UPDATE: Mueller complained that Barr's letter did not capture 'context' of Trump probe
Source: Washington Post
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III wrote a letter in late March complaining to Attorney General William P. Barr that a four-page memo to Congress describing the principal conclusions of the investigation into President Trump did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of Muellers work, according to a copy of the letter reviewed Tuesday by The Washington Post. At the time the letter was sent on March 27, Barr had announced that Mueller had not found a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian officials seeking to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. Barr also said Mueller had not reached a conclusion about whether Trump had tried to obstruct justice, but Barr reviewed the evidence and found it insufficient to support such a charge.
Days after Barrs announcement, Mueller wrote a previously unknown private letter to the Justice Department, which revealed a degree of dissatisfaction with the public discussion of Muellers work that shocked senior Justice Department officials, according to people familiar with the discussions.
The summary letter the Department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24 did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this offices work and conclusions, Mueller wrote. There is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation. This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations.
The letter made a key request: that Barr release the 448-page reports introductions and executive summaries, and made some initial suggested redactions for doing so, according to Justice Department officials.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-complained-that-barrs-letter-did-not-capture-context-of-trump-probe/2019/04/30/d3c8fdb6-6b7b-11e9-a66d-a82d3f3d96d5_story.html
Original article and full title -
By Washington Post Staff
April 30 at 7:07 PM
Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III expressed his concerns in a letter to William P. Barr after the attorney general publicized Mueller's principal conclusions. The letter was followed by a phone call during which Mueller pressed Barr to release executive summaries of his report.
This is a developing story. It will be updated.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/04/30/mueller-told-the-attorney-general-that-the-depiction-of-his-findings-failed-to-capture-context-nature-and-substance-of-probe/?utm_term=.432b002d6c2d
htuttle
(23,738 posts)Yah, we kinda had that pegged.
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)htuttle
(23,738 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)bluestarone
(17,043 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)And there's more where that came from!!
underpants
(182,883 posts)bluestarone
(17,043 posts)1ST. bag right?
Maxheader
(4,374 posts)that there was no way for stumpys minions to word the report..positive for the traitor...
If there is another direction you think the a.g. should have taken...let us know..
It could be important...
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)because Barr pocketed it and provided his own bullshit "summary" of the summary. For all we know, it may have been much clearer but unless Congress gets a copy of it and it is released to the public (or is leaked to the media), then we're stuck with Barr's complete obfuscation of it.
Maxheader
(4,374 posts)Through the press..through a standup announcement..I don't care how...But he needs to get the word out
whether HIS report has been accurately presented to us...
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)Will have to see what happens the next couple days with the Barr Congressional testimony showdown tomorrow and Thursday!
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)posted here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212059472
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)Barr goes first, lies or evades questions then Mueller tells the truth...then what? Impeach Barr?
2naSalit
(86,791 posts)at that point, as you described it, he will have committed perjury and not only can he be impeached he can be prosecuted too.
riversedge
(70,305 posts)damn damn damn Barr
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/mueller-complained-that-barrs-letter-did-not-capture-context-of-trump-probe/2019/04/30/d3c8fdb6-6b7b-11e9-a66d-a82d3f3d96d5_story.html?utm_term=.ebcb31826e67
........................The letter made a key request: that Barr release the 448-page reports introductions and executive summaries, and made some initial suggested redactions for doing so, according to Justice Department officials.
What's in the Mueller report?
A redacted version of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III's report was released to the public on April 18. Here's what's in it. (Brian Monroe, Monica Akhtar/The Washington Post)
Justice Department officials said Tuesday they were taken aback by the tone of Muellers letter, and it came as a surprise to them that he had such concerns. Until they received the letter, they believed Mueller was in agreement with them on the process of reviewing the report and redacting certain types of information, a process that took several weeks. Barr has testified to Congress previously that Mueller declined the opportunity to review his four-page letter to lawmakers that distilled the essence of the special counsels findings.
In his letter, Mueller wrote that the redaction process need not delay release of the enclosed materials. Release at this time would alleviate the misunderstandings that have arisen and would answer congressional and public questions about the nature and outcome of our investigation.
Barr is scheduled to appear Wednesday morning before the Senate Judiciary Committee a much-anticipated public confrontation between the nations top law enforcement official and Democratic lawmakers, where he is likely to be questioned at length about his interactions with Mueller.
