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Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:28 PM Sep 2012

Base where Prince Harry is stationed stormed by heavily armed insurgents, two Marines killed

Source: National Post

WASHINGTON — Heavily armed insurgents attacked a British air base in southern Afghanistan Friday, killing two U.S. Marines and wounding several other troops, U.S. officials said.

Prince Harry, third in line to the British throne, is stationed at the base on a four-month combat tour in Afghanistan. There was no immediate word on his whereabouts at the time of the attack.

U.S. officials said the attack at Camp Bastion in Afghanistan’s Helmand province involved a range of insurgent weaponry, possibly including mortars, rockets or rocket-propelled grenades, as well as small arms fire.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because U.S. military authorities in Afghanistan had not yet announced the battle.

Read more: http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/09/14/prince-harry-afghanistan/

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Base where Prince Harry is stationed stormed by heavily armed insurgents, two Marines killed (Original Post) Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 OP
Probably soon to be the base where Prince Harry used to be stationed... 47of74 Sep 2012 #1
yup Liberal_in_LA Sep 2012 #20
No doubt XemaSab Sep 2012 #24
Certainly hope so! Myrina Sep 2012 #39
hopefully along with every other soldier posted there maxsolomon Sep 2012 #2
Is this related to all the other turmoil going on Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #3
Probably not; chunks of Afghanistan have been pretty hot for awhile. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #5
No. I posted an AP article that cited the taliban xchrom Sep 2012 #7
When the shit hits the fan it really hits the fan Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #14
Probably not Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #9
Aside from the film trumoil that's going on Kindly Refrain Sep 2012 #17
I don't buy that for a moment - unit rotations are rarely on that kind of notice. Posteritatis Sep 2012 #22
Yes - it was reported as that, just before the photos came out muriel_volestrangler Sep 2012 #44
Very responsible of you to post something like that, National Post. Oy. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #4
MSNBC aired it minutes later, too. Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #16
I simply do not understand why the defensive forces in the bases, embassies and consulates being spayneuter Sep 2012 #6
The real world is a teeeeeensy bit more complex than that. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #8
No, it is not. There are insane religious thugs who want to kill people over an insipid 'insult' spayneuter Sep 2012 #12
... I'm gonna guess your warfare-related knowledge comes from television or something. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #21
Or the Prince Joffrey School of Crowd Calming wickerwoman Sep 2012 #40
If you bum-rush the cops then you should be prepared to get shot XemaSab Sep 2012 #25
And that showed things are little more complex than this guy's suggesting too, didn't it? Posteritatis Sep 2012 #28
Shooting unarmed civilians is always bad for PR, even if they are pissed and storming your facility. slackmaster Sep 2012 #10
And shooting at armed not-civilians presents its own unique challenges, too. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2012 #11
Who gives a fuck about PR?? I sure don't. Why should we subsume OUR human rights to a bunch spayneuter Sep 2012 #13
That didn't really work for Gadaffi or Mubarak. CJCRANE Sep 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Sep 2012 #19
I used to ask myself that same question WooWooWoo Sep 2012 #27
Destroy Pakistani military capabilities cosmicone Sep 2012 #15
Why the hell should it? US spends millions to kill one "insurgent". TheMadMonk Sep 2012 #41
The Iraq war was a mistake. cosmicone Sep 2012 #47
Horribly sad. More killings. Someone is certainly destabilizing things in the ME this week.. progressivebydesign Sep 2012 #18
Bremer, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz - the Four Horse's Asses of the Apocalypse LiberalEsto Sep 2012 #37
Earlier this week there were threats against him flamingdem Sep 2012 #26
Say what you want about Harry, but he's in combat. no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #29
We're . . turning the corner ???? n/t Strelnikov_ Sep 2012 #30
I thought he was stationed in Las Vegas. olddad56 Sep 2012 #31
There's light . . at the . . end of the tunnel ? n/t Strelnikov_ Sep 2012 #32
Is probably christx30 Sep 2012 #43
Time to get with the program? Strelnikov_ Sep 2012 #33
The Prince is bait. bluedigger Sep 2012 #34
I'm so naive, that hadn't even occurred to me. Lucy Goosey Sep 2012 #36
Well, with his knowledge at least. bluedigger Sep 2012 #38
He's there as bait pscot Sep 2012 #35
I'm sure he distinguished himself relative to his class. grahamhgreen Sep 2012 #42
Romney silent WallaceRitchie Sep 2012 #45
My kid is at Camp Bastion lanlady Sep 2012 #46
 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
1. Probably soon to be the base where Prince Harry used to be stationed...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:30 PM
Sep 2012

The CO's probably making arrangements to get him out of there now.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
7. No. I posted an AP article that cited the taliban
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:46 PM
Sep 2012

As saying they would try to kidnap or kill the prince.

What should alarm people is that the Taliban still seem to be able to strike where they want - in spite of the occupation, money spent & lives lost.

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
9. Probably not
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:49 PM
Sep 2012

From the article linked in the OP:

It also was not clear Friday whether the attack was linked at all to the protests and violence across the Muslim world this week that has been linked to an anti-Islamic film. Afghanistan’s southern region has been a hotbed of the insurgency and frequent attacks.
 

