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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:35 PM Feb 2019

Arizona Republican claims vaccines are just like Communism in bizarre tirade

Source: Raw Story

SARAH K. BURRIS
28 FEB 2019 AT 16:30 ET



Arizona State Republican Kelly Townsend (Photo: Official Facebook)

In a Facebook post, Arizona State Representative Kelly Townsend made the case that vaccines are somehow part of a Communist plot.

“The most holy and sacred last frontier of sovereignty is our own body,” the Republican wrote. “Dearest friends and people of Arizona, it seems we are prepared to give up our liberty, the very sovereignty of our body, because of measles.”

According to the Phoenix New Times, Gov. Doug Ducey (R-AZ) announced Wednesday that he was “pro-vaccination and anti-measles.” The disease was once eradicated, but an uptick in anti-vaccine parents have caused outbreaks in several states. Ducey has promised, “not to sign any legislation that would reduce the number of children being vaccinated.”

Similar to measles, there were 29 cases of polio reported in 2018. According to the World Health Organization, when any child is diagnosed with polio, all children run the risk of contracting it. Children that are too young to be vaccinated now run a higher risk of contracting such diseases by children whose parents refused to vaccinate them. Those infants often do not yet have a strong enough immune system to help fight the viruses.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/02/arizona-republican-claims-vaccines-just-like-communism-bizarre-tirade/?utm_source=push_notifications

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Arizona Republican claims vaccines are just like Communism in bizarre tirade (Original Post) Judi Lynn Feb 2019 OP
Holy crap! Sarah Palin's exact double? Initech Feb 2019 #1
More like Sarah Palin + Meth DrToast Feb 2019 #6
It's her stupider sister. louis-t Feb 2019 #17
They don't really look alike, but both are RWNJs DesertRat Feb 2019 #20
Very scary ck4829 Feb 2019 #25
Those earrings with a suit? stopwastingmymoney Mar 2019 #53
We in AZ are "blessed" with many of these crazies Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #2
Oh yes. Sylvia Allen is one example DesertRat Feb 2019 #27
It's the dry heat. nt blugbox Feb 2019 #33
"The most holy and sacred last frontier of sovereignty is our own body" justgamma Feb 2019 #3
Want to bet she's anti-choice? PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2019 #4
You beat me to it. volstork Feb 2019 #15
Want to bet SHE was vaccinated at birth ? Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #32
Well there you go jberryhill Feb 2019 #41
The stupid, it burns. area51 Feb 2019 #5
'Communist' is the worst epithet they know. Aristus Feb 2019 #7
+1 ck4829 Feb 2019 #21
Idiots like her make communism worth looking into ArizonaLib Feb 2019 #31
I don't want communism, but the way Republicans talk about communism... ck4829 Mar 2019 #50
That was my thinking ArizonaLib Mar 2019 #51
I'm just keeping the conversation kicked and alive my friend ck4829 Mar 2019 #52
And she's against abortion. Solly Mack Feb 2019 #8
I guess her staff probably stands behind her logosoco Feb 2019 #9
Yes. It's awful when that happens. Judi Lynn Feb 2019 #26
or fix her hair? She looks like she could use a shampoo and set yellowdogintexas Mar 2019 #54
Well, at least it's not socialism! n/t hibbing Feb 2019 #10
Hold up, that's the HPV vaccine specifically. *That's* socialism. ck4829 Feb 2019 #24
... Aristus Feb 2019 #11
This apnu Feb 2019 #14
It's all about fluoridation! tclambert Feb 2019 #47
Yep workinclasszero Feb 2019 #48
Yep ck4829 Mar 2019 #49
Real life Dr. Strangelove moment! apnu Feb 2019 #12
Sterling Hayden. See above. Aristus Feb 2019 #16
They are all losing their fucking minds. louis-t Feb 2019 #13
Wait until her kid is made deaf by measles. volstork Feb 2019 #18
George Soros did it! ck4829 Feb 2019 #23
Or if not the god's will angle, it would be "why didn't somebody let us know this could happen?" yonder Feb 2019 #39
Before vaccine was available my brother got polio at the age of 5 katmondoo Feb 2019 #19
I went to high school with children who had struggled with polio. Haggis for Breakfast Feb 2019 #37
K&R. This is just stupid. ck4829 Feb 2019 #22
Anyone who is anti-vaccine should not be allowed a driver's license, nor should their children be truthisfreedom Feb 2019 #28
Oxford study reports strong link between populists Hortensis Feb 2019 #29
"I'm still really angry that smallpox was eradicated!" struggle4progress Feb 2019 #30
She must be pro-choice! NastyRiffraff Feb 2019 #34
The pro-measles and pro-polio lobbyist must have really upped their game recently Sapient Donkey Feb 2019 #35
Wanted: A vaccine to protect us from Townsend's crazy conspiracies struggle4progress Feb 2019 #36
No public school enrollment for any child not vaccinated. They can try to enroll at LuckyLib Feb 2019 #38
The US deserves to collapse and disappear if we're going to keep putting such idiots in charge FiveGoodMen Feb 2019 #40
You can't spell crazy without R-AZ Nac Mac Feegle Feb 2019 #42
Our vital body fluids are in danger! (Clutches pearls) yellowcanine Feb 2019 #43
Where do republicans forklift Feb 2019 #44
Proof that the education system MissMillie Feb 2019 #45
It is a communist plot, just not the one she thinks. WhiteTara Feb 2019 #46
Interesting she mentioned Communism, since anti-vax crusade is being aided by Putin's Panich52 Mar 2019 #55
playing devils advocate here.. Fix The Stupid Mar 2019 #56

