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highplainsdem

(49,006 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:38 PM Mar 2019

Graham says he'll probe Rosenstein's 25th Amendment remarks

Source: The Hill

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Friday that the Senate Judiciary Committee would investigate Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein remarks about an alleged proposal to use the 25th Amendment to remove President Trump from office.

Graham, who chairs the Senate panel, sent a letter to Attorney General William Barr saying the committee plans to probe the allegations and offered a two-week deadline for Barr to hand over documents relating to Rosenstein's discussions with former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe about the alleged plan.

“The Committee is deeply concerned with these discussions and whether they essentially indicate that two of the highest ranking law enforcement officials in the United States were discussing what amounts to a coup against the President. Accordingly, the Committee plans to conduct oversight into these discussions and related matters,” Graham wrote.

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Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/434350-graham-says-judiciary-republicans-will-probe-rosensteins-25th-amendment

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Graham says he'll probe Rosenstein's 25th Amendment remarks (Original Post) highplainsdem Mar 2019 OP
Go for it. Iliyah Mar 2019 #1
The Kepler Elf squeaks again like a little mouse. Pathetic twerp without any balls. Trump's bitch. olegramps Mar 2019 #33
Yes, let's find out exactly why that lifelong Republican believed Trump is a threat to the USA. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #37
Graham needs to be probed, IMO. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #2
I heard the aliens tried but his head proved to be blocking their access. cstanleytech Mar 2019 #5
LOL! The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #18
I think Graham was Scarsdale Mar 2019 #23
It's undoubtedly already been probed. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #3
Hey if Lindsey wants to open the door to discuss why he and his fellow Repugnants do not want to cstanleytech Mar 2019 #4
Graham is a worthless POS. Initech Mar 2019 #6
When a pResident threatens citizens with the military, police and biker gangs he needs to be removed PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #7
Way back in 68 The Wizard Mar 2019 #39
Can't wait to hear Repub Rosenstein explain why he felt 25th amendment might be appropriate wishstar Mar 2019 #8
Go right ahead you jackass. GP6971 Mar 2019 #9
I will go on record right now & ask the russians to release all the dirt they have on Graham yaesu Mar 2019 #10
There was another thread here on DU I think, watoos Mar 2019 #19
This is 100% mob loyalty enforcement and 0% about law or justice unblock Mar 2019 #11
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Mar 2019 #12
Removing an incompetent and dangerous Bettie Mar 2019 #13
Lindsey regresses to his persona per 1998. Why did any of us (myself included) ever think salin Mar 2019 #14
Great. Give Rosenstein a public platform, please, to explain his views pnwmom Mar 2019 #15
So he wants to probe two lawyers discussing a ratified constitutional amendment..... jgmiller Mar 2019 #16
Yup, he is playing with fire and he does not even know it because it can open cstanleytech Mar 2019 #20
Coup against the President?????........But you said this......... W T F Mar 2019 #17
When (or if) this ever shakes out and justice is done DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #21
Graham is another one who loves Scarsdale Mar 2019 #24
He is the perfect height for his serviceing functions, such as being a suck ass and unmentionables. olegramps Mar 2019 #34
Uhm Lindsay, a moment The Liberal Lion Mar 2019 #22
Just keep chasing that Roadrunner, Wile. E. Coyote rickyhall Mar 2019 #25
Graham Cracker doesn't yet realize he's standing in midair over the canyon. lagomorph777 Mar 2019 #38
William Barr True Blue American Mar 2019 #26
I've had quite enough of Lindsey Graham Ponietz Mar 2019 #27
Good. We need an open discussion of Trump's obvious mental illness. Vinca Mar 2019 #28
So a discussion about a president's ability to serve, is a 'coup'? sinkingfeeling Mar 2019 #29
Lindsey, how about probing Trump's Second Amendment remarks? KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2019 #30
Hmmm Smackdown2019 Mar 2019 #31
Gray Ham's supporters EricMaundry Mar 2019 #32
I wish Graham would be "probed". George II Mar 2019 #35
He's got his squeaky cleansed by the blood of the lamb reputation to defend defacto7 Mar 2019 #36
Trump must have some real dirt on Lyndsey to turn him into the Trump Puppet he is now rurallib Mar 2019 #40
DOES HE NOT KNOW THAT the 25th amendment is part of the CONSTITUTION???? Kashkakat v.2.0 Mar 2019 #41
And find out it was justified. n/t gldstwmn Mar 2019 #42
Benghasi part 2 coming right up. Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #43
Graham must have a disease or something...he's got a conspiracy bug or something...he ... SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #44
we desperately need to take over the Senate in 2020!! riversedge Mar 2019 #46
I read that foxnews called it coup also. riversedge Mar 2019 #45
Graham needs to be defeated next year...by a South Carolina Democrat!! red dog 1 Mar 2019 #47
Graham just wants to change the subject. bluestarone Mar 2019 #48
absurd Takket Mar 2019 #49
It seems like how the process should work exboyfil Mar 2019 #55
The 25th amendment is part of the constitution Legrant Mar 2019 #50
If only some one would send the Historic NY Mar 2019 #51
I am not a psychiatrist Lindsey. But believe me, Trump is crazy. Sneederbunk Mar 2019 #52
Please proceed, Mr. Chiarman RandySF Mar 2019 #53
I know it is distracting exboyfil Mar 2019 #56
Graham is compromised by Russia, KGB, i refuse to use new name, GRu Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #54
Lindsey who? littlemissmartypants Mar 2019 #57
Please proceed. mahina Mar 2019 #58

