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Judi Lynn

(160,621 posts)
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 02:04 AM Apr 2019

US Criticizes Vietnam's Ban on Suspected Cancer-Causing Herbicides

Source: VOA News


April 12, 2019 0:21 AM
VOA News

The Trump administration says Vietnam’s decision to ban herbicides with an ingredient suspected of causing cancer will hurt, not help farmers.

Glyphosate is a chief ingredient in the best-selling herbicide Roundup. Vietnam says it will stop importing Roundup and all other weed killers with the chemical in June.

U.S. agriculture secretary Sonny Perdue says he is disappointed in Vietnam’s decision, saying it will have “devastating impacts.”

“If we’re going to feed 10 billion people by 2050, farmers worldwide need all the tools and technologies at our disposal,” he said Thursday.

Read more: https://www.voanews.com/a/us-criticizes-vietnam-s-ban-on-suspected-cancer-causing-herbicides-/4872784.html

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US Criticizes Vietnam's Ban on Suspected Cancer-Causing Herbicides (Original Post) Judi Lynn Apr 2019 OP
That country has been sprayed so much SHRED Apr 2019 #1
It's a wonder the survivors didn't all go mad after the hell unleashed upon them by the U.S. n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2019 #7
The West can learn a lot from the East SHRED Apr 2019 #8
Yuck. Socal31 Apr 2019 #2
Well said. n/t susanna Apr 2019 #15
Yah the black irony is immense is it not? benfranklin1776 Apr 2019 #42
Wow! Trump as a Russian agent, code word: Orange patphil Apr 2019 #45
The US is in no position to lecture Vietnam on halting herbacide usage on their lands Devil Child Apr 2019 #3
And i think the EU has done similar hasnt it? oldsoftie Apr 2019 #19
WTF?! sakabatou Apr 2019 #4
The next logical step..... Socal31 Apr 2019 #5
Hey, isn't that the thing a shill said was non-toxic but ran away when offered a glass of it? ck4829 Apr 2019 #6
Yes Hilarious video oldsoftie Apr 2019 #18
The trumphucks are Toxic Cha Apr 2019 #9
Seems like a Vietnamese domestic issue Sapient Donkey Apr 2019 #10
I agree. We fucked that country up enough already TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #33
Ah, but we're the ones selling the carcinogens... Wounded Bear Apr 2019 #40
Bingo! benfranklin1776 Apr 2019 #43
That's pretty much the only reason I could think of as to why they are making it an issue Sapient Donkey Apr 2019 #47
Cancer in humans is not the only issue... tecelote Apr 2019 #11
We didn't just spray the Vietnamese, watoos Apr 2019 #12
Unreal. Solly Mack Apr 2019 #13
wow, this is sick. MBS Apr 2019 #14
That is trump adiministration logic right there: logosoco Apr 2019 #16
Population control is a better idea TexasBushwhacker Apr 2019 #34
Havent some states also banned it? I know Costco no longer sells it & i thought TN was too oldsoftie Apr 2019 #17
Way to go Vietnam. After our gift of Agent Orange, they have common sense. sinkingfeeling Apr 2019 #20
There won't be 10 billion people to feed if farmers are using Roundup. Vinca Apr 2019 #21
First Agent Orange, now Roundup: what's Monsanto up to in Vietnam? Ecologist Special Investigation safeinOhio Apr 2019 #22
"Suspected." Archae Apr 2019 #23
You may not use chemicals but it's on the food you buy. StarryNite Apr 2019 #26
Yeah, I worked for Owens Illionois, watoos Apr 2019 #30
We are being bombarded by things that cause cancer. StarryNite Apr 2019 #44
Ah, the irony PatSeg Apr 2019 #24
The only "devastating impacts" are to the profits of the chemical companies making these poisons. ET Awful Apr 2019 #25
but he's correct doncha know.... Locrian Apr 2019 #27
Roundup Use jumped from,,,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2019 #28
They'll figure out some way to ransom their World Bank loans or something until they knuckle under pecosbob Apr 2019 #29
I think Bayer bought out Monsanto. watoos Apr 2019 #31
Evil and Eviler combined pecosbob Apr 2019 #32
can we spray it on all the trumps? samnsara Apr 2019 #35
" Monsanto ". didn't even have to read the article California_Republic Apr 2019 #36
Good for you Vietnam... JaxMan Apr 2019 #37
Is Sunless Perdue determined to kill off amphibians faster? Chytrid not fast enough? lostnfound Apr 2019 #38
And then there is this great video clip. Grins Apr 2019 #39
Hive Collapse EttuBrute Apr 2019 #41
Can easily see why you would have backed away. Only so much sadness, dismay can one absorb. Judi Lynn Apr 2019 #49
Herbicides that science says cause cancer-good. Windmills- bad. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #46
How long until this administration starts telling other countries to stop building windmills? Sapient Donkey Apr 2019 #48
There was a time that that would have been an outlandish statement. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #50
Profits over people. procon Apr 2019 #51

