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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 12:53 PM Mar 2019

Trump issues warning to opponents: 'It would be very bad' if his military, police and biker supporte

Source: Toronto Star

Trump issues warning to opponents: 'It would be very bad' if his military, police and biker supporters got 'tough'
By Daniel Dale Washington Bureau Chief
Thu., March 14, 2019

WASHINGTON--U.S. President Donald Trump has issued what seems to be a warning of armed pushback against his political opponents, telling a right-wing website on Monday that "it would be very bad, very bad" if his supporters in the military, police and a motorcycle group were provoked into getting "tough."

Trump uttered the remark in an interview with Breitbart News, a right-wing website that supports him. It came, according to Breitbart, as Trump was arguing that "the left" plays politics in a "tougher" and more "vicious" manner than the pro-Trump right even though "the tough people" are on Trump's side. (1)

"I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump -- I have the tough people, but they don't play it tough -- until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad," Trump said. ... Trump did not specify who "they" were. Breitbart did not emphasize the quote, which it published in an article headlined "Exclusive -- President Donald Trump: Paul Ryan Blocked Subpoenas of Democrats."

The quote prompted criticism and alarm when the Star tweeted it. ... "This is how an authoritarian talks. Happening right in front of us," Brendan Nyhan, a University of Michigan public policy professor who co-founded an initiative monitoring the state of U.S. democracy, said on Twitter.

(1) https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/13/exclusive-president-donald-trump-paul-ryan-blocked-subpoenas-of-democrats/

Read more: https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2019/03/14/trump-issues-warning-to-opponents-it-would-be-very-bad-if-his-military-police-and-biker-supporters-got-tough.html



Hat tip, Joe.My.God:

Trump Warns Critics: It Would Be Bad For You If The Military And Police Were Provoked Into Getting "Tough"

https://www.joemygod.com/2019/03/trump-warns-critics-it-would-be-bad-for-you-if-the-military-and-police-were-provoked-into-getting-tough/

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I generally do not consider Trump's tweets and comments worthy of attention in LBN. I'll make an exception for this.

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Trump to Breitbart on how the left plays tough: "I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump -- I have the tough people, but they don't play it tough -- until they go to a certain point and then it would be very bad, very bad."




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Story: The president of the United States warns his opponents of the possibility of armed pushback, saying it would be "very bad" if his supporters in the military, police and a biker group were provoked into getting "tough":


