioned the claim — a top Border Patrol official had to email agents to ask if they had “any information” that the claim was actually true.

The email, shown to Vox by a source within Border Patrol, was sent as a “request for information” by an assistant Border Patrol chief, apparently on behalf of the office of Customs and Border Protection commissioner Kevin McAleenan (referred to internally as “C-1”). It asked agents to reply within less than two hours with “any information (in any format)” regarding claims of tape-gagged women — and even linked to the Post article “for further info.”

Vox’s source indicated that they and others in their sector hadn’t heard anything that would back up Trump’s claims, but wasn’t sure if agents in other sectors had provided information. However, no one from the Trump administration has come forward to offer evidence for the claim, either before or after the internal Border Patrol email was sent. (Customs and Border Protection did not respond to a request for comment.)

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Read more: https://www.vox.com/2019/1/27/18198729/women-tape-truck-smuggling-trafficking-border



Text of the email at the link.
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Trump claimed women were gagged with tape. Then Border Patrol tried to find some evidence. (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2019 OP
republican lies are toxic for America Achilleaze Jan 2019 #1
..as of Friday he'd made 10 references to it in 22 days -- without anyone knowing exactly where Trump riversedge Jan 2019 #2
Saw it in a movie - Taken series maybe bigbrother05 Jan 2019 #29
The Punisher Blackjackdavey Jan 2019 #33
Sounds like a revolting sexual fantasy bedazzled Jan 2019 #3
He's fantasizing about how he would do it. Iggo Jan 2019 #11
it's not sexual. He started saying this about the time a certain woman rose to power. Who? lol. nt CharleyDog Jan 2019 #28
Trump's face makes me gag pretty much every day flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #4
Same here. Scarsdale Jan 2019 #16
What tRump lied again? I'm shocked I tell you, just shocked! Canoe52 Jan 2019 #5
The problem is he tells these lies mountain grammy Jan 2019 #6
The wrong group was canvassing their information Mr. Ected Jan 2019 #7
or infowars. safeinOhio Jan 2019 #14
I still think someone needs to check the trunk... Hong Kong Cavalier Jan 2019 #8
How stupid do his supporters look right now duforsure Jan 2019 #9
SNL mentioned duct tape in the opening skit last night. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sarcasmo Jan 2019 #10
I think he watched the trailer for Sicario 2 TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #12
That's a MAGA wet dream right there. Iggo Jan 2019 #13
Yes They_Live Jan 2019 #15
Hallucinations from sleep derivation is common from amphetamine use. nt Snellius Jan 2019 #32
Made up? I'm shocked Evolve Dammit Jan 2019 #17
When MF45 speaks MontanaMama Jan 2019 #18
I think I know where he got it. ginnyinWI Jan 2019 #19
He was nattering on about duct tape before Jayme Closs escaped The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #30
I want trump to under go Corgigal Jan 2019 #20
it's his subconscious desire to silence a certain woman. nt CharleyDog Jan 2019 #27
oh good. and the MSM are all over this falsehood now right? IcyPeas Jan 2019 #21
"I'll just make it up as I go along! Who'll ever know?" struggle4progress Jan 2019 #22
And what good are human trafficking victims who can't breathe? rocktivity Jan 2019 #23
Details Roy Rolling Jan 2019 #24
He was probably watching some right wing fantasy porn kimbutgar Jan 2019 #25
President Dumbo is showing his subconscious desire to gag women. Can you think of a particular CharleyDog Jan 2019 #26
Thanks. Saw this article the other day and forgot to get back it underpants Jan 2019 #31
Trump is obsessed with the topic of women being bound with duct tape. yellowcanine Jan 2019 #34

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. republican lies are toxic for America
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jan 2019

republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America
republican lies are toxic for America

riversedge

(70,218 posts)
2. ..as of Friday he'd made 10 references to it in 22 days -- without anyone knowing exactly where Trump
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:20 AM
Jan 2019



...........as of Friday he’d made 10 references to it in 22 days — without anyone knowing exactly where Trump got it from.

Border experts have told the Post and other reporters that they’ve never heard anything like what Trump’s talking about.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
11. He's fantasizing about how he would do it.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jan 2019

That's one way to tell a lie.

It's also one way to get caught.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
16. Same here.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jan 2019

He is repulsive. Seems to have added a couple more chins just in the last week. Maybe Maleria's nude photos have evidence of women bound and gagged? Roger Stone belongs to a "Swingers Club" maybe he showed tRump some photos like that??

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
6. The problem is he tells these lies
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:17 PM
Jan 2019

And the evening news breathlessly tells us how he “caved” but say nothing, and I mean nothing, to debunk his lies which are so easily debunked.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
7. The wrong group was canvassing their information
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jan 2019

A simple review of Fox & Friends, Jeanne Pirro, Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson's shows will likely pinpoint the source of Trump's stories.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,572 posts)
8. I still think someone needs to check the trunk...
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jan 2019

Of the presidential limo. That's a lot of detail that seems to come from nowhere.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
9. How stupid do his supporters look right now
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 12:25 PM
Jan 2019

Believing all the BS and propaganda he's promoting . Its unbelievable anyone is that stupid to believe anything this serial liar , and corrupt criminal says , or does, but they do, still.

Evolve Dammit

(16,733 posts)
17. Made up? I'm shocked
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 01:22 PM
Jan 2019

Sounds like methodology from the Kavanaugh chronicles. Or perhaps Spanky tried it? The speech was rambling and bizzare in any case

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
19. I think I know where he got it.
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 02:33 PM
Jan 2019

Jayme Closs, from Barron, Wisconsin actually was bound, duct taped and put into a trunk of a car when she was abducted. Maybe he just appropriated that idea, or thought he remembered it pertaining to the border. More likely he just had it rattling around in his brain until it popped out as this lie.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
30. He was nattering on about duct tape before Jayme Closs escaped
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jan 2019

and the details of her abduction were known. More likely he got the story from a movie or from the dank depths of his own sexual fantasies.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
20. I want trump to under go
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 03:05 PM
Jan 2019

a damn brain scan and plenty of other medical testing. I want to know if he saw a movie and now he believes it's real, or did he pick and choose a portion of a fictional movie and is now using it in a gaslight experiment on the American people.

I consider both issues serious. He's not just running for office now. I'm happy that journalists found this portion of his running mouth important. It creeps out people, and I understand why Hollywood would use the premise. Washington DC, not so much.

Damn, fox viewers will believe it and boy do we have issues.

IcyPeas

(21,871 posts)
21. oh good. and the MSM are all over this falsehood now right?
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jan 2019

oh. wrong. no one is talking about this on the news that it was a made up story.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
23. And what good are human trafficking victims who can't breathe?
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 06:51 PM
Jan 2019

Unless you're actually in the business of human corpse trafficking, you would think that suffocating your own inventory would have a negative effect on sales.


rocktivity

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
24. Details
Sun Jan 27, 2019, 11:11 PM
Jan 2019

1. Trump claimed women were bound with tape
2. THEN, the Border Patrol tried to find some evidence


I just had to let it sink in again. Shoot off mouth first, ask questions later.

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
26. President Dumbo is showing his subconscious desire to gag women. Can you think of a particular
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jan 2019

woman he wants to silence, tie up, and render helpless? Yes, her. Our Nancy. Melania appears to have been already silenced long ago.

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