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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:18 AM Feb 2019

'Illegal and treasonous!' Trump calls his own deputy AG a traitor in crazed early morning tweet

Source: RawStory



BRAD REED
18 FEB 2019 AT 07:36 ET

President Donald Trump on Monday accused his own deputy attorney general of being a traitor in an unhinged early morning Twitter rant.

Referencing former deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe’s interview with “60 Minutes” on Sunday, Trump lashed out at both McCabe and Rosenstein, who suggested wearing a wire to capture audio of Trump obstructing justice.

“Wow, so many lies by now disgraced acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe,” the president wrote. “He was fired for lying, and now his story gets even more deranged. He and Rod Rosenstein, who was hired by Jeff Sessions (another beauty), look like they were planning a very illegal act, and got caught. There is a lot of explaining to do to the millions of people who had just elected a president who they really like and who has done a great job for them with the Military, Vets, Economy and so much more. This was the illegal and treasonous ‘insurance policy’ in full action!”






Rosenstein considered wearing a wire after Trump fired former FBI Director James Comey and then reportedly told Russian government officials that sacking Comey had taken off “pressure” that was on him because of the Russia investigation.

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'Illegal and treasonous!' Trump calls his own deputy AG a traitor in crazed early morning tweet (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2019 OP
SMH Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #1
It is difficult to celibrate Presidents day when we don't have a legally elected president. olegramps Feb 2019 #34
It's always been hard.... zentrum Feb 2019 #42
I suppose the scariest thing is twofold... Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #47
speak for yourself Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #53
I can speak for no one but myself, however, Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #59
McCabe didn't do Rosenstein - or the rest of US - any favors with that interview. Squinch Feb 2019 #2
Disagree. rainin Feb 2019 #18
He could have done all that without throwing Rosenstein under the bus. From where I sit, Squinch Feb 2019 #21
Did he say anything new about Rosenstein? rainin Feb 2019 #24
Trump has an attention span of a fruit-fly janterry Feb 2019 #31
Right trump would not have remembered it.... pangaia Feb 2019 #40
Rosenstein didn't wear a wire but I do wonder gldstwmn Feb 2019 #51
McCabe is on the money. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2019 #32
Disagree.... Pachamama Feb 2019 #27
reassuring thought. n/t MBS Feb 2019 #45
I hope you're right. Squinch Feb 2019 #46
I bet he wouldn't have done interview marlakay Feb 2019 #49
I have worried about this, too janterry Feb 2019 #30
I have to agree but only watched clips of the interview and what MSM has reported yaesu Feb 2019 #38
Aaand McCabe's book is currently the #1 best seller on Amazon. tanyev Feb 2019 #3
Go back to sleep donnie .... CatMor Feb 2019 #4
Malignant evil never takes a holiday YessirAtsaFact Feb 2019 #5
SH** always stinks, 7x24, no rest for the evil orange in the WH. n/t RKP5637 Feb 2019 #6
It's President's Day....he wakes up, sees his shadow....... lastlib Feb 2019 #16
Good one ... Very funny CatMor Feb 2019 #37
"Crazed" is exactly the word. MBS Feb 2019 #7
"When you elect a clown, volstork Feb 2019 #22
yup. n/t MBS Feb 2019 #44
25th Amendment DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #8
The problem is that Rosenstein wouldn't be involved in a 25th Ammendment decision ripcord Feb 2019 #41
True, but if Rosenstein was that concerned DeminPennswoods Feb 2019 #55
Who caught them? Marcuse Feb 2019 #9
#MarALardass CatWoman Feb 2019 #10
Trump speaks to his hardcore base Martin Eden Feb 2019 #11
The apathetic middle is catching on Dunnjen Feb 2019 #33
Trump's Tell Tale Heart .... tweets. Botany Feb 2019 #12
Ok, here is something that needs to change as well Perseus Feb 2019 #13
We should also not say he was elected. rainin Feb 2019 #20
Monday's first completely nuts tweet by the unpopularly elected occupant. Firestorm49 Feb 2019 #14
He hires the best people......25 45!! lastlib Feb 2019 #15
All abored tho! Dunnjen Feb 2019 #35
More projection from the *hitbag in Chief. * BostonBlue Feb 2019 #17
SOMEBODY is worried....... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #19
Looks like he doesn't know what "treason" means either. nt Codeine Feb 2019 #23
McCabe was stupid for doing this interview, duforsure Feb 2019 #25
Maybe...the book and the interview were carefully crafted to ensnare Trump and more of his.... machoneman Feb 2019 #52
"...who was hired by Jeff Sessions ..." OnlinePoker Feb 2019 #26
Sessions pretty awful, somewhat trumplike, character in his own right. empedocles Feb 2019 #29
Trump is rounding up his potential allies when he attempts to dem4decades Feb 2019 #28
"Fired for lying"? Okay then. Can we do that to trump? calimary Feb 2019 #36
REPUBLICANS ARE COWARDS for not getting rid of this asshole. pangaia Feb 2019 #39
There's something (lol, as if just one) thing I don't understand. Cracklin Charlie Feb 2019 #43
FBI agent Peter Strzok mentioned to Lisa Page that they had "insurance policy" if Trump won wishstar Feb 2019 #54
Thank you, wishstar! Cracklin Charlie Feb 2019 #60
'Crazed' is correct. elleng Feb 2019 #48
Conspiring with the Russians is treasonous too Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #50
He either a traitor, nuts, or both. I'm going with both. n/t Julian Englis Feb 2019 #56
Fat Donny will never get it. moondust Feb 2019 #57
another example of Trump seeing himself in others... olddad56 Feb 2019 #58