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Trump issues warning to opponents: 'It would be very bad' if his military, police and biker supporte (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 OP
He's a thug. notdarkyet Mar 2019 #1
Wannabe thug. NT mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #3
weird to think Larrybanal Mar 2019 #98
There's a term in your post we don't use here flotsam Mar 2019 #126
Came to say this. mahina Mar 2019 #6
A deluded wanna be thug. onit2day Mar 2019 #53
*Pretend thug, not tough, very wimpy, soft.....coward. nt Bromwell Mar 2019 #82
People are not paying attention to what Cohen had to say if Trump loses in 2020 olegramps Mar 2019 #121
I guess that make drumph mindem Mar 2019 #127
There are more sane and rational people who also carry guns. I firmly believe they will Hestia Mar 2019 #162
+1000 Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #179
He's an idiot n/t Strelnikov_ Mar 2019 #135
He really is ck4829 Apr 2019 #164
Considering that he has zero supporters in these groups, he is talking to himself again...nt SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #2
"Zero supporters?" Don't kid yourself.er 11cents Mar 2019 #9
But how many of those supporters are ready to throw their life away for Orange Hitler? workinclasszero Mar 2019 #92
Not nearly as many as HE thinks. nt oldsoftie Mar 2019 #108
Right workinclasszero Mar 2019 #117
Indeed, they're the ones shooting up schools, churches, mosques, synagogues, etc. ck4829 Apr 2019 #165
2/3rds of the military voted for him & I would bet the farm that the same amount still supports him yaesu Mar 2019 #33
Don't believe it. Besides 'support' does not mean being criminals. onit2day Mar 2019 #58
Keep in mind that the radios on bases leftieNanner Mar 2019 #93
I agree. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #109
I grew up military and the first thing you learn is that you are not supposed demigoddess Mar 2019 #70
The military is also trained not to follow unlawful orders. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #107
Why do you suppose he funds the military every other second and praises the Doitnow Mar 2019 #87
Support was down to under 50% months ago and dropping. ThoughtCriminal Mar 2019 #95
Yep. Ligyron Mar 2019 #56
I hate to say it, but he is right about his supporters. redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #63
I think you are wrong about that. Hoyt Mar 2019 #80
He looks so odd, hanging onto his biker guy, puckering up his Big Mack hole. Judi Lynn Mar 2019 #137
Trying to look tough. Trump just looks like the ass he is! True Blue American Mar 2019 #151
Village People enid602 Mar 2019 #163
Not true. my son is the only Democrat in his entire USCG unit. OMGWTF Mar 2019 #96
Zero? inwiththenew Apr 2019 #189
There it is. Hair on fire time. Grasswire2 Mar 2019 #4
Except right now, with the national emergency, he has the power to make Kurt V. Mar 2019 #71
But we have an acting SecDef. Same authority. And still "under" trump. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #105
He is so confident that all of those men are bullies & thugs like him. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #5
So, he just made a threat pure and simple. Doreen Mar 2019 #7
+1 n/t area51 Mar 2019 #18
+1000 bluestarone Mar 2019 #25
Banned and the Secret Service would come a knockin' OMGWTF Mar 2019 #97
YEA that's the truth! bluestarone Mar 2019 #116
Yep ck4829 Apr 2019 #166
Now he's trying to be a mafioso... jmowreader Mar 2019 #8
He is the typical bully Perseus Mar 2019 #10
I knew enough vicious, ugly right-wingers when I was in the Army to make his blithering at least Aristus Mar 2019 #14
OMG..right out of Hitlers playbook INdemo Mar 2019 #11
Being a Secret Service Agent for this asshole must be tough Submariner Mar 2019 #12
It is a threat . . . Iliyah Mar 2019 #13
He'll use this threat in his upcoming hate rallies, betchca. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2019 #152
He is manufacturing his own brown shirts out of thin air DBoon Mar 2019 #15
Not true. They are his brown shirts. rockfordfile Mar 2019 #17
Not thin air: Putin biker guys in US, buying trump condos lostnfound Mar 2019 #21
Yep. Anon-C Mar 2019 #40
Fuck this right-wing thug Politicub Mar 2019 #16
He just threaten Americans. Wow rockfordfile Mar 2019 #19
"That's a Russian biker club to you, 'Mericans!" Russian biker, trump condos lostnfound Mar 2019 #20
Trump "code speaking" to anyone stupid enough to fight his battles for him. Marie Marie Mar 2019 #22
I've been saying all along that confrontation is inevitable with this Racketeer Ponietz Mar 2019 #23
He ran his campaign MyOwnPeace Mar 2019 #24
He's trying to pick a fight duforsure Mar 2019 #26
Good point !! TryLogic Mar 2019 #143
They should... but they won't ck4829 Apr 2019 #174
This is fucking scary. Initech Mar 2019 #27
I fear for our justice system even now, including Mueller. T's world is starting to crumble around JudyM Mar 2019 #64
Start fearing for this country yesterday ck4829 Apr 2019 #169
+++++++++++++++ 2naSalit Apr 2019 #184
Ach so, Herr Drumph ist vercalling oudt der braunschirtzen. marble falls Mar 2019 #28
With all the trash dementia boy has put on the service... Maxheader Mar 2019 #29
In a way, this is against the law. He cannot threaten people with our military, police, bikers. Stuart G Mar 2019 #30
He uses language so imprecisely that it can't be pinned down. maxsolomon Mar 2019 #81
I am sick to death of this gangster inciting violence UpInArms Mar 2019 #31
He seriously thinks he's being perceived as a bad ass awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #32
I think this "veiled threat" proves he is a ...."very stupid ass." Stuart G Mar 2019 #38
Good post. awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #61
Yup. Normalized now... looking at the news channels, they're more interested in the college JudyM Mar 2019 #68
These threats are a big story Blackjackdavey Mar 2019 #99
I wonder how many of the ranks of the military and the police really support him? sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #34
Just said that below, very very little. Don't know about bikers though. George II Mar 2019 #37
2/3rds of the military voted for him & I bet still support him yaesu Mar 2019 #41
Same here. Duppers Mar 2019 #122
He talks the talk but in the end the only thing he will fight for is a big, fat NBC reality show yaesu Mar 2019 #35
The thing is, he has very little support in the military or among police. George II Mar 2019 #36
+1 grantcart Mar 2019 #48
He is really getting desperate now PatSeg Mar 2019 #39
Yes, he is threatening his opponets..BUT.. HE IS DOING IT OPENLY FOR ALL TO SEE. Stuart G Mar 2019 #44
It is all so bizarre PatSeg Mar 2019 #85
Come on NYAG ScratchCat Mar 2019 #42
"Who will rid me of this meddlesome democracy?" ProfessorPlum Mar 2019 #43
+1. This is where we are at. ck4829 Apr 2019 #167
He often suggest that others will do violence for him, duforsure Mar 2019 #45
Yes, but this one is open, printed, available to all to see and read, and he will not take it back Stuart G Mar 2019 #62
What reasonably intelligent biker/tough guy wants to go to jail for Trump? jmbar2 Mar 2019 #46
Why do I not see this in the MSM? n/t Charlie G Mar 2019 #47
The Toronto Star is Canada's highest-circulation newspaper on overall weekly circulation. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2019 #51
