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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,034 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:11 PM Mar 2019

Florida lawmakers advance bill requiring high schools to offer Bible class

Source: The Hill

A bill in Florida that would require public high schools to have a class teaching the Bible advanced through its first subcommittee.

If the bill passes through the legislature, all public high schools in Florida would have to offer the class as an elective, not a requirement, according to the Tampa Bay Times.

While the bill advanced, members of the House PreK-12 Quality subcommittee voiced their concerns about the controversial piece of legislation, specifically questioning whether the bill would follow its section title, “An objective study of religion.”

“I don’t know how you can have religious neutrality if your course is focused on just one holy book,” state Rep. Anna Eskamani (D) said during the bill’s first hearing.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/433073-florida-bill-that-would-require-high-schools-to-offer-bible-class



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Florida lawmakers advance bill requiring high schools to offer Bible class (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 OP
are these the same fucking idiots who are considering a ban on plastic straw bans? niyad Mar 2019 #1
What about the Torah? Koran? aeromanKC Mar 2019 #2
It will end up like the 10 commandments statue a few years ago. Dustlawyer Mar 2019 #17
Colossal waste of the people's money BlueIdaho Mar 2019 #3
Stupid is as stupid does. sarcasmo Mar 2019 #4
What ever happened to teaching the Bible in churches? Requiring that one religion be taught over all dameatball Mar 2019 #5
Which bible? DBoon Mar 2019 #6
In another context I once asked a conservative "Which Bible?" Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #8
To be fair, one of umpteen billion translations, the New American Bible is a thing. DRoseDARs Mar 2019 #12
Great idea. Make it a philosophy class, with the first requirement be everyone must question . . . Journeyman Mar 2019 #7
I agree, but a course like that would require a lot of the teacher. LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #21
And do not forget the Zoroastrian scriptures, the Zendavesta. justhanginon Mar 2019 #9
Zoroastrianism predates Judaism, Christianity and Islam. SunSeeker Mar 2019 #18
I know they're looking to go... stillcool Mar 2019 #10
Unconstitutional showboating. Karadeniz Mar 2019 #11
Requiring? Is it open to all religions or just "Christianity", for what ever that has evolved into? Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #13
Which Bible are they going to teach??????? Cryptoad Mar 2019 #14
"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for me." keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #15
It won't survive a court challange n/t lordsummerisle Mar 2019 #16
If they taught the Kama Sutra in school, that would be interesting. Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #19
It occurs to me a "Bible Class" could teach students about all of the contradictions Nitram Mar 2019 #20
"All public high schools in Florida would have to offer the class........" Stuart G Mar 2019 #22
Not this crap again... paleotn Mar 2019 #23
The perfect irony would be kids learning the bible and realizing everything the okaawhatever Mar 2019 #24

niyad

(113,336 posts)
1. are these the same fucking idiots who are considering a ban on plastic straw bans?
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:16 PM
Mar 2019

wasn't florida ranked somewhere lower than 45th in educational standards some years ago? maybe that explains it.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
17. It will end up like the 10 commandments statue a few years ago.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 06:02 PM
Mar 2019

They were allowed to put it up but then the Satanist erected one as well.

Whatch heads explode when they have to offer electives on Satanic religion as well as the Torah and Koran.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
3. Colossal waste of the people's money
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:24 PM
Mar 2019

As these jackasses will no doubt try to defend this in the courts - plural.

On the bright side, nothing will make kids hate the Bible more than being forced to study it in school.

dameatball

(7,398 posts)
5. What ever happened to teaching the Bible in churches? Requiring that one religion be taught over all
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:27 PM
Mar 2019

others, even as an elective, seems to be a clear violation of the separation of church and state.

We can expect a lot of indignant outrage from Christians if this thing passes, then some Muslim student files suit seeking an elective Koran class.

From a practical standpoint, Florida has a lot of teachers leaving for other states already. Adding ridiculous courses such as these further dilutes the pool of teachers available. Besides, shouldn't the teachers be at the gun range? I'm so tired of these politicians promoting this crap.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
8. In another context I once asked a conservative "Which Bible?"
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:33 PM
Mar 2019

His answer: "The American Bible, of course."

