Wow!!...Talk about projecting your own weakness....Good gawd a'mighty!!

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""Obama will say things that aren't true whenever he quotes me."

"I'm a weak debater and a mendacious turd, ergo I'm going to insinuate that my opponent will be the one peddling falsehoods".

A classic Rovian technique.

There are two basic key components to successful inoculation. The first is threat, which provides motivation to protect one's attitudes or beliefs (Pfau, 1997a). Refutational preemption is the second component . Refutational preemption is the cognitive part of the process. It is the ability to activate one's own argument for future defense and strengthen their existing attitudes through counterarguing. (Pfau, 1997)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculation_theory

even the limp dick mass media are insinuating that Romney has a fondness for falsehood. That's a bad, bad room to have checked yourself into when you're trying to unseat a sitting President. He's forged himself an unfavourable reputation in that space, and it's oozed into the mainstream.

Since Mitt's people will want to watch him, they will also see and hear Obama, something they usually only get through Fox News.

This will set up the follow-up to the debates where they announce Obama lied and of course goes with the (lack of) reality that the Republicans have been pounding into their followers head.

he really makes me sick.....

This guy doesn't learn.

He is still in the midst of being reprimanded for his Libya accusations

and

Here he goes again

Spewing out another accusation

Another neurotic flaw - projection. Especially since Lyin' Ryan and the rest of the
Repukes have done nothing but lie.

The GOP needs to go away!

and his buddy LyNRyan are birds that flock together.

I'm there already Mittard.

Please, please let Romney prove incapable of losing that stiff, snooty demeanor -- forced laughs and all -- during the debates.

Accuse your opponent of your own weaknesses. Ever since Carl Rove stepped into the public arena this is what we have had to deal with.
The swift boating of Kerry was a text book case of this where a veteran was shamed by a draft dodger.

and yet he says it's the president who lies!?

Actually, HE is the one who will say things that are not true.

He's setting us up for it.

When he gets cornered be facts in the debate, Romney will try shaking his head at the camera and going: "ha-ha-ha-ha-ha" to imply Obama's lying. That will have to be as frustrating to the president as will be to me. TeaBaggers will get it.

I would LOVE to see that laugh - that awful, ridiculous laugh! - as many times as possible during the debates. Nothing more amusing than a dick laughing at his own jokes!

a follow-up question I might expect from a reporter might go something like, "You have accused the president of lying in previous debates, please give some examples".

If we only had journalists!

because he's practicing against another Republican.

What Portman (or Kerry) is supposed to do is to try to use the best/strongest attacks or responses that the Republican is reasonably likely to use. The idea is to get their nominee able to have the needed concise response that slams the issue down.

Portman prepped Bush and McCain - neither of whom had good debates, though Bush likely did better in 2000 than he should have even before the media made on issue of "sighing". This does not say Portman is bad at this, look at what he had to work with! Again this year, he has what likely is an impossible job.

The ONLY weakness that reporters have suggested for Obama is that he has not debated since 2008. However, this ignores that he has met the press and Congress answering questions well - he is really good at that. In addition, he has something he did not have in 2008 - he is the President and that matters. Yet his practice will be against one of the best debaters in decades - who will likely be a tougher version of Romney than Romney himself! It is hard to believe that Obama, with the increased gravitas of the Presidency, his incredible intelligence, calm personality, and very pleasant smile won't look even better next to a Romney who can't hide his sneers and smirks.

I suspect one dynamic that Romney should - but won't - worry about is that he has always been the top guy in the room with the most power. This has been the case since he was tapped to be CEO of Bain Capital. Think of the times he pulled rank in the primary debates and remember how badly he responded when Gingrich called him when he said he had not wanted to be a career politician.

to your thoughtful and instructive reply to my (half-assed) joke. I think Mr. Obama will rip him a new one, which I think Rmoney needs for all the crap that he just keeps coming our his mouth.

repugs are going to claim everything Obama said was a lie anyways and that Mittens was 100% truthful. I am not sure at the time when these debates happen if there is going to be any real undecideds left out there. Everyone will have probably picked a side by then and even though the President will trample Rmoney into the ground verbally each side will claim their man to be the winner. It is still going to be fun to watch and I am looking forward to the debates more then I am for Christmas.

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"Obama will say things that aren't true every time he quotes me directly."

May be too dry for some perhaps but I like it.

this guy is rich. Literally and figuratively. he's just a liar period

Like Mitt's tax returns. They could probably talk about those for hours.

rmoney is the sort of guy who would throw a knife at someone in order to shoot him in self-defense.

Obama can now relax. All he has to do is stay away from "things that aren't true" and bust Rmoney's chops with facts. Then Rmoney has only two options- get pissed off and blow his cool, or go on the defensive.

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Yikes. I remember that and I was surprised how well it worked. Sounds like Romney is going to do it.
Question is how to best defeat that tactic.

i think the best response is "NO, there YOU go again...."

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Is $100,000 middle income?
MITT ROMNEY: No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less.

find untruths in many things. There truly are two sets of facts and it corresponds with our two tiered society. What Mitt sees as truth is true for the 1% and what Democrats are saying is true for the rest of us. It all depends on which truth is actually good for all of us. That is where I follow the Democrats long before I follow the gop.

I don't think there is any CW that Obama lies or even often misstates stuff. There are CW that Romney and Ryan do.

Back in 1992, when Dan Quayle misspelled potato, many commented that this same mistake would not have hurt Bill Clinton - because there was not CW that he dumb.

Truly no moral compass for such a "religious" man....disgusting....

psycho and psychic!?

Or a better take is to quote Ben Colder from Hello Walls: "One of us is plastered, and I'll let you guess who."

Gary Johnson, on the ballot in 48 states and Jill Stein, on the ballot in 33 states are the only two candidates to have qualified for and accepted Federal Election Commission matching presidential campaign funds. Yet, they are being excluded from the debates by the private Commission on Federal Debates.

Without these two candidates in the debate, there are many issues that will not be lied about, they won't even be brought up.

Perhaps you could help and let a few friends know?

http://www.change.org/petitions/open-up-the-2012-presidential-debates

http://openupthedebates.org/

But..it was meant for Republican voters.
I think it was Machiavellianly brilliant in that regard.

Authoritarians, which conservatives are overwhelmingly, will believe anything they have to in order to sustain their viewpoint. All they need is to be fed what they believe from above. They are all now preconditioned to watch the debates with the understanding that everything Obama says, especially when refuting their candidate, is a LIE. Simple, just the way they like it. And the more the librul media says otherwise, that's just more proof they have it right.

"This charge is laughable considering the source.

Mr. Romney wouldn't recognize the truth if it bit him on the butt.

Which it does.

Fairly frequently.

Not that he's noticed."

Romney is going to a knife fight. He knows Obama is going to bring a gun for each hand and one in his sock... Romney, in turn, is bringing a sock full of gravel.

The Reagan quote worked for Reagan because it was so unexpected. Saying you're gonna use it three weeks before a debate gives your opponent three weeks to decide how to turn it back on you.

The thing about Romney saying Obama misquotes him.... Romney has pretty much announced Obama is going to curb stomp him but that's okay, voters-who-already-were-mine, the socialist Kenyan just lies about me.

One of the Republicans' favorite stratagies. Virtually every vile false accusation Romney has made, he and/or his minions have blamed Obama for having done. Whenever they blame the Democrats for something, one can be relatively certain that they have done or are about to do.

London Olympics, Libya, accusing the President of lying... I don't know how his brain can possibly think that this verbal vomit that he apparently can't help but spew is somehow helping his bid for the presidency.

The mormons want nothing to do with him