I don't mind embarrassing republicans who vote against it or Donnie who would surely veto it if it got that far.

But I don't think it would actually hold up if the Supreme Court ever were to opine on it.

Good policy doesn't mean it's constitutional.

Could be worded such that pardoning a person involved in a case the President is involved it would become prima facie evidence of Obstruction of Justice and automatic impeachment or some such (not necessarily automatic conviction in the Senate).

The Constitution does provide numerous checks and balances, so I think a way can be found to make Schiff's legislation Constitutional.

Anyway, Schiff is very intelligent and astute. I expect he has thought through your issues.

He is indeed intelligent. But politicians sometimes propose laws knowing they won't be passed or knowing they won't stand up in court.

There's a perfectly reasonable political rationale for proposing this, even if it never becomes law.

Which I suspect is the likely outcome.

And I think Schiff knows this.

Article 2 Section 2 of the US Constitution gives the President nearly absolute leeway in granting pardons for Federal crimes, with one important exception: the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon#U.S._Constitution

Schiff is barking up the wrong tree here. Legislation about Pardons won't even pass the Senate, never mind the fact that it will fail to pass Constitutional muster in the courts (with good reason). Instead, Schiff and other Representatives need to bring Articles of Impeachment soon. Doing so only requires action in the House, and once they are filed, Trump cannot pardon anyone related to said Articles (which should be written sufficiently broadly).

-app

To pardon a convicted felon whose crime the pardoner was directly involved in, is to admit to being a criminal, as well.

and every decision that administration was made halted to be reconsidered.

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You read it correctly...the liberals think you are dirty enough to warrant close watch
over. Not only you, but your thieving buddies too...See that they don't leave the cOuntry ..

to every appropriation bill until McConnel allows a vote...

force a shutdown if necessary, make GOP defend trump pardoning his circle of crooks

And it reflects the strong feelings of a majority of his constituents, not to mention all the rest of us outside his district who share those feelings. In that regard, he represents the rest of us, too.