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
2. We in AZ are "blessed" with many of these crazies
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:39 PM
Feb 2019

in the repub party. There are worse ones if you can believe it.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
27. Oh yes. Sylvia Allen is one example
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:19 PM
Feb 2019

She's the one who proposed making it mandatory for all Americans to attend Sunday church services. She's from Snowflake like Jeff Flake and is also LDS. And a Creationist.
She also once said during a committee hearing about uranium mining that the earth is 6,000 years old.

justgamma

(3,666 posts)
3. "The most holy and sacred last frontier of sovereignty is our own body"
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:41 PM
Feb 2019

except if you're a woman. Then the government must step in. Stupid hypocrite.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
41. Well there you go
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:08 PM
Feb 2019

Michelle Bachmann said it causes “mental retardation” and we all laughed at her.

If this lady was vaccinated at birth then it might be worth another look.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
7. 'Communist' is the worst epithet they know.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:47 PM
Feb 2019

They use it all they can, because it's easier than thinking...

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
31. Idiots like her make communism worth looking into
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:52 PM
Feb 2019

She's gotta keep saying this crap periodically to keep the Koch money spigots primed.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
50. I don't want communism, but the way Republicans talk about communism...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 12:46 AM
Mar 2019

I kinda like THAT communism. Because apparently decency is communism to them.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
8. And she's against abortion.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:47 PM
Feb 2019

Look it up. I did.

So much for "holy and sacred last frontier of sovereignty is our own body".

Idiot.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
9. I guess her staff probably stands behind her
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:49 PM
Feb 2019

hypocrisy, but couldn't at least one of them told her to straighten out her glasses for her official Facebook page photo?

tclambert

(11,086 posts)
47. It's all about fluoridation!
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 11:08 PM
Feb 2019

Mandrake, do you know they put fluoride in ice cream--children's ice cream?

apnu

(8,756 posts)
12. Real life Dr. Strangelove moment!
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:54 PM
Feb 2019

Next she's going to tell us about the Commie plot with fluoridation of water. I wonder, how is her George C. Scott impression?

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
13. They are all losing their fucking minds.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:54 PM
Feb 2019

Tripping over each other trying to out-asshole the orange menace.

volstork

(5,401 posts)
18. Wait until her kid is made deaf by measles.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:56 PM
Feb 2019

Then she'll likely sing a different tune.

(Or maybe not, since I guess it would just be "god's will".)

yonder

(9,666 posts)
39. Or if not the god's will angle, it would be "why didn't somebody let us know this could happen?"
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:15 PM
Feb 2019

followed by "If we had a functioning government that actually cared about it's people......blah..., blah..."


effin clueless.

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
19. Before vaccine was available my brother got polio at the age of 5
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 05:57 PM
Feb 2019

He was paralyzed from the neck down. When he recovered his left arm was permanently damaged and he was never able to use it.
He died young from an enlarged heart age 51 as a result of the polio damage. This is what you can look forward to without vaccination. Only a really cruel mother would wish this on her children. Polio is only one of many diseases that could come back.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
37. I went to high school with children who had struggled with polio.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:03 PM
Feb 2019

I'm old enough to remember the "iron lung" treatments. Polio is a horrible, ugly, debilitating condition. I recall the time the whole family went to a community health center on a Sunday to get the sugar cubes - the Sabin Oral Vaccine.

Polio had been eradicated in the human population word wide in the late 70s. How awful that it is making inroads again.

Here in Washington State, we had a huge measles outbreak recently. It spread to Portland, OR and Vancouver, B. C. (Canadians tend not to be anti-vaxxers, but the infection came from outside the Province.) A few years ago, we had an outbreak of Pertussis (whooping cough), FFS.