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
33. The Kepler Elf squeaks again like a little mouse. Pathetic twerp without any balls. Trump's bitch.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 10:13 AM
Mar 2019

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
37. Yes, let's find out exactly why that lifelong Republican believed Trump is a threat to the USA.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 11:56 AM
Mar 2019

Let's hear all the details, Lindsey.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
23. I think Graham was
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 06:23 AM
Mar 2019

"probed" and the Russians have video!! Once he had a functioning brain, saw tRump as he really is. Then, one golf game later, he became a fan. Creepy little guy, with a permanent sneer on his face.

cstanleytech

(26,301 posts)
4. Hey if Lindsey wants to open the door to discuss why he and his fellow Repugnants do not want to
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:40 PM
Mar 2019

invoke the 25th amendment to remove an unfit person that is president then by all means lets go for it.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
7. When a pResident threatens citizens with the military, police and biker gangs he needs to be removed
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:49 PM
Mar 2019

you tell me he's not crazy. Bikers for tRump??? The dude is delirious!

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
39. Way back in 68
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 01:06 PM
Mar 2019

The Hells Angels said they wanted to go to Vietnam and defeat the North Vietnamese with their motorcycles. We laughed because we had real firepower that couldn't beat people defending their homeland. I've seen similar uber patriots show up an veteran events with their bikes calling themselves the "Patriot Guard," like we needed them to protect us. They even thought they were entitled to special parking privileges because they were waving flags. In reality, they're caricatures who want to feel like tough guys.

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
8. Can't wait to hear Repub Rosenstein explain why he felt 25th amendment might be appropriate
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 09:50 PM
Mar 2019

Rosenstein was supposed to be gone by now, but guess that was another of his sneaky tactics to protect Mueller while hanging on as long as possible making Trump think he was leaving soon. I doubt Rosenstein is too concerned over Graham's deep concerns when they both know Putin's puppet Trump is batshit crazy and crooked.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
10. I will go on record right now & ask the russians to release all the dirt they have on Graham
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:09 PM
Mar 2019

well, it worked for tRump so had to give it a try

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
19. There was another thread here on DU I think,
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:32 PM
Mar 2019

that stated that Corker, Flake, and Graham had the same email systems and they were hacked by Russia. Makes sense if true as to why Corker and Flake retired and Graham became a Trump fluffer.

unblock

(52,267 posts)
11. This is 100% mob loyalty enforcement and 0% about law or justice
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:09 PM
Mar 2019

There is no legal basis for a probe. So what if there was a conversation about the 25th amendment. It's perfectly legal to talk about it. It's perfectly legal to talk about impeachment, too. It's perfectly legal to talk about investigating and indicting and prosecuting the president also.

It's a completely idiotic fabrication to then say that this means there's some bias. That's like saying "hey! That cop pulled me over then started talking about speeding! Bias!"

Bettie

(16,111 posts)
13. Removing an incompetent and dangerous
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:15 PM
Mar 2019

man from the highest office in the nation isn't a "coup", it is the duty of the people in a position to observe it.

salin

(48,955 posts)
14. Lindsey regresses to his persona per 1998. Why did any of us (myself included) ever think
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:19 PM
Mar 2019

he had grown up passed his attack dog persona of the Clinton Impeachment era.

He had broadened his persona. Now he is back to being a nasty tool.

Imagine building a broader brand, and then 20 yrs later, deciding to emulate Devin Nunez.

Evil and pathetic.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
15. Great. Give Rosenstein a public platform, please, to explain his views
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:28 PM
Mar 2019

on Trump's mental stability and his ability to make decisions on behalf of the US, rather than Russia.

jgmiller

(395 posts)
16. So he wants to probe two lawyers discussing a ratified constitutional amendment.....
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:42 PM
Mar 2019

I say go for it! Any discussion of the constitution in his committee would be a step in the right direction.

cstanleytech

(26,301 posts)
20. Yup, he is playing with fire and he does not even know it because it can open
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:34 PM
Mar 2019

the door into finding out why the Repugnants are not doing their sworn duty in removing someone unfit as president.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
21. When (or if) this ever shakes out and justice is done
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:44 PM
Mar 2019

I hope they bury that fucker graham face down at the bottom of the fucking pile.

godam gop traitors. Every one of them. But that graham seems to be an exceptionally gleeful lackey. What do they have on him?