Judi Lynn

(160,621 posts)
7. It's a wonder the survivors didn't all go mad after the hell unleashed upon them by the U.S. n/t
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 02:44 AM
Apr 2019

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
2. Yuck.
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 02:11 AM
Apr 2019

Something about the US .gov lecturing the Vietnamese on the safety of foilage-targeting chemicals.......

benfranklin1776

(6,449 posts)
42. Yah the black irony is immense is it not?
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 12:29 PM
Apr 2019

Of course this is not surprising since Agent Orange (Drumpf) believes that asbestos is a wonderful thing and should be brought back 😡

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
3. The US is in no position to lecture Vietnam on halting herbacide usage on their lands
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 02:16 AM
Apr 2019

The arrogance in doing so is mind-boggling.

Socal31

(2,484 posts)
5. The next logical step.....
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 02:35 AM
Apr 2019

I heard the NRC is going to lecture Fallujah on the safety of depleted uranium.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
10. Seems like a Vietnamese domestic issue
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 04:27 AM
Apr 2019

Really doesn't seem like any of our business to tell them what herbicides they should and shouldn't allow.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
47. That's pretty much the only reason I could think of as to why they are making it an issue
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:02 AM
Apr 2019

Someone complained about it and asked for some words to be said. It has to be it. I hope I am wrong and maybe someone can explain how that's wrong, but I can't think of anything else that seem plausible.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
12. We didn't just spray the Vietnamese,
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 05:30 AM
Apr 2019

my cousin has been in a wheelchair for 45 years with MS-like symptoms from Agent Orange.

I would never use Roundup and I eat organic foods and I'm not telling anyone else what to do, eat what you want. When food doesn't spoil that should tell people something. My potatoes , if left long enough will have eyes start to grow from them, GMO potatoes can't grow eyes.

Google Fox v Monsanto, a husband and wife who worked for a Fox affiliate in Florida did a story on farming. They exposed all of the use of Glyphosate, steroids, antibiotics and more. They submitted their report that were going to air on TV. Monsanto got involved and edited their report. The reporters refused to air the edited version because it was a lie. Fox fired them. They sued in court and won, the 1st case, they lost the appeal case. The decision basically said that the Fox employees were obligated to report the lies on TV, that they were insubordinate and Fox had every right to fire them.

Bon Apatite

MBS

(9,688 posts)
14. wow, this is sick.
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 05:39 AM
Apr 2019

It's bad enough when this regime bans U.S. states (see the recent "executive order&quot from having stricter environmental regulations than what's left of the federal environmental regulations that he's so zealously dismantled. Now he's criticizing other countries for trying to ensure a healthy ecosystem for its citizens? WTF?

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
16. That is trump adiministration logic right there:
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 06:30 AM
Apr 2019

you have to use toxic substances on food NOW so it will be possible to feed people 30 YEARS from now.

safeinOhio

(32,715 posts)
22. First Agent Orange, now Roundup: what's Monsanto up to in Vietnam? Ecologist Special Investigation
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 07:35 AM
Apr 2019
https://theecologist.org/2016/oct/10/first-agent-orange-now-roundup-whats-monsanto-vietnam-ecologist-special-investigation

As Vietnam embraces American culture, the US food gang is back in force - McDonalds, Starbucks, KFC, Coca-Cola.
And Monsanto.
Well, Monsanto does not exactly advertise its presence because it is more on the Apocalypse Now side of things. Actually, when it comes to the food chain, Monsanto is more like the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse - War, Pestilence, Famine and Death.
As Monsanto rides roughshod over farmers, buys off politicians and pays off scientists, the Four Horsemen could easily be symbolic for the four GM crops they control: GM corn, cotton, soybeans and canola (rapeseed).

Archae

(46,345 posts)
23. "Suspected."
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 08:14 AM
Apr 2019

Fact is, life itself causes cancer.

Last July I had cancer surgery.

What should I blame it on?

I don't smoke, drink, use chemicals on gardens and whatnot, so who should I sue?

StarryNite

(9,460 posts)
26. You may not use chemicals but it's on the food you buy.
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 08:35 AM
Apr 2019

Another highly toxic product is fabric softener, both liquid and dryer sheets.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
30. Yeah, I worked for Owens Illionois,
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 08:52 AM
Apr 2019

the Owens Corning division made asbestos and they knew it caused asbestosis. They are still paying out claims to people. This is a fact, Hitler knew about the dangers of asbestos and he protected his workers against exposure to it.

I worked around methyl chloride, we used it as an adhesive to stick labels to glass bottles. I got cancer, can't prove where I got it from, but I got it fixed soon enough that I have been cancer free for 20 years.

