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demmiblue

(36,875 posts)
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 02:52 PM Feb 2019

Wisconsin GOP spikes Colin Kaepernick's name from Black History Month resolution

Source: NBC

Wisconsin Republicans stripped Colin Kaepernick's name from a resolution recognizing Black History Month, saying the former NFL quarterback was too controversial to be included.

The state legislature's Black Caucus drafted a resolution honoring February as Black History Month and named several American-American leaders — including the Wisconsin-born Kaepernick, who famously kneeled during the national anthem while on the San Francisco 49ers to protest systematic racism in the United States.

Kaepernick's name drew the ire of Wisconsin Republicans, who amended the resolution that took out his name.

Assembly Majority Leader Jim Steineke, who is white, said Tuesday that Kaepernick's name was too controversial and had to go "for obvious reasons."

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/wisconsin-lawmakers-spike-colin-kaepernick-s-name-black-history-month-n971161?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma



Who the fuck do they think they are?!
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sdfernando

(4,940 posts)
1. WTF is wrong with Wisconsin
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 02:58 PM
Feb 2019

I used to think it would be a neat place to visit....but I wouldn't set foot in that state now. Can better spend my $$ elsewhere.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
3. He's not controversial - he's an affront to their racisim and bigotry.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 03:19 PM
Feb 2019

They don't like being challenged and called out on their white privilege. They are idiots though. They just got him MORE recognition and hopefully that will get more people talking about the reasons Kaepernick took a knee in the first place.

turbinetree

(24,713 posts)
4. Well the racists Koch network is alive still, look at the legislature and the judical system in the
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 03:20 PM
Feb 2019

state....................they are still owned by the Kochs' and now FoxxCON...........................


When the democrats take back the courts and the legislature, they should pass a bill removing all things walker and company.......................I know its spiteful........................but you know what fuck it....................he and the Koch's are not role models..............................

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
6. I always though that, in a "democracy"
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 04:12 PM
Feb 2019

There was no price to pay for FREE speech.

This is no longer a democracy. Never really has been a democracy. It's all a lie. That's why that liar trump is president. Lies are what make America great. The truth would expose us for what we truly are.

And great that isn't.

Jedi Guy

(3,246 posts)
10. His free speech isn't being abridged by the government.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:45 PM
Feb 2019

That's all the First Amendment really says regarding speech. You can say what you like (with narrow exceptions like threatening violence) and the government can't punish you for it.

Otherwise, though, there may well be consequences from other quarters for the things you say. Freedom of speech has never meant that you can say whatever you want with zero consequences.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
11. Freedom of Speech
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 10:51 AM
Feb 2019

By definition, isn't freedom of speech if or when there are "consequences".

Particularly when those consequences aren't equally enforced. Like today.

Jedi Guy

(3,246 posts)
14. Again, all the First Amendment says is that the government can't punish you for your speech.
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 12:56 PM
Feb 2019

The government can't toss you in jail because you criticize Trump. Or it couldn't toss conservatives in jail when they criticized Obama. Congress shall make no law, etc. etc. That doesn't mean that your speech won't have other consequences from other quarters.

By your definition of "freedom of speech," a person who is fired because they made a racist comment is having their freedom of speech illegally abridged by their employer. Somehow I doubt that you get this up in arms about freedom of speech when a racist loses their job because of their views. Don't they have the freedom to say whatever they want without consequences? Or do you only object to consequences for speech you agree with?

I don't have total freedom of speech at my job. When I'm at work, on the clock, that's my employer's time. I don't have the freedom to do or say whatever I like at work. I can't stop working, jump up on my desk, and launch into a 30-minute speech about how the Trump Administration is a farce. I can't walk up to my boss and call him an asshole and expect zero consequences. In neither of those instances can the government punish me, but in both my employer can punish me. The same is true for the NFL.

Your definition of freedom of speech is, to be quite frank, ludicrous. There have always been consequences for speech.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
12. PS - Freedom of Speech Modern View
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 10:58 AM
Feb 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_in_the_United_States#First_Amendment_ratification

Modern view

"As a result of the jurisprudence of the Warren Court in the mid-to-late 20th century, the Court has moved towards a baseline default rule under which freedom of speech is generally presumed to be protected, unless a specific exception applies. Therefore, apart from certain narrow exceptions, the government normally cannot regulate the content of speech. In 1971, in Cohen v. California, Justice John Marshall Harlan II, citing Whitney v. California, emphasized that the First Amendment operates to protect the inviolability of "a marketplace of ideas", while Associate Justice Thurgood Marshall cogently explained in 1972 that:

[A]bove all else, the First Amendment means that government has no power to restrict expression because of its message, its ideas, its subject matter, or its content. [Citations.] To permit the continued building of our politics and culture, and to assure self-fulfillment for each individual, our people are guaranteed the right to express any thought, free from government censorship. The essence of this forbidden censorship is content control. Any restriction on expressive activity because of its content would completely undercut the 'profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open.' [Citation.][15]"

Colin Kapernick did not participate in any form of specific exception.

And another PS - federal law, and The Constitution, pertain to and supersede any "other quarters" - such as the blatantly racist NFL which has no problem destroying the brains of its players but just can't seem to allow them to exercise their CONSTITUTIONAL free speech rights - without fear of reprisal - which is paying a price for free speech.

It's not free if you have to pay for it. I'm really surprised I have to say that.

Well, today, I'm not as surprised as I used to be.
 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
13. When Tim Tebow takes a knee
Thu Feb 14, 2019, 11:01 AM
Feb 2019

To exercise his religious beliefs he's a religious hero.

When Colin Kapernick takes a knee to exercise his moral beliefs he's banned from the NFL.

Who gets to decide what free speech is in cases like this? The answer is; NO ONE gets to decide. It's already been decided and all they're doing is bastardizing free speech to limit ideas they don't agree with.

And free speech views that claim there's price to pay support that.

That's not free speech.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
7. Jim Steineke is a Republican. Show of hands who is surprised by this?
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 05:27 PM
Feb 2019

Modern Republicans can't help showing their racism.

truthisfreedom

(23,152 posts)
9. "For obvious reasons"For racist/fascist reasons.
Wed Feb 13, 2019, 06:22 PM
Feb 2019

Our president chose to insert himself into private business and private citizens’ freedom of speech, for purely racist reasons.

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