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
34. It is difficult to celibrate Presidents day when we don't have a legally elected president.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:34 AM
Feb 2019

I don't recognize the validity of an election in which there was flagrant voter suppression of the opposition and collusion with sworn enemies of our nation. I apply this principle to numerous local and state elections that are clearly in violation of the right of every citizen to cast their vote unimpeded. This is the bedrock principle upon which our nation was founded. It is the very sacred right of the a government to be established by majority rule of the voters not by capricious fiat of the president. My objections extend to the use of so called "dirty tricks" that have been employed by the Republicans dating for the election of Richard Nixon. They have used this tool to malign the opposition to gain office by spreading malicious rumors to a gullible segment of the electorate. It is a cancer that left unopposed will be the downfall for the country. I am further opposed to the use of executive authority by any president to impose their will on the people. I would rather suffer injustice before sanctioning a defacto dictatorship.

There has been a creeping justification and tolerance of authoritarianism of the presidency by both major political parties justified by the need for expediency rather than forcing the congress to resolve the difficulty. If it is allowed to continue without challenge it most assuredly will result in the ultimate loss of our cherished liberties.




zentrum

(9,865 posts)
42. It's always been hard....
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:03 PM
Feb 2019

...unless you buy into the hagiography we're fed from first grade.

10 of the first 12 Presidents were slave owners. Lincoln himself was racist. LBJ, Reagan and two Bushes got us into ruinous illegal wars responsible for the deaths of millions of people, collectively.

It ought to be a day of atonement or truth and reconciliation.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
47. I suppose the scariest thing is twofold...
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 01:38 PM
Feb 2019

that we as a nation seem to be accepting of this atrocity and also that we feel so helpless as individuals to do anything to remove this illegal regime.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
59. I can speak for no one but myself, however,
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 05:57 PM
Feb 2019

not sure what I said that was so offensive to you. And no, they do not always "grind exceedingly fine". America has war criminals walking around like hero's and we are helpless to do a fucking thing about it.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
18. Disagree.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:50 AM
Feb 2019

Spoke out loud that Individual 1, trump himself, was under investigation from day 1 for conspiring with Russia to throw the election.

Spoke out loud that he believes (or suspects) that we have a Russian agent in the White House.

I can't speak to how this affects the investigation, but I'm personally glad to finally move the needle in the direction of saying out loud what we all know to be true.

Now, when Malcolm Nance, or others, come out and call him a Russian agent, there will hopefully be less gasping followed by pearl clutching.

It is time to speak the truth out loud.

Squinch

(51,014 posts)
21. He could have done all that without throwing Rosenstein under the bus. From where I sit,
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:07 AM
Feb 2019

Rosenstein is one of the few relatively sane people standing between us and a trump with unfettered power.

Not trump has a case to get Rosenstein fired.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
24. Did he say anything new about Rosenstein?
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:12 AM
Feb 2019

I heard two things: Rosenstein offering to wear a wire and discussing the 25th amendment. Both of those have been reported previously and had their brief cycle of outrage. That he is still there makes me think there are forces keeping him there.

Did I miss something else?

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
31. Trump has an attention span of a fruit-fly
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:28 AM
Feb 2019

This puts the story back in his little pea brain and ammunition to act.

Time will tell whether or not this will be good for the country. It's sure good for McCabe's reputation and book (I can understand why he wants to defend himself, he was right - and a patriot).

