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demmiblue

(36,860 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:25 PM Feb 2019

Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance

Source: NYT

WASHINGTON — President Trump ordered his chief of staff to grant his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, a top-secret security clearance last year, overruling concerns flagged by intelligence officials and the White House’s top lawyer, four people briefed on the matter said.

Mr. Trump’s decision in May so troubled senior administration officials that at least one, the White House chief of staff at the time, John F. Kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been “ordered” to give Mr. Kushner the top-secret clearance.

The White House counsel at the time, Donald F. McGahn II, also wrote an internal memo outlining the concerns that had been raised about Mr. Kushner — including by the C.I.A. — and how Mr. McGahn had recommended that he not be given a top-secret clearance.

The disclosure of the memos contradicts statements made by the president, who told The New York Times in January in an Oval Office interview that he had no role in his son-in-law receiving his clearance.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/us/politics/jared-kushner-security-clearance.html






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Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance (Original Post) demmiblue Feb 2019 OP
K&R Scurrilous Feb 2019 #1
That's corruption Yosemito Feb 2019 #2
It's dangerous corruption NastyRiffraff Feb 2019 #9
Of course he did. And the minute he said he had nothing to do with it, any thinking person LuckyLib Feb 2019 #3
yup, Trump lied to their faces, again. But they will do nothing about it and Sarah TeamPooka Feb 2019 #17
No one is surprised SallyHemmings Feb 2019 #4
I swear I'm dreaming about this strange little fkr every night now Leghorn21 Feb 2019 #5
Talking about weird dreams.. defacto7 Feb 2019 #27
My lips are sealed but please defacto, Leghorn21 Feb 2019 #30
How do they keep getting away with this shit? Ohiogal Feb 2019 #6
They are enabled by the GOP. maxsolomon Feb 2019 #16
It requires a measure of political courage to issue s bold legal challenge. slumcamper Feb 2019 #19
K&R Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #7
I'll let this picture serve as my reaction. Bleacher Creature Feb 2019 #8
Nice to see it confirmed Leith Feb 2019 #10
I am so disgusted UpInArms Feb 2019 #11
The Wooing of Jared Kushner: How the Saudis Got a Friend in the White House demmiblue Feb 2019 #12
And he is meeting with them right now. FUCK nepotism. BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #18
Every time I see his evil face, I want to throw-up. demmiblue Feb 2019 #21
Which one... BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #23
Now that this outrage is out there NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #13
I wish I could forget, but no. maxsolomon Feb 2019 #15
Are the officials ok with this? bluestarone Feb 2019 #14
We knew all of this... Dixc Feb 2019 #20
Hehehe stopwastingmymoney Mar 2019 #36
This is 100% volstork Feb 2019 #22
TRump LIED again. yes. he. did..... riversedge Feb 2019 #24
Are the lies recorded on the day they occur or on the day they're found out? mobeau69 Feb 2019 #26
this isn't new news. but it's the times so ppl think it is. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #25
"But Hillary's emails!" sandensea Feb 2019 #28
If a Democratic POTUS did this ... holy shit ... mr_lebowski Feb 2019 #29
Why have rules about Security Clearances... tonekat Feb 2019 #31
Jared Kushner is one of the last people on Earth that should be getting democratisphere Feb 2019 #32
So Kelly and McGahm cover their asses kacekwl Feb 2019 #33
I think we're past "lock him up" jmowreader Feb 2019 #34
The federal employees in charge of these clearances indicated that many (40?) Evolve Dammit Feb 2019 #35
So Kelly let Trump push him around and let Trump's lies stand yerop Mar 2019 #37
The Kushner family needs to borrow $800 million for its latest venture. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #38
... Scurrilous Mar 2019 #39
"So no special treatment?" Ivanka: "No." demmiblue Mar 2019 #40
Republicans are okay with this. dalton99a Mar 2019 #41
So bring in Trump and Kelly to testify in congress... cbdo2007 Mar 2019 #42
CLEARANCES ARE NOT EASY TO BE EARNED ROB-ROX Mar 2019 #43

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
9. It's dangerous corruption
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:52 PM
Feb 2019

Giving someone who can be compromised a security clearance on any level, let alone the level Kushner got, is recklessly dangerous.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
3. Of course he did. And the minute he said he had nothing to do with it, any thinking person
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:32 PM
Feb 2019

knew he had done it. One huge web of lies.

TeamPooka

(24,228 posts)
17. yup, Trump lied to their faces, again. But they will do nothing about it and Sarah
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:18 PM
Feb 2019

Sanders won't come out of her rathole for a press briefing for another 6 weeks.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
5. I swear I'm dreaming about this strange little fkr every night now
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:40 PM
Feb 2019

Weird

well, tomorrow’s Friday.......

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
27. Talking about weird dreams..
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:02 PM
Feb 2019

I dreamt the other night that I cried on Obama's shoulder, then he offered me a beer. Now that's strange.

Don't tell anybody.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
30. My lips are sealed but please defacto,
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:09 PM
Feb 2019
can we trade dreams tonight??!

I LIKE BEER

and Barrack Obama, needless to say

Ohiogal

(32,004 posts)
6. How do they keep getting away with this shit?
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 06:46 PM
Feb 2019

Hundreds of infractions that would have made Rethug heads explode if they were done by a Democrat!

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
19. It requires a measure of political courage to issue s bold legal challenge.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:23 PM
Feb 2019

While I respect a stable and measured approach to governance, these times demand something more confrontational. If our shell of representative democracy is to survive, forceful confrontation is the only effective response to extralegal authoritarianism.

