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BumRushDaShow

(129,486 posts)
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 05:53 PM Feb 2019

The Senate just passed the decade's biggest public lands package. Here's what's in it.

Source: Washington Post

The Senate Tuesday passed the most sweeping conservation legislation in a decade, protecting millions of acres of land and hundreds of miles of wild rivers across the country and establishing four new national monuments honoring heroes from Civil War soldiers to a civil rights icon. The 662-page measure, which passed 92 to 8, represented an old-fashioned approach to dealmaking that has largely disappeared on Capitol Hill. Senators from across the ideological spectrum celebrated home-state gains and congratulated each other for bridging the partisan divide. “It touches every state, features the input of a wide coalition of our colleagues, and has earned the support of a broad, diverse coalition of many advocates for public lands, economic development, and conservation," said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, (R-Ky).

It’s a paradoxical win for conservation at a time when President Trump has promoted development on public lands and scaled back safeguards established by his predecessors. The bill, which the Congressional Budget Office projects will save taxpayers $9 million, enjoys broad support in the House.

The lower chamber is poised to take it up after the mid-February recess, and White House officials have indicated privately that the president will sign it. The measure protects 1.3 million acres as wilderness, the nation’s most stringent protection that prohibits even roads and motorized vehicles. It permanently withdraws more than 370,000 acres of land from mining around two national parks, including Yellowstone, and permanently authorizes a program to spend offshore drilling revenue on conservation efforts.

The package is crammed full of provisions for nearly every senator who cast a vote Tuesday. New Mexico Sen. Martin Heinrich (D) lauded the fact that it will create 273,000 acres of wilderness in his state, most of it within the boundaries of two national monuments that Trump threatened to shrink. Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee Chairwoman Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), who co-authored it, inserted a provision that allows native Alaskans who served in Vietnam to apply for a land allotment in their home state.


Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2019/02/12/senate-just-passed-decades-biggest-public-lands-package-heres-whats-it/?utm_term=.68a0831b8a25



Totally speechless.

Original article and full title-

The Senate just passed the most sweeping conservation legislation in a decade, protecting millions of acres of land

By Washington Post Staff
February 12 at 4:50 PM

The bill protects 1.3 million acres as wilderness, the nation's most stringent protection that prohibits even roads and motorized vehicles. It permanently withdraws from mining more than 370,000 acres of land around two national parks, including Yellowstone, and permanently authorizes a program to spend offshore drilling revenue on conservation efforts.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/02/12/the-senate-just-passed-the-most-sweeping-conservation-legislation-in-a-decade-protecting-millions-of-acres-of-land/?utm_term=.8c88fff29372



Have to find out some more info on this. Seemed to have flown under the radar.

EDIT - Vote just ended 92 - 8.

