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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:19 PM Mar 2019

House Dems will vote on a resolution in response to Ilhan Omar's Israel comments

Source: Politico



The freshman Democrat is clashing with senior lawmakers over her remarks criticizing Israel.

By SARAH FERRIS and JOHN BRESNAHAN 03/04/2019 12:50 PM EST Updated 03/04/2019 02:11 PM EST

Update (2:11 p.m.):

House Democratic leaders will put a resolution on the floor Wednesday in response to controversial remarks about Israel from Rep. Ilhan Omar.

The resolution, which is still being finalized, comes after a backlash from Jewish lawmakers who accused Omar of anti-Semitism for referring to pro-Israel advocates’ “allegiance to a foreign country.”

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi and top Democrats are confronting a new controversy involving freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar, who has defied her colleagues’ calls to apologize for recent comments viewed as anti-Semitic.

Public scrutiny over the Minnesota Democrat intensified over the weekend as two of the House’s most senior Democrats condemned Omar’s remarks accusing pro-Israel advocates of “allegiance to a foreign country.” And the problem threatens to get worse for Democratic leaders, with Omar refusing other lawmakers' pleas to retract her statements.



Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/04/omar-israel-house-democrats-1201881

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House Dems will vote on a resolution in response to Ilhan Omar's Israel comments (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2019 OP
Where is the statement? I just read the linked story and the offending statement is not to be found. PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #1
If you follow the link to Politico, you'll find links in the story to a multitude of comments. DonViejo Mar 2019 #5
Yes.. I did follow those links.. some go as far back as 2012.. I do not see the current statement PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #8
No one is accusing you of not being able to read. Did you follow the links to Rep Omar's DonViejo Mar 2019 #10
A Google DU site search reveals from two days ago:... DonViejo Mar 2019 #13
here it is scipan Mar 2019 #32
If there is a resolution, it must be defeated rainin Mar 2019 #2
I agree TryLogic Mar 2019 #12
Just as the UN finds Israel guilty of War Crimes.Deserving of criticism I'd say. onit2day Mar 2019 #17
Speaker Pelosi wouldn't be bringing this to a vote if she thought Jose Garcia Mar 2019 #23
Dems buying the republic version of reality hurt us more than they know (or care). The fact that GrannyW Mar 2019 #3
Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2019 #11
Dunno, did they have a congressional lobbying organization like AIPAC onit2day Mar 2019 #18
When Trump's/GOP's Actions favor Russia we accuse them of alligiance to a foreign country. bitterross Mar 2019 #4
I agree TryLogic Mar 2019 #14
Thank you Speaker Pelosi. Anti-Semitism should always be challenged and condemned. tritsofme Mar 2019 #6
So should Israeli war crimes as the UN is currently doing onit2day Mar 2019 #19
Rep Omar is not the problem The Liberal Lion Mar 2019 #7
I have no opinion on Israel. I do believe though that we can not have a dialog... PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #9
I agree TryLogic Mar 2019 #15
The phrase dual loyalties is disturbing ripcord Mar 2019 #16
Maybe it does exist DeminPennswoods Mar 2019 #22
So since one person said something that applies to all Jews? ripcord Mar 2019 #25
Oh, for Christ's (he was Jewish, you know) sake, she did not say ALL JEWS had dual loyalties. GrannyW Mar 2019 #20
Criticism of the US relationship with Israel is not anti-semitic Politicub Mar 2019 #21
What groups have had so many pogoms aimed at them Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #24
The nation of Israel is not the same as Jewish people. bitterross Mar 2019 #28
The main difference between Israel and other countries as to "Right of Return". Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #31
This is bad both morally and strategically. Perrenial Voter Mar 2019 #26
Again it is not anti semtic to say lawmakers have some allegiance to a foreign country.. lancelyons Mar 2019 #27
I'm surprised she still has her Foreign Affairs committee assignment madville Mar 2019 #29
Hopefully we remember this next time someone goes on a screed against "globalists", ck4829 Mar 2019 #30
 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
1. Where is the statement? I just read the linked story and the offending statement is not to be found.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:25 PM
Mar 2019

How can we make judgement without the statement? That's the trouble with news. Always reference to the "statement" but never the "statement" or the "rebuttal" to the statement", or the "prequel" to the "statement" that caused it. Never the facts, only the spin. Where can we get the facts?

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
8. Yes.. I did follow those links.. some go as far back as 2012.. I do not see the current statement
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:39 PM
Mar 2019

I can read sir. I know how to follow links. I have not heard what the latest statement was and the context upon what it was uttered. I would think Politico could give a link to the actual statement. That would be good reporting to me.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
10. No one is accusing you of not being able to read. Did you follow the links to Rep Omar's
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:44 PM
Mar 2019

Twitter account? It's a long string of comments from her and others.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
2. If there is a resolution, it must be defeated
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:29 PM
Mar 2019

Democrats are elected by their constituents and should be speaking on their behalf. The notion that we must all think exactly alike is undemocratic.

She is right that there is "allegiance to Israel" from many of our lawmakers. Ironically, the resolution is evidence of that.

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
17. Just as the UN finds Israel guilty of War Crimes.Deserving of criticism I'd say.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:31 PM
Mar 2019

What they did in Gaza is horrific. UN investigated as well as every human rights organizations. Snipers intentionally targeting Children, elderly, disabled, journalist, medical personnel. Time to indict Israel for war crimes yet here we have hands slapped for criticizing Israel. Those representatives better wake up. Gaza says it all and the slaughter of unarmed innocent Palestinians are viewed by the civilized world and the UN as war crimes.

Jose Garcia

(2,598 posts)
23. Speaker Pelosi wouldn't be bringing this to a vote if she thought
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:10 PM
Mar 2019

there was a chance it wouldn't pass.

