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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:37 PM Mar 2019

Judge denies fast-track case for woman seeking to return to the U.S. after defecting from ISIS

Source: Politico

A federal judge on Monday denied a request to fast track the case of a woman seeking to return to the United States after defecting from ISIS.

But the judge did not immediately rule on the U.S. citizenship of Hoda Muthana, whom President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called a foreign terrorist and inegible to return to the United states.

Muthana, who was born to a former Yemeni diplomat in the U.S., is currently held in a refugee camp held by Syrian rebels after fleeing from ISIS, which she joined at 19. Lawyers working on her behalf say she has expressed remorse and wants to come home.

But both Trump and Pompeo argue she is not a citizen because her father enjoyed diplomatic immunity when she was born, barring her from territorial birthright citizenship. Her family’s lawyers argue she was been granted a U.S. passport twice and though the U.S. government had not received notice that her father was no longer a diplomat at the time of her birth, he was fired by the Yemeni mission more than a month before Muthana was born.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/04/judge-us-woman-isis-1202295

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Judge denies fast-track case for woman seeking to return to the U.S. after defecting from ISIS (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2019 OP
What would we do to her if she came in? janterry Mar 2019 #1
Material support of terrorism most likely. nycbos Mar 2019 #3
That's what I was thinking. Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #2
Don't confuse things zipplewrath Mar 2019 #4
True, but I would think Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #5
I read another article where crim son Mar 2019 #9
I don't know, but... Hulk Mar 2019 #6
It's very serious to let someone in who joined ISIS. Honeycombe8 Mar 2019 #7
Why don't they bring her back and find out what information Merlot Mar 2019 #8
 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
1. What would we do to her if she came in?
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:44 PM
Mar 2019

I mean, would she be charged with something? Given the state of affairs, right now, I'd sure as heck want to go to many other countries (not that the list that will want her is long). But, still. I'd be scared to come back here.

We're not exactly in a forgiving mindset, these days.......

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
2. That's what I was thinking.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:48 PM
Mar 2019

Her options must be pretty bad, because I'm sure it would not go well for her here, unfortunately.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
4. Don't confuse things
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 03:55 PM
Mar 2019

Don't confuse high critical thinking skills with this person. Not much evidence to support such an assumption.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
9. I read another article where
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 06:02 PM
Mar 2019

she was quoted as understanding she may well go to jail if she comes back, and she's okay with that.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
6. I don't know, but...
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:22 PM
Mar 2019

...fraudulent information when applying for a visa, green card, citizenship, etc. can qualify for revoking said visa or citizenship.
If all the facts are correct in this post, her father never really qualified to have his children receive American citizenship.?.? Revoking that citizenship would possibly be in order. Having issued two previous passports would be insignificant. She’s in a real shit soup, however, returning to reside in the US would not be an easy future either, considering the Jabba-infection that is spreading in the US today.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. It's very serious to let someone in who joined ISIS.
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:23 PM
Mar 2019

Joining a terrorist group that has one of its main goals the killing of Americans is an affirmative statement that the person wants to kill innocent Americans and embraces that ideology. It's not like she got over there, saw what it was about, and wanted to come back right away. She's been there for years and presumably wholly embraced the ideology.

I've never heard of anyone who took the extreme step of leaving the U.S. and joining ISIS or another anti-American M.E. Islamic terrorist group, of having a change of heart and wanting to come back and be American again and forget all about their prior views that they had wholly embraced. They seem to become even more anti-American, once they get to Syria or Afghanistan or wherever their terrorist group is.

This article lists about 15 Americans who left the U.S. to join a terrorist group. None of them changed his/her mind or asked to come back. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-uncovered/americans-15-who-left-united-states-join-isis-n573611 It could happen, I guess. But the primary concern has to be the safety of Americans here.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
8. Why don't they bring her back and find out what information
Mon Mar 4, 2019, 04:27 PM
Mar 2019

she may have on the organization? If she has defected from and no longer has loyalty to it, she might have good information she would be willing to share.

She could use that infor in a plea deal.

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