(as a side note they are now voting on cloture for the Barr nomination).
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The Senate just passed the decade's biggest public lands package. Here's what's in it. (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 OP
Did someone put acid in the bean soup? NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2019 #1
Or something.... BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #2
Oh this will give rump a heart attack!!! nt SWBTATTReg Feb 2019 #3
I hope so Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #43
I wish Rebl2 Feb 2019 #45
The Senate wryter2000 Feb 2019 #4
That could be the bingo. BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #9
It passed 92-8, not sure if there is a similar bill in the House. If not, this is veto-proof. George II Feb 2019 #19
Holy crap wryter2000 Feb 2019 #21
Fantastic and way overdue. Can't help but feel suspicious though. onit2day Feb 2019 #5
Is there a missing "not" in the title? Or was it another Senate? NT Bleacher Creature Feb 2019 #6
Poster #4 may have the answer! BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #8
It's not on the Senate website yet, but later tonight or tomorrow you can get details here: George II Feb 2019 #7
They still have the voting open BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #10
Thanks, am watching now. McSally just voted for it - final vote is 92-8. George II Feb 2019 #11
Yup. Just added it to the OP. BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #12
damn. It passed 92-8 RussBLib Feb 2019 #13
Per post #31 BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #37
Found this graphic at the OP link BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #39
Huh! Control-Z Feb 2019 #14
I know; an actual super majority of BOTH parties!! oldsoftie Feb 2019 #25
Right? Control-Z Feb 2019 #32
Its sad that the first instinct is being suspicious isnt it oldsoftie Feb 2019 #33
Yes, it is sad. Control-Z Feb 2019 #41
Yeah, no kidding. calimary Feb 2019 #42
Apparently this has been in the works for years, involving truly grassroots efforts EleanorR Feb 2019 #15
This is good info! BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #23
That way, when it got to DC it already had local support instead of being shoved on them. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #27
So There Zinke! Me. Feb 2019 #16
Excellent! GeoWilliam750 Feb 2019 #17
Smacks of ear marks... paleotn Feb 2019 #18
That's how things always used to work there BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #24
Yep. I wondered who the nays were too... paleotn Feb 2019 #26
Rand Paul would likely be one. oldsoftie Feb 2019 #28
I am guessing at a minimum BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #29
Probably... paleotn Feb 2019 #30
Nays were all Republicans cannabis_flower Feb 2019 #31
No bacon for them. paleotn Feb 2019 #34
Thank you! BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #35
So Okiehoma was the only state where both opposed it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #44
Am I reading this right. I am just so shocked I don't know what to say. vsrazdem Feb 2019 #20
They're getting ready for 2020. Lonestarblue Feb 2019 #22
Had to double-check and make sure this wasn't from The Onion... Talitha Feb 2019 #36
What's up their sleeve? bluestarone Feb 2019 #38
Bringing home the bacon The Mouth Feb 2019 #40

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
4. The Senate
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 05:55 PM
Feb 2019

What are they drinking over there?

Of course, Trump will veto it. Maybe that's why they passed it...so they'd look good.

BumRushDaShow

(129,486 posts)
9. That could be the bingo.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:03 PM
Feb 2019


...Unless they passed it with enough to override. Am waiting for the rest of the story and the vote count.

wryter2000

(46,082 posts)
21. Holy crap
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:34 PM
Feb 2019

Really? 92-8? What is going on over there?

I doubt we could get 2/3 of the House, what with the Tea Party crazies, but if this is happening in the Senate, could things be changing?

it isn't April Fool's yet, is it?

BumRushDaShow

(129,486 posts)
10. They still have the voting open
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:06 PM
Feb 2019

It's still running on CSPAN2. Could watch for them to gavel it done and get the count.

RussBLib

(9,036 posts)
13. damn. It passed 92-8
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:20 PM
Feb 2019

I see very little downside in this legislation. I'm rather in shock. You mean the Republicans are actually capable of conserving? Wow.

I wonder what Texas got out of it? We only have one national park in Texas (Big Bend) but there are lots of areas that are deserving.

BumRushDaShow

(129,486 posts)
39. Found this graphic at the OP link
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:10 PM
Feb 2019


Doesn't look like any expansion in TX HOWEVER, further down in the article it says this -

The bill would also be a boon for another constituency — hunters and anglers.

Bow hunters would be allowed to bring their weapons through national parks when trying to reach areas where it is legal to hunt. More important, it makes all federal lands open to hunting, fishing, and recreational shooting unless otherwise specified.

Jesse Deubel, executive director of the New Mexico Wildlife Federation, said in an interview that expanding wilderness in his state will be a powerful lure for hunters seeking bighorn sheep, mule deer, quail and other animals. “People will travel to these places to pursue game in this wild, untamed habitat.”


That right there captures a whole constituency of GOPers and some purple state Democrats.

oldsoftie

(12,604 posts)
25. I know; an actual super majority of BOTH parties!!
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:04 PM
Feb 2019

You'd think it would take a Bill saying punching a baby is bad to get that kind of cooperation.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
41. Yes, it is sad.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 08:27 PM
Feb 2019

But the republican congress has gone out of their way to obstruct for so many years now it really is the only logical reaction.

