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muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:33 AM Feb 2019

Three Tory MPs defect to fledgling Independent Group

Source: The Guardian

Three Conservative MPs have quit the party to join the Independent Group founded by former Labour MPs.

In what will be seen as a rebuke to Theresa May, Anna Soubry, Sarah Wollaston and Heidi Allen said the Tories had lurched to the right, adopting Ukip policies and pursuing a hard Brexit.

The Independent Group was formed on Monday by seven former Labour MPs, including Chuka Umunna, Luciana Berger and Chris Leslie. Joan Ryan became the eighth MP to quit Labour and join the group on Tuesday night. They said they felt it necessary to leave Labour because of the leadership’s Brexit policy and failure to tackle antisemitism in the party.

In a letter to the prime minister, the three MPs wrote: “We no longer feel we can remain in the party of a government whose policies and priorities are so firmly in the grip of the ERG and DUP.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/20/tory-mps-defect-independent-group-soubry-allen-wollaston



Not surprising, since they've been consistently pro-EU. Wollaston has always seems too sensible for the Tories (a former GP who defends the NHS) - she was originally selected in a rare 'open primary'-style contest in her constituency.

Letter to May:


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Three Tory MPs defect to fledgling Independent Group (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Feb 2019 OP
These party defectors IMO should align with the Lib Dems. mwooldri Feb 2019 #1
Absolutely T_i_B Feb 2019 #3
Interesting... BlueIdaho Feb 2019 #4
I do actually! T_i_B Feb 2019 #5
Thanks! BlueIdaho Feb 2019 #6
Kick and recommend. bronxiteforever Feb 2019 #2

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
1. These party defectors IMO should align with the Lib Dems.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:49 AM
Feb 2019

At first glance their policies seem to be aligned with standard Lib Dem policy. Being independent for now may be a good thing but in time they might want a political party to back them.

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
3. Absolutely
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:41 PM
Feb 2019

But tribalism is still strong in British politics.

My own MP (Angela Smith, she of the "funny tinge" gaffe) has left Labour for TIG. She needs to work with the Liberal Democrats going forward. The trouble is that she's well known for being extremely tribal and personally obnoxious towards them going all the way back to her days on Sheffield City Council. She's going to have to change her ways if she is serious about forging new alliances.

T_i_B

(14,749 posts)
5. I do actually!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:20 PM
Feb 2019

Although the legacy of the coalition remains a huge problem for the Liberal Democrats.

It all comes down to how willing people on all sides are to put the past aside and work together. We can't afford for all this to descend into a "centrist" version of the People's Front of Judea.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
6. Thanks!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:06 PM
Feb 2019

My wife and I have been visiting the UK for over a decade now, but I admit I am not very well acquainted with the Lib Dems - other than their one stab at a coalition government. I appreciate your insight.

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