Here's a story in the Washington Post neohippie Mar 2019 #91
Charlottesville 2.0? DallasNE Mar 2019 #49
+1 ck4829 Apr 2019 #171
" he's just not worth it" , House Speaker Nancy Pelosi . stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #50
Impeachment is too good and dignified for him ArizonaLib Mar 2019 #59
I wonder seeing this a bit later, treestar Apr 2019 #187
This story has not, hit NYT, or CNN, it is at Talking Points Memo.. Stuart G Mar 2019 #52
Gee I wonder why Hillary called half of his supporters a basket full of deplorables? mucifer Mar 2019 #54
45 breaks his oath to protect and defend the Constitution as he threatens the constitutional rights ancianita Mar 2019 #55
As for his christian followers, with all their pious theater of public prayer and preaching for him ancianita Mar 2019 #60
I believe he was chosen bmbmd Mar 2019 #112
Did he just say 'My Brownshirts' ? C_U_L8R Mar 2019 #57
When he says this to Breitbart, he's actively inciting violence AdamGG Mar 2019 #65
It is incitement, it really is ck4829 Apr 2019 #170
At 2:30 Eastern Time, this story is not national news. Stuart G Mar 2019 #66
Not really a military fan boy flotsam Mar 2019 #67
Trump's stochastic terrorism. SunSeeker Mar 2019 #69
+1 ck4829 Apr 2019 #175
Let us fervently hope that he DOESN'T have the support of the federal police or the PatrickforO Mar 2019 #72
That's clear grounds for impeachment right there. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #73
Is he still not worth impeachment, even after this? SammyWinstonJack Mar 2019 #153
I dunno - I guess it depends on whether the country is worth saving. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #159
Brave words from "Bone Spurs Trump" left-of-center2012 Mar 2019 #74
He must have watched that documentary where the yuiyoshida Mar 2019 #75
And we all know how well that worked out. catbyte Mar 2019 #84
Except he didn't give a crap how that yuiyoshida Mar 2019 #86
no - this is straight out of his sugar daddy Putins handbook - n/t Locrian Mar 2019 #149
Is this a GOP ploy to have tRump resign or 25A out so we get Pence sworn in? ffr Mar 2019 #76
My thought also. Pushing the envelope? eom sprinkleeninow Mar 2019 #94
This is absolutely an IMPEACHABLE offense, and our Dems should be getting in front of Microphones mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #77
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #145
He wants assassinations. C Moon Mar 2019 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author ArizonaLib Mar 2019 #83
I tried to send it to CNN, but failed. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #79
Isn't his threat of violence impeachable? Nancy? Bueller? Blues Heron Mar 2019 #88
Those who think he won't try to cancel the 2020 election should think again Faygo Kid Mar 2019 #89
Even this SCOTUS wouldnt let him cancel the election. And he would be removed if he didnt leave. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #111
Thank you..for your sensible reply! Agree completely. It may not be smooth, but go he will!! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #180
Where I live that constitutes a terroristic threat, a class A misdemeanor pecosbob Mar 2019 #90
Actually, this is scary. zentrum Mar 2019 #100
that's a very nice country you've got there, shame if something were to happen to it... 0rganism Mar 2019 #101
he's laying the ground work for when he loses in 2020.... Javaman Mar 2019 #102
YEP also when he is sent to prison along with his family bluestarone Mar 2019 #119
True ck4829 Apr 2019 #168
Um...this is military dictatorship material. How can this just slide by? nolabear Mar 2019 #103
Not surprised in the slightest ZeroSomeBrains Mar 2019 #104
It would be kind of cute if the Senate would invite him over tomorrow for a visit Scalded Nun Mar 2019 #106
This is why he needs to be impeached meadowlander Mar 2019 #110
He won't have all of the military support out there Victor_c3 Mar 2019 #113
Thank you for your service and your knowledgeable reply!! Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #181
The Thug-in-Chief issues another threat. democrank Mar 2019 #114
Novel concept, groveling for impeachment and its distractions Deb Mar 2019 #115
The whiny little bitch IH8TU Mar 2019 #118
Yes. CNN now reporting. ffr Mar 2019 #120
Trump would love if Dems had become violent so he could claim being "law and order" Pres. wishstar Mar 2019 #123
Laughable bully. His supporters are all headed to jail. truthisfreedom Mar 2019 #124
I feel that it is up to Pence. Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #125
Mr. pResident you may find their support is thin as piss on a rock. Nixon talk back at you asshole. IADEMO2004 Mar 2019 #128
So, he's threatening the People sakabatou Mar 2019 #129
Regardless of whether military, police and bikers Golden Raisin Mar 2019 #130
Tomorrow at WH presser: "It was just a joke." honest.abe Mar 2019 #131
Totally channeling Putin! lanlady Mar 2019 #132
Fascist little fingered fucker! He has no support in the military. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #133
Classic Trump news chum... meadowlander Mar 2019 #134
Whatever little bit of sanity Trump may Progressive dog Mar 2019 #136
"His" military? dflprincess Mar 2019 #138
It's time for Mueller to quit goofing around on charges that are tough to prove. This is Hoyt Mar 2019 #139
Trump was obviously promoting violence during his campaign. TryLogic Mar 2019 #140
Ooooooh, so scary -- NOW GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU POS! Blue Owl Mar 2019 #141
Threatening us with his Trump bikers? luvallpeeps Mar 2019 #142
You Big Fucking Wuss, trump.. Go Cha Mar 2019 #144
because it's way pass time now, Mr. Mueller. Lock him up. Mar 2019 #146
He's just voicing out what Putin taught him, kyburbonkid Mar 2019 #147
Yep ck4829 Apr 2019 #173
think it's bad now? Locrian Mar 2019 #148
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #150
He's advocating violence and intimidation against civilians to advance a political agenda IronLionZion Mar 2019 #154
He said this on Monday, and on the following Saturday a house of worship was attacked. Cracklin Charlie Apr 2019 #176
That's a threat Miguel Smith Mar 2019 #155
My girlfriend and I do a lot of business at biker rallies. She especially has a lot of great old brewens Mar 2019 #156
My daughter works as banker during AZ bike week and meets them all!! She says 95+% are Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #182
I don't believe that the gang Dykes on Bikes gives a crap for him. Cold War Spook Mar 2019 #157
I'm old enough to remember Leftbros saying Donnie was no worse than Hillary Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #158
He speaks like the mob SpankMe Mar 2019 #160
"HIS military"?? red dog 1 Mar 2019 #161
It's those people shooting up places and running cars into people who will be his military though ck4829 Apr 2019 #172
Cadet Bonespurs thinks he owns the military Skittles Apr 2019 #185
I hope he remembers what happened to Mussolini. roamer65 Apr 2019 #177
He very much admires Benito..wonder if he knows how that ended? Probably not Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #183
Asshole. orangecrush Apr 2019 #178
Lol. Little tiny hands says what? yardwork Apr 2019 #186
hahaha...sheeeeeeeeeeit cntrfthrs Apr 2019 #188
 