EleanorR

(2,395 posts)
15. Apparently this has been in the works for years, involving truly grassroots efforts
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:21 PM
Feb 2019
John Gilroy, who directs U.S. public lands conservation at The Pew Charitable Trusts, said in an interview that the package’s more than 100 provisions arose from negotiations on the local level, which provided enough momentum to overcome the typical gridlock that has come to define Capitol Hill.

“What we saw all the way through was a sincere effort to get to yes on a lot of pieces that had local support, bipartisan support and support across the two bodies,” Gilroy said. “It’s been years in the works. These are not proposals that were thought up just last week, somewhere in Washington D.C.”

BumRushDaShow

(129,486 posts)
23. This is good info!
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:40 PM
Feb 2019

Thank you!

You really DO have to push "from the bottom up" and with enough of that, sometimes you can overcome that stasis that the GOP is known for when it comes to the environment and public lands!

oldsoftie

(12,604 posts)
27. That way, when it got to DC it already had local support instead of being shoved on them.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:06 PM
Feb 2019

Maybe thats the way to get other things done.

paleotn

(17,963 posts)
18. Smacks of ear marks...
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:29 PM
Feb 2019

You give me something for my state and I'll vote for your bill. It's the grease that lubricated the wheels of government for over 200 years. It also allowed small communities to receive needed infrastructure projects they would never get otherwise. It's way passed time we brought them back.

BumRushDaShow

(129,486 posts)
24. That's how things always used to work there
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:45 PM
Feb 2019

The GOP liked calling it "pork".

But then the one who made a name for himself as the most anti-earmark of them all (which is how I first stumbled upon him years ago watching the proceedings in the House, where he literally appeared at every single budget debate, complete with a list in hand) - Jeff Flake - has retired from the Senate so.....

Will have to see who the 8 "nays" were once the roll call is available.

paleotn

(17,963 posts)
26. Yep. I wondered who the nays were too...
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:04 PM
Feb 2019

Radical Rethugs, probably, who didn't bring home any bacon because they're "too pure" I'd bet. True believers...aka Idiots. There's always been a bit of waste with earmarks, but the ends more than justified the means, and a new post office in podunk is not what I would consider waste. Certainly not a new national monument or park.

BumRushDaShow

(129,486 posts)
29. I am guessing at a minimum
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:11 PM
Feb 2019

Rand Paul - Dr. No himself - is one. And I also wouldn't be surprised if a teabagger like Mike Lee objected as well (especially considering the land in Utah that has already been set aside in the past).

You might also have someone like Bernie say no because "it doesn't go far enough"...

But we shall see!

paleotn

(17,963 posts)
30. Probably...
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:16 PM
Feb 2019

I love Bernie's passion, but he has a very bad habit of letting the perfect get in the way of the good.

cannabis_flower

(3,765 posts)
31. Nays were all Republicans
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:21 PM
Feb 2019

Cruz (R-TX), Nay
Inhofe (R-OK), Nay
Johnson (R-WI), Nay
Lankford (R-OK), Nay
Lee (R-UT), Nay
Paul (R-KY), Nay
Sasse (R-NE), Nay
Toomey (R-PA), Nay

BumRushDaShow

(129,486 posts)
35. Thank you!
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:36 PM
Feb 2019


I was thinking both Texans but withheld to find out if my thoughts were correct.

Toomey is just clueless (maybe it is a hunting thing).

Lonestarblue

(10,078 posts)
22. They're getting ready for 2020.
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 06:37 PM
Feb 2019

Legislation like this gives Republicans a talking point to refute any Democratic claims of Zinke’s depredations.

Talitha

(6,617 posts)
36. Had to double-check and make sure this wasn't from The Onion...
Tue Feb 12, 2019, 07:59 PM
Feb 2019

Yeah, it makes me feel suspicious too.
Repugs doing something sensible, who'd a' thunk?
Wow.

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