Whether this helps the country, by being reinforced/retold at this moment - idk.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
51. Rosenstein didn't wear a wire but I do wonder
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 03:26 PM
Feb 2019

if General Flynn did. We have heard precious little about his case.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
32. McCabe is on the money.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:32 AM
Feb 2019

He did what was right. What other options did he and his co-workers have when they saw and heard what they saw and heard? Where were they going to do, and what were they going to do, when confronted with the obvious fact that Trumpy is a Russian agent and he's president of the US? They had a duty to uphold. They had a nation and a Constitution to protect. And they KNEW that Congress was complicit with Trumpy and the Russians. How were they to conduct themselves when faced with the awesome responsibility of protecting the nation from a Russian coup?

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
27. Disagree....
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:20 AM
Feb 2019

I am certain that he is also coordinating and following recommendations from Robert Mueller the Special Counsel - and former FBI Director...



There is a bigger picture here and Trump is an idiot....

marlakay

(11,498 posts)
49. I bet he wouldn't have done interview
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:59 PM
Feb 2019

Without talking to Mueller about it first.

I am positive he doesn’t want to screw it up!

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
38. I have to agree but only watched clips of the interview and what MSM has reported
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:53 AM
Feb 2019

I think the Rosenstein thing was turned around by tRump, making him look like the victim, conspiracy to overthrow the gov, all that crap. It didn't do the investigation any good plus MSM claims he's walking back his statements which is never a good thing. May have been done for his book, maybe got carried away a little.

tanyev

(42,618 posts)
3. Aaand McCabe's book is currently the #1 best seller on Amazon.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:24 AM
Feb 2019

You're doing some great PR work for him, Donnie!

lastlib

(23,288 posts)
16. It's President's Day....he wakes up, sees his shadow.......
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:46 AM
Feb 2019

....and we get 12 more months of bullshit.......

MBS

(9,688 posts)
7. "Crazed" is exactly the word.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:45 AM
Feb 2019

Two+ years into this nightmare, it's still shocking to see this juvenile, uninformed, unhinged, delusional verbiage coming from the president of the United States.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
8. 25th Amendment
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 09:57 AM
Feb 2019

Trump's clear mental instability, that Rosenstein undoubtedly saw up close and personal, must be what prompted the talk of possible invocation of the 25th Amendment. Sadly, that amendment seems geared toward physical incapacitation of the president. It doesn't address mental health - likely something no one anticipated at all.

ripcord

(5,537 posts)
41. The problem is that Rosenstein wouldn't be involved in a 25th Ammendment decision
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:02 PM
Feb 2019

The VP, Cabinet Secretaries and the AG make that call.

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
55. True, but if Rosenstein was that concerned
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 04:40 PM
Feb 2019

about Trump's mental state or that he was a clear and present danger to US national security, then discussing what options are available to remove a president from office is prudent, at the very least.

Marcuse

(7,508 posts)
9. Who caught them?
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:18 AM
Feb 2019
Wow, so many lies by now disgraced acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe. He was fired for lying, and now his story gets even more deranged. He and Rod Rosenstein, who was hired by Jeff Sessions (another beauty), look like they were planning a very illegal act, and got caught.....

Martin Eden

(12,875 posts)
11. Trump speaks to his hardcore base
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:20 AM
Feb 2019

Hopefully, his increasingly unhinged and unconstitutional behavior will peel off the rest of his support.

Dunnjen

(65 posts)
33. The apathetic middle is catching on
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:32 AM
Feb 2019

At least that's what I hope will be a significant side effect of the infighting. 60 minutes is not a partisan show, IMO, and I'm counting on regular people tuning into the nightmare and realizing the President is WRONG and BAD.

Botany

(70,585 posts)
12. Trump's Tell Tale Heart .... tweets.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:31 AM
Feb 2019

"The Tell-Tale Heart" is a first-person narrative of an unnamed narrator, who insists that they are sane, but is suffering from a disease (nervousness) which causes "over-acuteness of the senses". Due to the ambiguity surrounding the identity of the story's narrator, the narrator's gender is uncertain. from wiki

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
13. Ok, here is something that needs to change as well
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:34 AM
Feb 2019

1. The orange buffoon is a servant of the people
2. The FBI, AGs, Deputy Attorneys, etc. ARE NOT HIS
3. The country IS NOT HIS

Why do we continue to say these things are HIS? The only ones to believe it are the buffoon and his followers. None of it belongs to him, they all serve the country and its people.

Sorry but it turns my stomach when I hear them say "HIS OWN AG", or "HIS OWN whatever"...none of it belongs to him, that he thinks otherwise is another story, but language has to be clear, thoughts must be concise, there should never be any doubt on what the message is.