Larrybanal

(227 posts)
98. weird to think
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:35 PM
Mar 2019

that all the tough guys support this big fat pussy snowflake. I think once again he has deluded himself

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
121. People are not paying attention to what Cohen had to say if Trump loses in 2020
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:15 PM
Mar 2019

Cohen testified that he feared that Trump could call for a revolution of his supporters if he fails to win the election. I have no doubt that he may very well go to that extreme. Remember what he said when asked if he would concede if Hilary won. He said that you will have to wait and see. This is the key to our system in which the loser gracious concedes unlike the other governments in which it results end up in armed rebellion. If it comes that our nation will be in great peril. There are thousands of his supporters who are armed to the teeth and just need and excuse to start a internal war. Just today he said that he has a lot of tough supporters, military, police and bikers who are his supporters and will not hesitate to defend him.


 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
162. There are more sane and rational people who also carry guns. I firmly believe they will
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:31 PM
Mar 2019

stand up to his craven followers. Something tells me that they won't have the red hats on.

11cents

(1,777 posts)
9. "Zero supporters?" Don't kid yourself.er
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:06 PM
Mar 2019

He does have supporters in the police. And doubtless some in the military as well, albeit hopefully not much in the officer corps. His blanket statement that he "has the support" of the police and military isn't true, but "zero supporters" isn't either.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
92. But how many of those supporters are ready to throw their life away for Orange Hitler?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:21 PM
Mar 2019

Are they ready to die for MF45? Are they ready to murder for Dump?

Spend the rest of their life in prison for tRump?

Not many redhats willing to go that far.

There are a few though...

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
117. Right
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:04 PM
Mar 2019

I'm sure Duh Furor thinks the whole US military and every cop in America ready to rise up in violence for him.

When in reality its the brain addled 70 YOs plus that have their TV tuned permanently to Fox noise and couldn't get out of their easy chair and run to the bathroom if their life depended on it much less lead an armed overthrow of democracy!

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
33. 2/3rds of the military voted for him & I would bet the farm that the same amount still supports him
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:43 PM
Mar 2019
 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
58. Don't believe it. Besides 'support' does not mean being criminals.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:15 PM
Mar 2019

We are still a nation of laws no matter how much Trump tries to thwart them.

leftieNanner

(15,124 posts)
93. Keep in mind that the radios on bases
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:21 PM
Mar 2019

are tuned in to Rush Limbaugh every day. Our friends (who are very progressive) have a son who went into the Marines and came out a right wing ideologue.

demigoddess

(6,641 posts)
70. I grew up military and the first thing you learn is that you are not supposed
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:42 PM
Mar 2019

to express political opinions in any way. Even the kids of military are not allowed to. One guy in my dad's group got called in and officially chewed out because his wife wrote to the President on a military related subject. When some kids did some painting of words on base once all the men were told to remind their wives and kids that this was not allowed as we were not to have political opinions in public. If the Generals say or do anything they are breaking the rules.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
87. Why do you suppose he funds the military every other second and praises the
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:15 PM
Mar 2019

few responders to harsh events (as opposed to consoling the victims of tragedies). Dictators always curry favor with authorities and NOT the oppressed.

Ligyron

(7,633 posts)
56. Yep.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:14 PM
Mar 2019

At this point those remaining are now officially known as: Suckers for Trump. May as well put a sign on their ass saying "kick me".

The few RW type acquaintances I know on Facebook and elsewhere have been dead silent concerning Trump lately and actually the hero worship has been fading for quite some time now.

Instead, most political comments, if any, are about scary socialists and AOC or Warren.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
63. I hate to say it, but he is right about his supporters.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:26 PM
Mar 2019

He has tons of support with the police, the military and biker gangs. We see them all the time where we live.

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
137. He looks so odd, hanging onto his biker guy, puckering up his Big Mack hole.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:46 PM
Mar 2019

He can't imagine how cowardly he looks in that photo! Good grief.

OMGWTF

(3,959 posts)
96. Not true. my son is the only Democrat in his entire USCG unit.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:33 PM
Mar 2019

And they all blame the Democrats for them not getting paid for 35 days. SMH

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
71. Except right now, with the national emergency, he has the power to make
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:44 PM
Mar 2019

good on this. bonus: we have no secretary of defense.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
105. But we have an acting SecDef. Same authority. And still "under" trump.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:43 PM
Mar 2019

Not that it would matter. Trumps a blathering fool.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
5. He is so confident that all of those men are bullies & thugs like him.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:02 PM
Mar 2019

Everything is black & white for him. Like how he resents helping blue states after a natural disaster, in spite of the fact that every state has tons of republicans, too.

bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
25. +1000
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:36 PM
Mar 2019

How does this fucker get away with this shit?? Hell we said that here and we would be BANNED!!

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
8. Now he's trying to be a mafioso...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:05 PM
Mar 2019

I figure by the time the entire case against Trump is laid out, those groups he claims support him will be against him.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
10. He is the typical bully
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:07 PM
Mar 2019

And when things get tough he will coward in a corner and cry...

I would like to know who, in the military, would go out with their guns and hit against his "opponents"...If that is true then they need to be outed and they need to resign/discharged from the military, that would be breaking their oath..“will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic”, and the orange buffoon is definitely a domestic threat...he wants to have a militia the same way Chavez and Maduro have in Venezuela (Colectivos), who have killed a lot of innocent people "defending" the "Robolution" (Kleptocracy - 'Robo' ---> to rob).