These anti-vaxxer idiots should be forced to sit bedside of the those dying from the stupidity of this movement.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)
28. Anyone who is anti-vaccine should not be allowed a driver's license, nor should their children be
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:20 PM
Feb 2019

allowed to attend public schools or leave the house, for that matter. People who don't understand vaccines don't understand infection.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Oxford study reports strong link between populists
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:25 PM
Feb 2019

and anti-vax passions. It makes sense. Populists tend to be suspicious and antagonistic toward what they think of as elites, who can be anyone they choose to target their hostility toward, and These days that very much includes our elected Democrats (just read some of the posts right here) and notably experts in medicine and other scientific fields. Populist groups lean heavily anti-science.

Currently the biggest populist leader on the left is Bernie Sanders. He spoke out sensibly FOR vaccinations back in 2015 and got a whole bunch of blowback for that from the kind of people he wanted to appeal to, some of whom are left-wing radical leaning and others who are socially conservative but want all those government benefits for themselves, if not necessarily for undeservings outside their tribe. Like Ms. Townsend here.

Four years later, I see nothing more from him on this topic, yet. It’s understandable if he lets other politicians step forward on this issue, and state governments are dealing with this anyway.

This says far more about the kind of people wannabe populist leaders in many nations are trying to draw from both right and left to create majorities. Sanders couldn’t control the Townsends in 2016, and there’s no reason to think he would be able to as the political climate becomes increasingly unstable.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
35. The pro-measles and pro-polio lobbyist must have really upped their game recently
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:01 PM
Feb 2019

Seems like every week there is a supposedly serious conservative (usually) making some batshit insane arguments against vaccines.

struggle4progress

(118,286 posts)
36. Wanted: A vaccine to protect us from Townsend's crazy conspiracies
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:01 PM
Feb 2019

Laurie Roberts, Arizona Republic
Published 1:43 p.m. MT Feb. 28, 2019
Updated 3:14 p.m. MT Feb. 28, 2019

... Townsend’s treatise comes just a day after Gov. Doug Ducey announced he will veto any crazy bills that would expand the number of school children who don’t have to be immunized.

At a time when health officials are increasingly worried about measles outbreaks due to declining vaccination rates among children, the House health committee last week passed a trio of bills aimed at expanding the number of children who don't have to get their childhood shots.

Virtually every major medical group begged our leaders not to bring back utterly preventable diseases, saying, “We implore you not to lead Arizona to the bottom and contribute to the spread of untold disease and human suffering.”

So, naturally, the bills passed on a partyline vote ...

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/laurieroberts/2019/02/28/rep-kelly-townsend-warns-communist-plot-force-immunizations/3019233002/

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
38. No public school enrollment for any child not vaccinated. They can try to enroll at
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:13 PM
Feb 2019

a private school, where parents (who actually have the power to make decisions) will promptly deny them entrance.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
40. The US deserves to collapse and disappear if we're going to keep putting such idiots in charge
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:24 PM
Feb 2019

There is no excuse for how stupid we are at this point in history.

Nac Mac Feegle

(971 posts)
42. You can't spell crazy without R-AZ
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:48 PM
Feb 2019

I've "lived" here 35 years, and there's never been a credible challenge to that statement.

MissMillie

(38,559 posts)
45. Proof that the education system
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 10:35 PM
Feb 2019

needs a MAJOR load of money.

Not only does this woman believe what she says, but PEOPLE VOTED FOR HER!!!!!

WhiteTara

(29,716 posts)
46. It is a communist plot, just not the one she thinks.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 10:39 PM
Feb 2019
http://eureka.news/free-parking-67/

Measles, Facebook and Russia seem like non-sequiturs that shouldn’t be grouped in the same sentence; but horrifying enough, they all belong together.

According to the CDC, measles is the most infectious of all preventable diseases; being airborne, it can transmit with stunning efficacy each time an infected person exhales. Unlike the flu virus, which requires close proximity, the measles virus spreads over space and time.

Considered eradicated in the U.S. since 2000 because of vaccinations, WHO now fears a global comeback as measles cases have recently spiked 30% worldwide. Shockingly, they cite Russia’s worldwide vaccination disinformation campaign being spread through Facebook and other social media.

read the rest http://eureka.news/free-parking-67/

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
55. Interesting she mentioned Communism, since anti-vax crusade is being aided by Putin's
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:49 PM
Mar 2019

destroy-the-West campaign.

Fix The Stupid

(948 posts)
56. playing devils advocate here..
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 03:20 PM
Mar 2019

But maybe we can remove and stop using that word "eradicated".

From dictionary.com

"verb (used with object), e·rad·i·cat·ed, e·rad·i·cat·ing.
to remove or destroy utterly; extirpate: to eradicate smallpox throughout the world."

And then this quote in the article above:

"The disease was once eradicated, but an uptick in anti-vaccine parents have caused outbreaks in several states"

Maybe these imbeciles see statements like this and think the disease is, well, "eradicated" and they have nothing to worry about? Hence the stupid decision not to vaccinate?

Can we use another word? "Contained" or something?

We have to dumb everything down for these people.





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