Every time one of my kids says to me "you know what I meant", they get the same speech, you do not leave openings for anyone to interpret what you really mean because the outcome, for the most part, will always be wrong, that is why language exists, we use it to convey our thoughts clearly and as concise as possible to avoid interpretations.

So, two things that must change:
1. Never again should we use the word "collusion", the word is "conspiracy".
2. Never again should we say that anything that belongs to the American people are HIS, because they are not.

Good morning everyone.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
20. We should also not say he was elected.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:53 AM
Feb 2019

We still don't know that. And we won't until a thorough audit can be done of voting machines. I think time will prove he was "installed".

Firestorm49

(4,037 posts)
14. Monday's first completely nuts tweet by the unpopularly elected occupant.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:42 AM
Feb 2019

But wait, the day is young, let’s all sit by our phones and wait for the next one. What a goober.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,793 posts)
19. SOMEBODY is worried.......
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 10:52 AM
Feb 2019

That he got caught subplanting the US Constitution and trying to get away with bad shit.

The rantings of a DESPOT.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
25. McCabe was stupid for doing this interview,
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:15 AM
Feb 2019

But trump is even dumber when he's claimed all along McCabe is a liar, so why is he accepting anything he said as the truth ? He picks and chooses what he wants to believe so he can use it against others with it. The liar is trump not McCabe , but now McCabe has put Rosenstein in a terrible position, again. Not smart.

machoneman

(4,010 posts)
52. Maybe...the book and the interview were carefully crafted to ensnare Trump and more of his....
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 03:28 PM
Feb 2019

associates? No doubt he ran a lot of this past Mueller's team not just to protect grand jury stuff but also to draw out that silly bastard Trump into even more trouble. I would not doubt it.

OnlinePoker

(5,725 posts)
26. "...who was hired by Jeff Sessions ..."
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:18 AM
Feb 2019

Who was hired by you, Donny. Blames everyone but himself for the shit-show in the White House.

dem4decades

(11,304 posts)
28. Trump is rounding up his potential allies when he attempts to
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:21 AM
Feb 2019

Overthrow the Justice Department and the Constitution. Always mentions the military and he always caters to the local police.

calimary

(81,500 posts)
36. "Fired for lying"? Okay then. Can we do that to trump?
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:37 AM
Feb 2019

We’d have to fire him more than 12-thousand times over, or whatever the NYTimes lying-out-his-ass count is by now.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
43. There's something (lol, as if just one) thing I don't understand.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 12:51 PM
Feb 2019

About these tweets.

What is the “insurance policy” thing he keeps referring to? Who is insuring, and who benefits from said insurance?

I must’ve missed something.

wishstar

(5,271 posts)
54. FBI agent Peter Strzok mentioned to Lisa Page that they had "insurance policy" if Trump won
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 04:33 PM
Feb 2019

in those text messages that were revealed, he reassured her that Trump wouldn't win but if he did win, they had an insurance policy- by which Strzok is thought to have been referring to the already ongoing FBI counterintelligence investigation into Trump and his campaign and Russia so our country would be still protected if Trump did win, since FBI was onto him.

elleng

(131,123 posts)
48. 'Crazed' is correct.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 02:13 PM
Feb 2019

It's about time for congress-members and CABINET members to get their/our acts together, and do their job: 'Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.'

moondust

(20,006 posts)
57. Fat Donny will never get it.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 05:39 PM
Feb 2019

These guys he calls traitors are all Republicans and have decades of government experience working with and for Republicans and Democrats. Years of real-world experience has taught them what's "normal" and what's not. Working in counterintelligence has given some of them specialized knowledge of the very issues surrounding foreign interference in the 2016 election.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
58. another example of Trump seeing himself in others...
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 05:52 PM
Feb 2019

It started with 'crooked Hillary' when in fact Trump is absolutely a crook. Then 'Hillary is trying to rig the election', 'Lying Ted', 'fake news', and on and on. Anytime Trump makes a statement like he did against McCabe, the statement is true, not about the person, or entity, he is attempting to denigrate, but it is a true statement about himself.

Just turn it around, if he calls McCabe a traitor, it is because he, himself is a traitor.

You can do this about every lie he makes. 'No Collusion, means there is collusion, 'Russian didn't interfere in our election', means Russia absolutely interfered in our election. Take any statement he ever makes and turn it around, then you have a true statement. This is right out of Hitler's playbook.

How fucking stupid does he think 65% of the people are.

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