Aristus

(66,388 posts)
14. I knew enough vicious, ugly right-wingers when I was in the Army to make his blithering at least
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:10 PM
Mar 2019

a little plausible.

I knew guys who would jump at the chance to murder minorities, gays, strong independent women, etc. They were a little unhinged.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
12. Being a Secret Service Agent for this asshole must be tough
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:08 PM
Mar 2019

because there is no way in hell I would jump in to take a bullet to protect this guy.

Imagine going from the Obama detail to The Donald's detail. Bummer.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. It is a threat . . .
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:09 PM
Mar 2019

And he will tweet and say more concerning harming his opposition. RWers are talking about another civil war. These people are seriously endangering the USA.

DBoon

(22,367 posts)
15. He is manufacturing his own brown shirts out of thin air
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:11 PM
Mar 2019

His solution to being defeated by democratic constitutional processes is to threaten violence against his opponents.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
22. Trump "code speaking" to anyone stupid enough to fight his battles for him.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:23 PM
Mar 2019

A bully and a coward. Oh and also a LOSER. sad.

Ponietz

(2,980 posts)
23. I've been saying all along that confrontation is inevitable with this Racketeer
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:24 PM
Mar 2019

It would really help if law enforcement threw down the gauntlet toward the head of organized crime in the U.S. by arresting, at least, his son-in-law.

MyOwnPeace

(16,928 posts)
24. He ran his campaign
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:34 PM
Mar 2019

like a 7th grader running for class president - and now he's sounding like the 7th grade bully!

Send him to the Principal's office ("Excuse me, Mr. Mueller, I've been sent to see you...........&quot and throw his a$$ out of school!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
26. He's trying to pick a fight
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:37 PM
Mar 2019

Then use it to his advantage if he can. Martial law , so he can bypass Congress with it? Twitter should ban him.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
174. They should... but they won't
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:11 AM
Apr 2019

Twitter: Should I pick the right choice, or the choice that gets me publicity? Hmmm....

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
64. I fear for our justice system even now, including Mueller. T's world is starting to crumble around
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:32 PM
Mar 2019

him and he feels powerful enough, so when will he feel cornered enough?

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
28. Ach so, Herr Drumph ist vercalling oudt der braunschirtzen.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:37 PM
Mar 2019

I don't think the military is as much in his pocket as he thinks.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
29. With all the trash dementia boy has put on the service...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:38 PM
Mar 2019

Hopefully the generals have more authority than stupid...

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
30. In a way, this is against the law. He cannot threaten people with our military, police, bikers.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:40 PM
Mar 2019

Yes, it is a real threat... "saying it would be "very bad" if his supporters in the military, police and a biker group were provoked into getting "tough"

This is against the U.S.Constitution (I believe)

How does Trump define, "provoke" and how will that happen? Is Trump going to provoke them to act?

Lawyers that are here in DU.. .Is this a threat?
How would a reasonable judge interpret this? What would a constitutional historian say? But one thing is very good.....

And that is this: ..It is out there for all to see. Everyone can read and see this and comment on this. Everyone..and the country will decide if he broke the law.. (because he just did for everyone to see.)

Of course, he doesn't know it, and is too stupid to see the significance. But the lawyers know, and so do the courts know. ......

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
81. He uses language so imprecisely that it can't be pinned down.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:03 PM
Mar 2019

Did he mean to threaten Dems with violence? Fuck yes he did.

Did he explicitly, proveable-in-a-court-of-law threaten the left? Nope.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)
31. I am sick to death of this gangster inciting violence
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:41 PM
Mar 2019

He needs to be thrown under the mental ward in a high security prison.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
38. I think this "veiled threat" proves he is a ...."very stupid ass."
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:48 PM
Mar 2019

Far more stupider than anyone thought. He has taken that step that could do it. No President threatens the opposition with force in this manner. He could apologize for saying this, but he won't..This one he will not get away with. This one could unify much of his opposition against him. Yes, I do believe some Republicans will stand against threats like this. (some)


It could be a long ACT IV...the last act. Or it could be very short.
Talking like this, is indeed an impeachable offense. Trump is much too stupid to know it, but many others do know it.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
61. Good post.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:20 PM
Mar 2019

This will get "normalized" by the goopers and the media. "Well, you know how he is, he says stuff he doesn't mean"..."they're just words, he's not serious when he makes comments that "may offend" others"...etc etc.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
68. Yup. Normalized now... looking at the news channels, they're more interested in the college
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:42 PM
Mar 2019

admissions story.

Blackjackdavey

(178 posts)
99. These threats are a big story
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:35 PM
Mar 2019

But believe it or not, the admissions story is huge. It would be hard to underestimate how many middle class Americans it affects. My son is a high level college bound athlete. I get emails from recruiting outfits who will help raise his profile for a fee every. single. day. To include from the IMG academy who is caught up in this. I'm guessing every family with any kid in any club sport in the country is receiving the same emails. The savvy among us can see it is plainly a scam, this sheds a little more light. My kid is lucky, he is genuinely being recruited but there are thousands, probably millions, of kids who wish they were, with parents willing to do "whatever it takes."

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
34. I wonder how many of the ranks of the military and the police really support him?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:46 PM
Mar 2019

Do you think.it's above 50%?

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
41. 2/3rds of the military voted for him & I bet still support him
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:49 PM
Mar 2019

I have witnessed this first hand, I have seen progressives join & come out racist, tRump loving nuts, some scary stuff.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
35. He talks the talk but in the end the only thing he will fight for is a big, fat NBC reality show
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:46 PM
Mar 2019

contract when he gets the boot.