A day after the letter was sent, Barr and Mueller spoke by phone for about 15 minutes, according to law enforcement officials.....................................
oasis
(49,408 posts)canetoad
(17,186 posts)I was about to post it.
This is interesting:
In their call, Barr also took issue with Mueller calling his letter a summary, saying he had never meant his letter to summarize the voluminous report, but instead provide an account of the top conclusions, officials said.
Remember how Rachel Maddow mocked Barr for walking back the 'summary' description? Obviously was after Mueller corrected him.
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)I try to do "care and feeding" of my LBNs (although sometimes it takes them time to write the full articles)....
mcar
(42,375 posts)No wonder Barr, the coward, wants out of the House hearing.
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)he should be asked is about the letter and if he had an agreement with Trump or anyone else to do exactly that when Muellers report was finally turned in.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)before his formal nomination.
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)elleng
(131,119 posts)of our investigation. This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel: to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations.
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)Gothmog
(145,567 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)Link to tweet
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Benjamin Wittes
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Not a surprise
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7:10 PM - Apr 30, 2019
George Conway @gtconway3d
where is baby cannon
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7:32 PM - Apr 30, 2019 · Chicago, IL
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)Gothmog
(145,567 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)a larger replica of the baby canon!
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)Link to tweet
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Benjamin Wittes
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My bottom line on this evening's developments: Bob Mueller knows how to read.
Devin Nunes cow 🐮 @DevinCow
Does Baby Cannon?
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9:17 PM - Apr 30, 2019
tclambert
(11,087 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Nuggets
(525 posts)It still doesnt explain Mueller not indicting these people for obstruction, not interviewing Trump or Jr.
For those that will inevitably will give the he goes by the book , good soldier, straight arrow argument please explain how you come to this conclusion this based on the actions of Republicans and the FBI and Muellers tepid investigation full ofbuts.
The FBIs earning Clinton they might be hacked by calling the front desk clerk and leaving a message .
The FBIs investigation of Kavanaugh and being just fine with being used politically by Republicans.
I would also like to remind folks that Rosenstein hand picked Mueller for this half-assed investigation.
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)Because that wasn't his mandate for the investigation. His job was to determine if there was "collusion" between the campaign and Russia. "Obstruction" would be what was going on during the investigation of the collusion and was outside of the scope. The fact that the investigation was being obstructed is something that Congress will be working on. That is basically how they got Nixon.
Nuggets
(525 posts)Interview Trump and Jr which he did not do and that is in the scope of the investigation, does it not?
Its his job to indict anyone obstructing his investigation because its against the law.
That also doesnt explain the persistent efforts to make Mueller a straight arrow like Comey and McCabe, and Rosenstein who are not straight arrows.
Whats your evidence Mueller is doing anything different than those two corrupted former straight arrows?
This not Nixon , this is Russia and Trump today and a Republican Party that is complicit. It took a Republican to finally decide to talk that nabbed Nixon, and that was because Dean realized he was going to be Nixons fall guy. Nixon said give the public some low hanging fruit and they will be happy. John Dean cracked.
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)Interview Trump and Jr which he did not do and that is in the scope of the investigation, does it not?
You may have missed all the attempts at the in-person interviews that were made with Drumpf, where Ghouliani thwarted it every step of the way. And IIRC, only written responses submitted.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/14/politics/trump-interview-mueller-request/index.html
Of course the opportunity is there for the House to bring them all in so they can perjure themselves.
Regarding Jr., Mueller apparently focused specifically on "campaign finance" & Russia vs "collusion" for him and didn't feel there was enough regarding the campaign finance angle.
Interesting take by Ari Melber on that here - https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari/watch/ari-melber-why-mueller-did-not-charge-donald-trump-jr-1498692675608
No, his "job" is what is set forth when he was appointed as a "Special Counsel" with whatever scope he is given- https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2010-title28-vol2/pdf/CFR-2010-title28-vol2-sec600-1.pdf
He can and did eventually farm out things outside of his scope - like Manafort's Ukraine malfeasance and Cohen's hush money drama. And note that he doesn't personally "indict". A grand jury does that.