Film at 11, lindsey?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
24. Graham is another one who loves
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 06:29 AM
Mar 2019

to appear on camera. I do not know why, since he is a tiny little guy. Always looks like he is standing in a hole, when surrounded by reporters even female reporters! Time to retire wander off into the sunset with one of his guy "friends"

The Liberal Lion

(1,414 posts)
22. Uhm Lindsay, a moment
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 01:36 AM
Mar 2019

uhm, it's not a coup if removal is by way of the 25th amendment. You may want to brush up on your JAG skills here.

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
26. William Barr
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:12 AM
Mar 2019

Has now joined the Trump cult.

He was there when Trump vetoed the Border bill saying,”” The President absolutely has the right to declare an emergency.”

The fix is in with Barr. He covered Iran/ Contra will now do the same for Russia/ Trump and the mob.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
30. Lindsey, how about probing Trump's Second Amendment remarks?
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:42 AM
Mar 2019

And after you're finished with that, we'll dig deep into his abuses of the First Amendment.....

There was something I vaguely recall about that Oath of Office......

Smackdown2019

(1,188 posts)
31. Hmmm
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:35 AM
Mar 2019

So why is the 25th amendment is in the Constitution when a Senator believes it is a serious offense for it to be used? This to me sounds like OBSTRUCTION by Lindsey. Coup, lol..... only he wishes! Everybody knows Lindsey is a sad boy that he was not picked as for the Attorney General position. He still trumpets for his Furher....!

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
36. He's got his squeaky cleansed by the blood of the lamb reputation to defend
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 11:54 AM
Mar 2019

from his secret sins lurking beneath.

rurallib

(62,431 posts)
40. Trump must have some real dirt on Lyndsey to turn him into the Trump Puppet he is now
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 01:10 PM
Mar 2019

it will come out I am sure. Probably has to do with Russians.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
41. DOES HE NOT KNOW THAT the 25th amendment is part of the CONSTITUTION????
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 01:22 PM
Mar 2019

Considering , and deciding against, using a constitutional mechanism for removing a president does not constitute a "coup."

SWBTATTReg

(22,144 posts)
44. Graham must have a disease or something...he's got a conspiracy bug or something...he ...
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 02:23 PM
Mar 2019

keeps yapping about HRC and that she needs to be investigated (again? for the 17th time?). He keeps yapping about Rosenstein's 25th amendment remarks (whereas the Congress and members of it should have already said / discussed this as part of their job, which they have failed miserably at).

What I like to see investigated is how Congress passed a tax cut and jobs bill that pretty well gave over 80% of the benefits to the top 1%ers, and preached that Americans in general will reap about $4000 in benefits from this bill. The vast majority of us haven't seen squat (pay increases or anything else for that matter, and prices still keep going up, despite the nice tax cut businesses got).

This is fraud and should be investigated for out and out criminal conduct

bluestarone

(16,988 posts)
48. Graham just wants to change the subject.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:22 PM
Mar 2019

Doesn't want people to talk about White Supremacy anymore! and the mass shooting!!

Takket

(21,582 posts)
49. absurd
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 07:50 PM
Mar 2019

if Graham wants to make a fool of himself, i say we let him

A "coup"

fuck off

the 25th requires the cabinet to declare an incapacity. Not Rosenstein. He can ask the question about whether it should be used but it is no more a "coup" than any post on DU talking about it. Rosenstein can discuss it, demand it, stomp his feet and hold his breath until he turns blue, but he CANNOT use the 25th on his own, and the cabinet using it is not a "coup" since the Constitution grants them the authority to do so.

So go ahead lindsey, have public hearings on this, and let yourself by humiliated by Rosenstain having to explain the Constitution to you.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
55. It seems like how the process should work
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:24 PM
Mar 2019

Rosenstein would make a referral to the AG or if he feels that the AG is compromised or unable to make a rational decision, then to the VP.

We would expect any individual close to the President to act in that fashion if the behavior warrants it.

I personally don't think it applies in this case, but that doesn't change the fact that a reasonable person could conclude that it should at least be discussed. Plenty of constitutional checks to prevent its abuse.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
56. I know it is distracting
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:25 PM
Mar 2019

but it is too good an opportunity to pass up. Democratic Senators should jump all over it.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
54. Graham is compromised by Russia, KGB, i refuse to use new name, GRu
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 08:57 PM
Mar 2019

I just wish others would stop helping them

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