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
39. He is really getting desperate now
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:49 PM
Mar 2019

This is absolutely insane and terrifying. If he's threatening his opponents in the U.S. with armed violence, just imagine what he could do to foreign opponents.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
44. Yes, he is threatening his opponets..BUT.. HE IS DOING IT OPENLY FOR ALL TO SEE.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:55 PM
Mar 2019

1. No cover ups..
2. No arguments as to what he said. (It is there for everyone to read and see)
3. No easy way out of what he said.
4. It is clearly against the law to threaten people
5. Some, yes some, republicans will stand up against this threat.
6. Since the sentence is clear and easy to understand, everyone will know and understand what he has said.
7. It is very hard to defend statements like this.

And...in my opinion this is it. The very last straw for all to see.. He has just struck out in the last of the 9th and the other side...(that is us) has won the ball game. He doesn't know it yet, but the lawyers and congress people will take over and show him the door, or carry him out of the theater... I think we have moved to the last act with this very public, and very stupid statement..

PatSeg

(47,501 posts)
85. It is all so bizarre
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:08 PM
Mar 2019

Ever since he had that epiphany during the campaign, that he could do anything, even shoot someone on Fifth Ave., he really thinks he can do or say anything without repercussions. He repeatedly crosses lines and either doesn't realize or doesn't think it matters.

We keep seeing "last straws", I wonder if this is really the one. What does this man have to do to get republicans in congress to act decisively and quickly? To quote a republican, "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud", only WE really mean it! The man is a clear and present danger and no one has any control over him except Vladimir Putin.

Well, at least he never wore a tan suit!

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
42. Come on NYAG
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:53 PM
Mar 2019

Just release the indictments, have him arrested, force the GOP to act like adults and lets move on with Pence as POTUS. Is it not obvious at this point that if he is allowed to run again, he will at some point be out right inciting violence?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
45. He often suggest that others will do violence for him,
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 01:57 PM
Mar 2019

Knowing that some actually will. Then he claims he had nothing to do with it, if it happens. Shameful so many believe this monster in this country. Inciting violence between people in his own country is acceptable?

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
62. Yes, but this one is open, printed, available to all to see and read, and he will not take it back
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:24 PM
Mar 2019

He is far too stupid to be a member of the "Stupid Club" Trump needs to start his own club called, "The Stupidest People in the World Club"

jmbar2

(4,890 posts)
46. What reasonably intelligent biker/tough guy wants to go to jail for Trump?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:01 PM
Mar 2019

He thinks he's a mob boss. Real mobsters take care of the families of those who do jail time for the higher-ups. Trump won't be able to help anyone who takes a hit for him.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
51. The Toronto Star is Canada's highest-circulation newspaper on overall weekly circulation.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:05 PM
Mar 2019
Toronto Star

Website: thestar.com

The Toronto Star is a Canadian broadsheet daily newspaper. Based on 2015 statistics, it is Canada's highest-circulation newspaper on overall weekly circulation; although it is a close second to The Globe and Mail in daily circulation on weekdays, it overtakes the Globe in weekly circulation because the Globe does not publish a Sunday edition. The Toronto Star is owned by Toronto Star Newspapers Limited, a subsidiary of Torstar Corporation and part of Torstar's Daily News Brands division.

Also, most legitimate news sources know, wisely, to dismiss what appears on Breitbart as worthless crap, and not news.

Also, it's in the Washington Post now too:

Hell yes he just made a serious threat to the country.

The Fix Analysis
Trump again nods toward violence by his supporters — and maybe something bigger

By Aaron Blake
March 14 at 1:21 PM

No matter what the White House says, President Trump has repeatedly and not-subtly suggested his supporters could be violent — sometimes in an approving manner. And there’s a common thread running through much of it: Again and again, Trump has suggested they could rise up if they feel either they or Trump have been wronged by the political process.

There are several examples. The most well-worn was when Trump suggested during the 2016 campaign that “Second Amendment people” could stop a President Hillary Clinton from installing liberal judges. Trump played it off as a coincidence unrelated to violence that he flagged gun-rights supporters as the last line of defense against a political outcome he opposed.

Now, Trump is at it again. And this time, his statement has overtones of something bigger. ... In an interview with Trump-friendly Breitbart News this week, Trump talked about how “tough” the left was getting, relative to his supporters. His quote meanders a little bit, but stick with it and focus on the text in bold:

It’s so terrible what’s happening. You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you, I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher.

As The Washington Post’s David Nakamura pointed out, this is actually quite similar to something Trump said at a September campaign rally for now-Sen. Josh Hawley (R) in Missouri:

They’re so lucky that we’re peaceful. Law enforcement, military, construction workers, Bikers for Trump -- how about Bikers for Trump? They travel all over the country. They got Trump all over the place, and they’re great. They’ve been great. But these are tough people. These are great people. But they’re peaceful people, and Antifa and all -- they’d better hope they stay that way. I hope they stay that way. I hope they stay that way.

....

Aaron Blake is senior political reporter, writing for The Fix. A Minnesota native, he has also written about politics for the Minneapolis Star Tribune and the Hill newspaper. Follow https://twitter.com/aaronblake

treestar

(82,383 posts)
187. I wonder seeing this a bit later,
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:07 PM
Apr 2019

if it is "conduct unbecoming." He sounds like a mafioso. He would claim it was a "joke." But saying it shows he does not respect the office he is in and its constitutional limits.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
52. This story has not, hit NYT, or CNN, it is at Talking Points Memo..
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:11 PM
Mar 2019

Talking Points Memo link:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-again-hints-at-his-tough-supporters-potential-for-violence

Also, it is not at the Washington Post.