 

GrannyW

(17 posts)
3. Dems buying the republic version of reality hurt us more than they know (or care). The fact that
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:29 PM
Mar 2019

they act to follow up on right wing bullshit is really counter-productive.

The US will always suffer for its backing of repressive regimes.
Maybe not immediately, but eventually.

The toleration of Israeli (NOT Jewish) actions are especially negative because of the many positive things the Israelis (NOT Jews) do that are overshadowed by the extremist government's deplorable actions.

I am old and I forget stuff.
Please refresh my memory - were libs protesting American support for South American right wing military regimes accused of being anti-Hispanic?

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
18. Dunno, did they have a congressional lobbying organization like AIPAC
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:39 PM
Mar 2019

I do know our AG got pardons for all guilty fed employees supplying them weapons under Raegan.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
4. When Trump's/GOP's Actions favor Russia we accuse them of alligiance to a foreign country.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:31 PM
Mar 2019

Many lawmakers on both sides of the isle seem to take actions that favor AIPAC policies and the nation of Israel. Why is it not okay to make the same accusations about them?

tritsofme

(17,379 posts)
6. Thank you Speaker Pelosi. Anti-Semitism should always be challenged and condemned.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:36 PM
Mar 2019

Omar’s dog whistle is fooling no one.

I am hopeful that she will be defeated in the Democratic primary next year.

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
7. Rep Omar is not the problem
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:37 PM
Mar 2019

trump and the republican party is. Rep. Omar is doing nothing more than speaking the truth. Looks like AIPAC has more influence over the democratic party than perhaps was thought.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
9. I have no opinion on Israel. I do believe though that we can not have a dialog...
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:43 PM
Mar 2019

without someone screaming antisemitism. It's impossible. It doesn't matter how sincere you are.

ripcord

(5,408 posts)
16. The phrase dual loyalties is disturbing
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:53 PM
Mar 2019

It was used to justify the internment of Japanese Americans during WW2, it used against Catholic presidential candidate John F Kennedy and it has been used since Roman's times against Jews. Her point may have merit but her choice of terminology is ignorant.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
22. Maybe it does exist
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:33 PM
Mar 2019

Years ago a secular and very lefty Jewish friend surprisingly said, unprompted, they were Jewish first and American second. Wasn't quite sure exactly what that meant, but it took me aback.

 

GrannyW

(17 posts)
20. Oh, for Christ's (he was Jewish, you know) sake, she did not say ALL JEWS had dual loyalties.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 05:19 PM
Mar 2019

She said that politicians who take AIPAC money are not only representing America's interests, but Israel's as well.
That includes ALL politicians, regardless of their religious affiliation.

Just as those who take Exxon money represent that corporation's interests in addition to their constituents (sure, they do).

It seems that Arabs or Muslims are not allowed to criticize Israel.
There is anti-semitism in this situation, but it is not coming from Representative Omar.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
21. Criticism of the US relationship with Israel is not anti-semitic
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:22 PM
Mar 2019

Omar is being used as a punching bag and a proxy for America’s anti-Islam bias.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
24. What groups have had so many pogoms aimed at them
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 07:37 PM
Mar 2019

in so many countries where they had felt safe? Whether or not we want to move to Israel is not the point. What is the point is Israel is a place where we can go if threatened. Do not tell me we are safe in the U.S., we have been safe in many countries for many years until the pogroms started.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
28. The nation of Israel is not the same as Jewish people.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:28 PM
Mar 2019

The nation of Israel is made up of Jews, Arabs, Christians and others. It is not anti-Semitic to criticize the nation of Israel. Yes, the majority in Israel is Jewish. But the majority in the US is Christian. If it were anti-Semitic to criticize Israel, then it must be anti-Christian to criticize the US.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
31. The main difference between Israel and other countries as to "Right of Return".
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 09:02 AM
Mar 2019

International law says everyone has a right of return to the country where they have their citizenship. Israel's "Right of Return" is for all Jews everywhere except for violent felons, but also includes their family members and their spouses and children and their grandchildren even if they are not Jewish. Just because you criticize Israel or the US does not necessarily make it a religious criticism, but it would depend on the criticism.

 

Perrenial Voter

(173 posts)
26. This is bad both morally and strategically.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:07 PM
Mar 2019

She spoke the truth and, in any case, she has a right to speak her mind. No country or official has a right to be beyond criticism or to punish those who criticise them. At any rate, this is not something Democrats should do.

Beyond this, the Mueller investigation is almost certainly going to find corrupt deals between Trump and Netanyahu. It was early on leaked that there were multiple countries the investigation was looking at, including Israel and Saudi Arabia. And if Mueller doesn't reveal anything, the House Democrats will. But if they pass this resolution they are undermining their moral authority to do anything about it.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
27. Again it is not anti semtic to say lawmakers have some allegiance to a foreign country..
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 08:26 PM
Mar 2019

Just because the foreign country is Israel.

We are getting in dangerous territory where anything said that is anti Israel is being considered anti semitic.

That is such BUULCHIT.

People cant stand that this ridiculous stuff is happening.

Meanwhile Omar is seriously being insulted and there is NO DIScUSSION about that.

Is OK to hammer on Muslims but not ok to hammer on Israel. How hypocritical is this.

madville

(7,412 posts)
29. I'm surprised she still has her Foreign Affairs committee assignment
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 09:34 PM
Mar 2019

This is like three strikes in three weeks time on the same subject. Nancy isn't going to tolerate this any longer I bet.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
30. Hopefully we remember this next time someone goes on a screed against "globalists",
Tue Mar 5, 2019, 08:22 AM
Mar 2019

"Cultural Marxists", or "George Soros"

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