Certainly, Congress may evoke its own emergency powers and exercise authority to preserve and protect our Constitution and rule of law.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
11. I am so disgusted
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:03 PM
Feb 2019

That this just keeps being the status quo

These peeps should be in prison, not at the executive branch of our government

demmiblue

(36,860 posts)
12. The Wooing of Jared Kushner: How the Saudis Got a Friend in the White House
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:03 PM
Feb 2019


Senior American officials were worried. Since the early months of the Trump administration, Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and Middle East adviser, had been having private, informal conversations with Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the favorite son of Saudi Arabia’s king.

Given Mr. Kushner’s political inexperience, the private exchanges could make him susceptible to Saudi manipulation, said three former senior American officials. In an effort to tighten practices at the White House, a new chief of staff tried to reimpose longstanding procedures stipulating that National Security Council staff members should participate in all calls with foreign leaders.

But even with the restrictions in place, Mr. Kushner, 37, and Prince Mohammed, 33, kept chatting, according to three former White House officials and two others briefed by the Saudi royal court. In fact, they said, the two men were on a first-name basis, calling each other Jared and Mohammed in text messages and phone calls.

The exchanges continued even after the Oct. 2 killing of Jamal Khashoggi, the Saudi journalist who was ambushed and dismembered by Saudi agents, according to two former senior American officials and the two people briefed by the Saudis.

As the killing set off a firestorm around the world and American intelligence agencies concluded that it was ordered by Prince Mohammed, Mr. Kushner became the prince’s most important defender inside the White House, people familiar with its internal deliberations say.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/world/middleeast/saudi-mbs-jared-kushner.html





He is a vile, evil creature.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
18. And he is meeting with them right now. FUCK nepotism.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:21 PM
Feb 2019

Bibi is going down for his crimes (finally) so who will Kushner meet with to negotiate peace in the middle east?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
13. Now that this outrage is out there
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:04 PM
Feb 2019

are people going to forget the disaster of the NK summit failure or the disaster of the Cohen testimony?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
15. I wish I could forget, but no.
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:11 PM
Feb 2019

People won't forget; but where to take action 1st against a mountain of bullshit?

riversedge

(70,240 posts)
24. TRump LIED again. yes. he. did.....
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 07:52 PM
Feb 2019



.....The disclosure of the memos contradicts statements made by the president, who told The New York Times in January in an Oval Office interview that he had no role in his son-in-law receiving his clearance....
....

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
26. Are the lies recorded on the day they occur or on the day they're found out?
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:00 PM
Feb 2019

WaPo must have a whole division on their own floor just tracking them!

tonekat

(1,815 posts)
31. Why have rules about Security Clearances...
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 08:10 PM
Feb 2019

...if they're going to be handed out like Costco Memberships!!?? This criminal family has access to a lot of things they should not.

People who had to be screened in detail for their Security Clearances must be peed at seeing him just get it with no polygraphs, etc.

This is more of trump running our government like "Dirty Don's Hotel".

"Here 'y go kid, I pulled some strings. Does your wife want one?"

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
32. Jared Kushner is one of the last people on Earth that should be getting
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 09:02 PM
Feb 2019

a high level security clearance. Specially from drumpf.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
33. So Kelly and McGahm cover their asses
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 09:08 PM
Feb 2019

and screw the country giving a compromised criminal the keys to the safe.

Evolve Dammit

(16,736 posts)
35. The federal employees in charge of these clearances indicated that many (40?)
Thu Feb 28, 2019, 10:33 PM
Feb 2019

were questioned or rejected, including Kushners but ultimately overridden by a Trump appointee. Please affirm or refute my understanding of what happened. I also thought the whistleblower was a handicapped woman who was berated by said appointee and denied customary review protocols for the security clearances.

 

yerop

(89 posts)
37. So Kelly let Trump push him around and let Trump's lies stand
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 06:35 AM
Mar 2019

so much for the honest tough guy myth about Kelly

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,472 posts)
38. The Kushner family needs to borrow $800 million for its latest venture.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:41 AM
Mar 2019
Kushner Cos. Pays $1.1 Billion for Suburban Apartment Portfolio

David Fahrenthold Retweeted

Oh nothing, just Jared Kushner's family seeking $800 million in bank financing.



-- -- -- --

Hat tip, Joe.My.God (https://www.joemygod.com/2019/02/kushner-cos-buys-apartments-group-for-1-1-billion/) for pointing this tweet out:

1. Jared Kushner's family business is paying $1.1 billion for a portfolio of apartments
2. It plans to borrow money for about 70% of that payment

This sounds like a familiar story...


cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
42. So bring in Trump and Kelly to testify in congress...
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 02:52 PM
Mar 2019

it's a simple as that. Until Trump lies directly to the faces of the Repubes and they are left drooling in their own brain melt, they will never hold him accountable.

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
43. CLEARANCES ARE NOT EASY TO BE EARNED
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 07:43 PM
Mar 2019

I had heard the WH is a "Q" clearance area. I had a "Q" clearance for 34 years. The government spends $10,000 during the process (every 5 years) to ensure a clearance can be granted. Part of the process is to visit with people who live on your block. A "top secret" clearance ain't "crap" when the "Q" is the next step higher clearance. I think any administrative assistance could "escort" a person with a lower clearance. I have escorted people who only had "top secret." Sharing "Q" information would be against the law or entering a "Q" area un-escorted would be illegal. The GOP thinks not everyone requires the correct clearance because many of their clowns would not be granted a clearance.........

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