Could Trump's allies have killed this story, or are other sources waiting for additional verification of these comments?

ancianita

(36,081 posts)
55. 45 breaks his oath to protect and defend the Constitution as he threatens the constitutional rights
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:12 PM
Mar 2019

of citizens to be "safe in their persons" and every other constitutional amendment protection.

It's not a bully's threat when it comes from the nation's president.

This is a high crime. In full public view.

ancianita

(36,081 posts)
60. As for his christian followers, with all their pious theater of public prayer and preaching for him
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:18 PM
Mar 2019

bmbmd

(3,088 posts)
112. I believe he was chosen
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:52 PM
Mar 2019

To be president to finally and fully discredit the current Republican Party and to finish off the evangelical movement. The blatant hypocrisy and and immorality is an abomination.

AdamGG

(1,292 posts)
65. When he says this to Breitbart, he's actively inciting violence
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:34 PM
Mar 2019

It's not a threat, it's incitement. The alt-right thugs are their target audience.

Stuart G

(38,436 posts)
66. At 2:30 Eastern Time, this story is not national news.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:35 PM
Mar 2019

...?? Why not? I don't know. This looked very important and significant to me. "The President threatens his opponents" I think is an important story to all of us.

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
67. Not really a military fan boy
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:37 PM
Mar 2019

But if I remember correctly the oath I took I swore to obey legal orders from the chain of command and to protect and defend the constitution. A bunch of guys I took it with really meant that with all their hearts. And those are the ones who would foil any illegal suppression of American citizens.

PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
72. Let us fervently hope that he DOESN'T have the support of the federal police or the
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:47 PM
Mar 2019

military if the crunch comes.

Let us pray these people remember their oaths are not to Trump but to this nation.

Armed Forces
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

National Guard
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.

Federal Agents
I [name] do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

The clauses that should bind the military and national guard are, '...according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice,' and '...according to law and regulations.'

So, if it comes out that Trump has broken the law, and he is impeached, tried and removed from office, then he's no longer the president. Or, if he loses in 2020, and refuses to leave office, then he is also no longer the president. It is at that point that our armed forces, National Guard, and federal law enforcement MUST remember and uphold their oaths.

I guess the real question here is:

Will our institutions hold?

We'd better hope they do. Fervently.

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
75. He must have watched that documentary where the
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:51 PM
Mar 2019

Rolling Stones hired the Hell''s angels to protect them on stage at Altamont ... and asked, "How can I hire these guys???"

ffr

(22,670 posts)
76. Is this a GOP ploy to have tRump resign or 25A out so we get Pence sworn in?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:52 PM
Mar 2019

I'm very suspicious with all signs pointing to a resounding 2020 tRump defeat.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
77. This is absolutely an IMPEACHABLE offense, and our Dems should be getting in front of Microphones
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 02:57 PM
Mar 2019

ANYWHERE THEY CAN and DEMAND to be heard, and should proceed to read IQ45 the freaking Riot Act.

Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #77)

Response to C Moon (Reply #78)

PatrickforO

(14,577 posts)
79. I tried to send it to CNN, but failed.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:02 PM
Mar 2019

The big corporate owned media really doesn't want to hear from little peons like me, I guess.

Blues Heron

(5,938 posts)
88. Isn't his threat of violence impeachable? Nancy? Bueller?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:15 PM
Mar 2019

You just going to sit there and play 8 dimensional air chess?

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
89. Those who think he won't try to cancel the 2020 election should think again
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:18 PM
Mar 2019

Many here scoff at the idea. If he doesn't cancel it, he will try to rig it; if he loses, he won't step down gracefully.

We are in deep shit.

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
111. Even this SCOTUS wouldnt let him cancel the election. And he would be removed if he didnt leave.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:50 PM
Mar 2019

The newly elected president would be sworn in regardless of where trump would be squatting. And if he was that foolish, he would be forcibly removed.
He's a very stupid egotistical man. But i dont think he could take that hit to his ego so he would leave office blaming everyone but himself for the loss. Just like every OTHER time he loses.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
100. Actually, this is scary.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:38 PM
Mar 2019

He is calling them to come and get us.
Unbelievable that such threats are not illegal.


0rganism

(23,957 posts)
101. that's a very nice country you've got there, shame if something were to happen to it...
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:38 PM
Mar 2019

lowlife thug president

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
102. he's laying the ground work for when he loses in 2020....
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:39 PM
Mar 2019

he will have to be removed from the WH via a swat team but not before issuing marching orders to his mouth breathing flowers to "not believe the fake news that he lost!"

it will happen.

bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
119. YEP also when he is sent to prison along with his family
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:09 PM
Mar 2019

He wants a major revolt in this country! He has to know if he loses in 2020, he's headed to prison!

nolabear

(41,986 posts)
103. Um...this is military dictatorship material. How can this just slide by?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:42 PM
Mar 2019

If the opposition, the press and we, on social media as we can, let's kind of thing be just another "Oh, Donald!" moment I think we are complicit at the very least in letting the US normalize a dictatorial regime.

ZeroSomeBrains

(638 posts)
104. Not surprised in the slightest
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:43 PM
Mar 2019

I would like to thnk the military and law enforcement wouldn't follow such an illegal and facistic order. I have my doubts however.

meadowlander

(4,397 posts)
110. This is why he needs to be impeached
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:46 PM
Mar 2019

When Muellers investigation is done regardless of whether the Senate votes to remove him from office.