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
12. To be fair, one of umpteen billion translations, the New American Bible is a thing.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:48 PM
Mar 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_American_Bible

Of course, almost certainly not what your friend was talking about but still.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
7. Great idea. Make it a philosophy class, with the first requirement be everyone must question . . .
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:32 PM
Mar 2019

everything they are taught, to get to the nub of the matter and not simply accept without reason whatever is presented to them. They could pair it with a second semester on the Bible as literature, so that inquisitive students can learn where and how such ancient tales have come down to us and what influences have been at play through the centuries.

I have no problems with academic classes that deal dispassionately with critical issues. And no issue with furthering everyone's knowledge and understanding of the forces that have formed our society. Why, without an understanding of the Reformation and the impact of Gutenberg's Bible, a full appreciation of the intellectual roots of the American Revolution is impossible.

LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
21. I agree, but a course like that would require a lot of the teacher.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:48 PM
Mar 2019

Most high school teachers would probably have a hard time covering the subject with the attention it would demand. It would make an interesting elective AP class. My only problem with this law is making it a required elective. A lot of school districts wouldn't have someone with the time and the ability to teach the class.

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
9. And do not forget the Zoroastrian scriptures, the Zendavesta.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:40 PM
Mar 2019

and I am sure there are many many, more.
Yeah, as a coincidence I had that one in a crossword puzzle this morning.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
18. Zoroastrianism predates Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 06:12 PM
Mar 2019

And appears to have deeply influenced all three. Unfortunately two of the nicest traits of Zoroastrianism, protecting the environment and not trying to convert others, was not copied by those three religions as a tenet.



As Freddie Mercury's father always told him, invoking the Zoroastrian mantra: "Good thoughts, good words, good deeds."

Alas, these Florida educators don't know jack shit about that, nor the 1st Amendment's separation of church and state.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
14. Which Bible are they going to teach???????
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:57 PM
Mar 2019

there are many different Bibles ,,,,,, maybe it will be the Jewish Orthodox Bible, heh?

keithbvadu2

(36,828 posts)
15. "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for me."
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 05:02 PM
Mar 2019

"If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for me."

Attributed to several people.

(Same with the Bible)

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=32;t=000448;p=1

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
19. If they taught the Kama Sutra in school, that would be interesting.
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 06:17 PM
Mar 2019

Some of the parents might want to join in. That is as long as they kept out the boring stuff and only taught the positions.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
20. It occurs to me a "Bible Class" could teach students about all of the contradictions
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 07:02 PM
Mar 2019

and unscientific notions in the Bible. Also what a bloodthirsty, sadistic deity Jehova was.

Stuart G

(38,434 posts)
22. "All public high schools in Florida would have to offer the class........"
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 08:19 PM
Mar 2019

This is against the 1st Amendment to the Constitution.. All public high schools should not have to offer this

....It will go into the court system, and public money will not be allowed to fund a course in bible studies in public education...even if it is an elective..Why?

A teacher must be hired to teach this, and funds must be allocated to fund the teacher and the text books..This is clearly illegal, and will not get past the various courts. Teaching, "The Bible" in public schools will be declared illegal by all courts that the issue is taken to. A clear waste of money. Spending any time at all advancing this idiotic law is a waste of time as well as money. I could go on, but what is the use? This will be declared illegal pretty quickly.

And I might add that the funds needed to defend this in court by the State of Florida will not be "cheap." So the whole thing is "totally idiotic." The people proposing this are "idiots" I don't think it will pass the legislature. If it passes, then the entire state will be known as idiots..

But, it will not pass..A few people in the legislature are that stupid..but not enough to pass this sh*t. At least this is my opinion.. We will see.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
24. The perfect irony would be kids learning the bible and realizing everything the
Thu Mar 7, 2019, 09:23 PM
Mar 2019

republicans and republican-aligned churches teach is wrong. They would all turn into neighbor-loving, hungry-feeding, feet washin', judge-not-in', peace loving Christians.

Lord, that would be perfect.

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