That's one thing about cancer, sometimes it takes a while to kill you and a doctor rarely says how you got it.

I do organic and home grown food, I don't need to buy food that never spoils because it is full of preservatives and poison. Oh and the organic food tastes better.

Oh, here's another one. My friend who was born with 1 kidney got cancer in it. He went to the Cleveland clinic where the doctor told him he planned to take out 30% of his kidney. The doctor took out 70% of his kidney, because something else was attacking it, Prilosec. That's according to a surgeon from the Cleveland clinic. My friend is doing fine and doesn't even need dialysis. He stopped taking Prilosec for his heart burn though.

StarryNite

(9,460 posts)
44. We are being bombarded by things that cause cancer.
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 02:02 PM
Apr 2019

The manufacturers know it as do the government agencies that are supposed to regulate such things. It's all about greed. Parabens are yet another thing that is in so many products that we put on our skin and it's absorbed into our bodies. The list goes on and on.

Isn't tRump trying to bring asbestos back into the country? I think he wants to import it from Russia if I remember correctly.

PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
24. Ah, the irony
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 08:26 AM
Apr 2019

Monsanto was one of the producers of Agent Orange. None of us have any reason to trust this company and their herbicides, least of all Vietnam.

ET Awful

(24,753 posts)
25. The only "devastating impacts" are to the profits of the chemical companies making these poisons.
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 08:33 AM
Apr 2019

Now I'm curious how far up the chain from Perdue we'd have to go to find lobbyist money tied to Monsanto, DuPont, Dow, etc.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
27. but he's correct doncha know....
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 08:38 AM
Apr 2019

>>U.S. agriculture secretary Sonny Perdue says he is disappointed in Vietnam’s decision, saying it will have “devastating impacts.”

It will simply be DEVESTATING to their profits - I do declare....

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
28. Roundup Use jumped from,,,,,,
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 08:43 AM
Apr 2019

87 million lbs in 1987 to over 300 million lbs in 2014,,,,, that s just in teh USA. It all ends up in our water ... my little river that runs thru my front yard in the last 7 yrs has become a "Dead" drainage ditch void of almost all aquatic life.......But MonSanto doing great!

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
29. They'll figure out some way to ransom their World Bank loans or something until they knuckle under
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 08:52 AM
Apr 2019

I think that's Monsanto's m.o.

pecosbob

(7,543 posts)
32. Evil and Eviler combined
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 08:54 AM
Apr 2019

I even read they have been quietly trying to corner the marijuana seed market.

lostnfound

(16,189 posts)
38. Is Sunless Perdue determined to kill off amphibians faster? Chytrid not fast enough?
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 10:51 AM
Apr 2019

I believe glyphosate makes the eggs too permeable and frogs can’t reproduce.

Frog species are going extinct from chytrid fungus in high numbers right now. It’s not a good time.

Grins

(7,228 posts)
39. And then there is this great video clip.
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 10:57 AM
Apr 2019

Glyphosate is a key component in Monsanto's "Round-Up"

Four years ago, in an interview with a reporter from French television station Canal+, shill-Meister and grifting phony. Dr. Patrick Moore, claimed it was safe. In fact, so safe you could "drink it!"

So, on camera, the French reporter handed him a glass of it! And, as they say, hilarity ensued:

YouTube; about 2-minutes:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiPo4up5crhAhWx1FkKHVY-At4QtwIILjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dp_sOIuTa920&usg=AOvVaw1K2kRW20Fxh3NE5nOMffVc

EttuBrute

(10 posts)
41. Hive Collapse
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 11:26 AM
Apr 2019

I think it is very likely linked top the killing of beehives known as hive collapse. I have lost all mine three times and have given up. Very sad.

Judi Lynn

(160,621 posts)
49. Can easily see why you would have backed away. Only so much sadness, dismay can one absorb.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 03:04 AM
Apr 2019

Seeing what apparently happens to them at that location would be too painful to try again.

Hope we all live long enough to see this disaster reversed in our world.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
48. How long until this administration starts telling other countries to stop building windmills?
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 02:11 AM
Apr 2019

Think we'll hear a speech from Trump saying "Mrs. Merkel, tear down those windmills."

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
50. There was a time that that would have been an outlandish statement.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 07:12 AM
Apr 2019

But honestly, I can imagine him saying that. And his Trumpers cheering!

procon

(15,805 posts)
51. Profits over people.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 07:30 AM
Apr 2019

We continue to turn a blind eye on political corruption that allows the producers of dangerous substances to openly bribe the government to protect their greed.
People die.
The environment is polluted.
Our future is at risk.
Water is toxic.
The food supply is contaminated.

It won't stop until we get serious and demand and end to the money that is destroying the pitiful remains of our democracy.

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