Otherwise, what does impeachment actually mean and what do we as a party stand for?

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
113. He won't have all of the military support out there
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:56 PM
Mar 2019

When I joined the Army, I took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution and not to any single person. Even though I’m no longer in the Army or even have my commission anymore, I still adhere to my oath. I take that oath very seriously, and I imagine I’m not the only one.

democrank

(11,096 posts)
114. The Thug-in-Chief issues another threat.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 03:57 PM
Mar 2019

Don’t push him or things could get....you know....”very bad”

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
123. Trump would love if Dems had become violent so he could claim being "law and order" Pres.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 04:37 PM
Mar 2019

Instead almost all of incidents of mass violent attacks or plotted attacks since he took office have been committed or planned by right wingers and Trumpers and gun nuts, not Dems and liberals. Rightwingers tried to infiltrate and paint anti-Trumpers as extremist "antifa" but haven't succeeded in the face of the publicity over the rightwing attacks and arrests.

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
125. I feel that it is up to Pence.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 05:27 PM
Mar 2019

He is so right wing that if he went to the cabinet there would be a better chance of getting rid of Trump. If Pence wants to be president he has a better shot of getting elected in 2020 than if Trump stays in power and brings the whole country down. Any Republican with a brain has to know that Trump is killing the party.

Golden Raisin

(4,609 posts)
130. Regardless of whether military, police and bikers
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:00 PM
Mar 2019

actually would or would not entertain violence on behalf of Trump, we are witnessing a sitting President of the United States openly talking about what amounts to the historical function of blackshirts and brownshirts (Mussolini and Hitler respectively). Stunning and something I did not think I would live to ever see/hear in my lifetime.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
131. Tomorrow at WH presser: "It was just a joke."
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:10 PM
Mar 2019

But the damage has been done just by saying it.

This guy has all the hallmarks of a dictator in the making and needs to be impeached or arrested or force out of office before its too late.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
132. Totally channeling Putin!
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 06:53 PM
Mar 2019

Putin has an infamous bikers' club, Night Wolves, that supports him. They like to ride around intimidating and roughing up protesters.

What next? Is Trump going to take up martial arts like Putin?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
139. It's time for Mueller to quit goofing around on charges that are tough to prove. This is
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:13 PM
Mar 2019

This is a threat to the people of America. Charges should be filed immediately.

luvallpeeps

(935 posts)
142. Threatening us with his Trump bikers?
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:32 PM
Mar 2019

We'll be ready for them. I think we can gather up some of them Red Hat ladies. I know a few of them. We got this.

Lock him up.

(6,933 posts)
146. because it's way pass time now, Mr. Mueller.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:31 AM
Mar 2019

And tell Burr his mob boss threatened tax payers who have different opinions than his to get murdered by his crazy Red Hats!

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
148. think it's bad now?
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 07:54 AM
Mar 2019

He's going to get worse as the vise tightens.
He's going to do **anything*** to stay out of prison.

If he get's impeached, indicted etc - it's going to get really ugly.
If he hangs on to 2020 and gets beat - it's gong to be a really scary ~70 days because as soon as he leaves office it's open season.

Not good that he's already floating these things....

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
154. He's advocating violence and intimidation against civilians to advance a political agenda
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:26 AM
Mar 2019

dude is the very definition of terrorist.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
176. He said this on Monday, and on the following Saturday a house of worship was attacked.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:21 AM
Apr 2019

He is asking his supporters to “get tough”.

Incitement, at the very least.

brewens

(13,595 posts)
156. My girlfriend and I do a lot of business at biker rallies. She especially has a lot of great old
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:47 AM
Mar 2019

biker friends. Some probably know someone that knows someone that you wouldn't want a problem with. Of course you don't call in that kind of favor if you have any sense. If someone seriously messed with her, the right people might find out about it and deal with it. It sure as shit isn't something you go around shooting your mouth off about.

I'd say the bikers I know tend to be conservative. A lot of them hated Son's of Anarchy because that kind of thing makes them look bad. That show was okay I thought, but got kind of ridiculous. There aren't enough hours in the day to be that bad assed of a bad assed biker! There's a reason why they don't call themselves "biker gangs". Even the guys that love Trump won't appreciate that.

There are the hard core 1%er bikers out there. Not as many as people think. Some are just wannabe's. I know a guy that wears a 1% patch and rides a Sportster! LOL The guys that would commit acts of violence for Trump are probably right in the middle of the meth trade and all that crap. Not exactly who you should be bragging about being fans.

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
182. My daughter works as banker during AZ bike week and meets them all!! She says 95+% are
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 01:54 AM
Apr 2019

Pretty laid back. Many are high paid execs playing bad boy. The “creed” of violence is pretty much a myth. She wouldn’t be there otherwise. She does the same job for the Barrett Jackson car auction and meets many many cops and retired cops doing security for her detail. Same there, most are really good guys. They don’t talk politics, but even in the red state of AZ they are not about supporting or inciting violence.. for anyone! Not even the orange goon

 

Cold War Spook

(1,279 posts)
157. I don't believe that the gang Dykes on Bikes gives a crap for him.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:21 AM
Mar 2019

I used to like watching the visitors from the mid West watching the parade on Gay Pride Day, especially when the see their son on one of the floats.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
160. He speaks like the mob
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:50 PM
Mar 2019

"That's some pretty nice peace and tranquility you have there. It'd be a shame of something happened to it."

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
172. It's those people shooting up places and running cars into people who will be his military though
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 12:10 AM
Apr 2019
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