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Eugene

(61,939 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 11:20 AM Feb 2019

Massachusetts top court upholds teen texting suicide verdict

Source: Reuters

BOSTON (Reuters) - Massachusetts’ top court on Wednesday upheld a woman’s conviction for manslaughter for goading her teenage boyfriend into suicide with a series of text messages in 2014 in a case that drew national attention to cyber-bullying.

The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court agreed with a lower court’s ruling on Michelle Carter, who prosecutors said urged her 18-year-old boyfriend, Conrad Roy, to kill himself in a parking lot about 60 miles (100 km) south of Boston.

Carter’s 2017 trial highlighted the dangers of cyber bullying and raised concerns among civil liberties advocates who argued the judge overreached by finding Carter guilty for her speech. Her lawyers called the case unprecedented in the United States.

Carter, now 22, was 17 when Roy killed himself by filling his parked truck in Fairhaven, Massachusetts, with carbon monoxide from a generator he had hooked up to it.

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U.S. LEGAL NEWS FEBRUARY 6, 2019 / 9:57 AM / UPDATED 14 MINUTES AGO
Nate Raymond
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Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-massachusetts-crime-teen-texting/massachusetts-top-court-upholds-teen-texting-suicide-verdict-idUSKCN1PV1SV

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Massachusetts top court upholds teen texting suicide verdict (Original Post) Eugene Feb 2019 OP
Good. In my humble opinion 'free speech' doesn't include speech meant to harm others groundloop Feb 2019 #1
Agreed rpannier Feb 2019 #3
"Harm Others" is a bit overbroad MosheFeingold Feb 2019 #4
Good. RhodeIslandOne Feb 2019 #2

groundloop

(11,521 posts)
1. Good. In my humble opinion 'free speech' doesn't include speech meant to harm others
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 12:33 PM
Feb 2019

It's my belief that over the years the First Amendment has been manipulated to encompass far more than what was intended.

rpannier

(24,334 posts)
3. Agreed
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 12:14 AM
Feb 2019

I might have leaned a little more on her side, but I read the story;
When he texted his family would be upset, she texted back that they'd be fine
She texted him to get back into the truck and finish it
There were other asinine, sociopathic texts as well

I haven't read anywhere that she has expressed any remorse, other than the 'I got caught' crocodile tears

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
4. "Harm Others" is a bit overbroad
Thu Feb 7, 2019, 11:18 AM
Feb 2019

But this is basically just a direct and immediate incitement to violence -- which is not protected.

It just happens that this was direct and immediate incitement to self-violence.

No real distinction to be made under existing First Amendment law.

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