Kindly Refrain

(423 posts)
17. Aside from the film trumoil that's going on
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:56 PM
Sep 2012

the circumstances surrounding the Prince are strange as well, I've heard it suggested that he was sent to Afghanistan to divert attention form the nude Vegas photos. What a crazy, strange, weird world we live in.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
22. I don't buy that for a moment - unit rotations are rarely on that kind of notice.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:03 PM
Sep 2012

Much more likely that the Vegas thing was a pre-deployment party instead.

 

spayneuter

(134 posts)
6. I simply do not understand why the defensive forces in the bases, embassies and consulates being
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:45 PM
Sep 2012

attacked by thugs don't just shoot the bastards dead and keep on killing them until they quit. What the hell is the point in keeping guards that can't keep a fundamentalist mob from coming in and murdering people?

 

spayneuter

(134 posts)
12. No, it is not. There are insane religious thugs who want to kill people over an insipid 'insult'
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:52 PM
Sep 2012

and they need to be sent off the planet ASAP. This is not rocket science or even political science, it's thugs against people who didn't do anything wrong.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
25. If you bum-rush the cops then you should be prepared to get shot
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:11 PM
Sep 2012

At the very least we should have flash-bang grenades, sonic weapons, and rubber bullets.

You know, like we use on protesters in OAKLAND.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
28. And that showed things are little more complex than this guy's suggesting too, didn't it?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:18 PM
Sep 2012

Keep in mind he also thinks the solution in Afghanistan is "keep killing them until they stop," so he also thinks open warfare is simply that easy too.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
10. Shooting unarmed civilians is always bad for PR, even if they are pissed and storming your facility.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:50 PM
Sep 2012
 

spayneuter

(134 posts)
13. Who gives a fuck about PR?? I sure don't. Why should we subsume OUR human rights to a bunch
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:54 PM
Sep 2012

of illiterate fundamentalist psychopaths? I would say the same thing if they were Christains or any other gang operating under the umbrella of Religion.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
23. That didn't really work for Gadaffi or Mubarak.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:05 PM
Sep 2012

Eventually they come back in bigger numbers and with more weapons.

Wise leaders de-escalate conflicts.

Response to spayneuter (Reply #6)

WooWooWoo

(454 posts)
27. I used to ask myself that same question
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:15 PM
Sep 2012

when I was ducking incoming mortar rounds and small arms fire.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
15. Destroy Pakistani military capabilities
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:55 PM
Sep 2012

with a few airstrikes on critical assets and all this BS will stop.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
41. Why the hell should it? US spends millions to kill one "insurgent".
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:45 PM
Sep 2012

They spend a small company of insurgents and a couple of thousand dollars of their own to kill one US soldier, you spend/expend tens of millions chasing the wind and building up ill will by taking revenge on women and children.

And when presented with opportunity, just ONE of them all too often manages to take out several of our own boys, with a weapon we put in his hands for "training purposes".

The United States has already beggared itself pursuing the wars it already has and you want to double down?

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
47. The Iraq war was a mistake.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:00 PM
Sep 2012

There is no Afghan war. Afghanis by and large support the US and its Afghan allies.

The REAL war is in Pakistan. You silence Pakistan and Afghans will be free.

The cost of a few airstrikes to destroy Pakistani military and intelligence capabilities will be the difference between winning the Afghan war and losing it so badly that as soon as we leave, terrorist elements take over and repeat something like 9/11.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
18. Horribly sad. More killings. Someone is certainly destabilizing things in the ME this week..
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:57 PM
Sep 2012

always curious who is pulling what strings, as it seem the Bremer, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz, have suddenly appeared en scene this past week starting on 9/11 when the coordinated attacks on the President's ability to handle the ME. Curious...

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
37. Bremer, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz - the Four Horse's Asses of the Apocalypse
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:07 PM
Sep 2012

Why won't they go back to their undisclosed locations and STAY there?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
26. Earlier this week there were threats against him
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:14 PM
Sep 2012

So this is probably about that - not necessarily connected

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
34. The Prince is bait.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:42 PM
Sep 2012

The problem with fighting a guerrilla insurgency is getting the enemy to mass their forces on a field of your choosing where you can bring superior firepower to bear. Harry is catnip to the Taliban and they are taking advantage of it. They will probably move him to a remote base and keep it a poorly guarded secret.

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
36. I'm so naive, that hadn't even occurred to me.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:02 PM
Sep 2012

This would be done with (Prince) Captain Wales's consent, I presume?

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
38. Well, with his knowledge at least.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:48 PM
Sep 2012

He's no better than third in line to the throne, I think, and as soon as he's an uncle, pretty expendable in a geopolitical sense.

Call it the dues he has to pay for a long future life of aristocratic privilege.

WallaceRitchie

(242 posts)
45. Romney silent
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 05:38 AM
Sep 2012

No press release or news conference has been scheduled by the Romney/Ryan campaign regarding this attack. Lack of any possible political gain has been cited.

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
46. My kid is at Camp Bastion
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:44 AM
Sep 2012

Unharmed, thank goodness, after the attack. Harry's presence there is not very helpful.

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