I don't think I have said anything of the sort. All of these individuals are Republicans. However some of them come from a career in the federal government (as I did) and there is a certain bureaucratic sense of purpose that gets pounded into your head when you are a career type vs an appointee.
Again - I have said nothing of the sort. However I do know that Mueller served as FBI Director beyond the normal 10-year term, which had been imposed by law after Hoover. I.e., President Obama, a Democrat, felt secure enough in the man to request that Congress extend his appointment for an additional 2 years, which they did without question.
This is conspiracy and obstruction and coverup. You had a "break-in" to Democratic party "files" (whether "paper" or "electronic" ) by GOP operatives. The GOP were just as "complicit" back then as they are now (although they had less crazy loons like the Gym Jordans or Devon Nunes then), and 2 years passed between the break-in and the hearings, and all sorts of GOP higher-ups (e.g., Mitchell, Ehrlichman, and Haldeman) ended up in prison. Both events were related to and happened during a Presidential election and both had a President knee-deep in keeping it under wraps. But what is happening now is "Watergate on steroids" with the introduction of foreign actors as the "burglars" with people like the Nixon-tatooed Stone as a go-between now, being not much different from the speedo-swim trunk wearing Liddy was back in the '70s.
Nuggets
(525 posts)usual dung.
Mueller can have Giuliani arrested for obstructing.
Its not rocket science.
Of course the opportunity is there for the House to bring them all in so they can perjure themselves.
Oh sure, theyll never use the I cant recall and plead the 5th 🙄
No, his "job" is what is set forth when he was appointed as a "Special Counsel" with whatever scope he is given- .... He can and did eventually farm out things outside of his scope - like Manafort's Ukraine malfeasance and Cohen's hush money drama. And note that he doesn't personally "indict". A grand jury does that..
Well thanks tor he condescending lesson on indictments.
His job is to uphold the law. As you note he had zero problem indicting the others for crimes unrelated to Russian collusion.
So now he can go picking and choosing who he might bust? If so, then he also has the option to break the scope to stop this maniac from destroying the country. Your premise just fell apart.
Also I never said you stated Mueller is a straight arrow , though its been said many times on DU.
No, you and many others keep insisting Barr stopped the investigation, that Rosenstein must have directed him off the path etc
But thats not what the evidence shows.
So Im still waiting for you to explain the perpetual implications that Mueller is a straight up arrow and quit dancing around the issue.
He went off the scope and thus your However some of them come from a career in the federal government (as I did) and there is a certain bureaucratic sense of purpose that gets pounded into your head when you are a career type vs an appointee. also is now debunked by you.
He either goes by the book or not.
He decided to bust low level crimes but heaven forbid he stops Trump from obstructing. What a load! Lol! Get real.
Btw Watergate doesnt even come close to the crimes and corruption committed here its ridiculous to even make the comparison and, as I pointed out, there were Republicans back then willing to talk, I even gave you the name John Dean, but there are none now.
BumRushDaShow
(129,488 posts)which is completely off the wall.
Go look up what a "grand jury" does and quit with the ridiculous baiting about "straight arrows" and other nonsense.
Check this out for what Mueller did when he was starting his investigation and take note (and no he was not "personally" issuing indictments nor had the authority) -
By RENATO MARIOTTI
August 03, 2017
Thursdays news that Special Counsel Robert Mueller is tapping a grand jury as part of his ongoing investigation jolted Washington and sent pundits to the airwaves, seeking to explain what this latest twist in the Russia story might tell us about President Donald Trumps ultimate fate. Theres no doubt this move is significant: It means Mueller believes there is sufficient evidence a crime was committed to warrant a criminal investigation. But people are leaping to conclusions that the public evidence doesnt yet support.
Only a grand jury can issue an indictment, which is the only way that someone can be charged with committing a felony pursuant to the U.S. Constitution. Merely impaneling a grand jury does not mean that Mueller will ultimately seek an indictment, although most grand jury investigations do result in someone being indicted. When a prosecutor does seek an indictment, one is almost always returned by the grand juryhence the old saw that a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich if asked.
A grand jury, which consists of 16 to 23 people, is an important tool that allows prosecutors to issue subpoenas that require people to produce documents and other evidence. Subpoenas can also be used to compel people to testify under oath before the grand jury. You can expect Mueller and his team to issue many subpoenas in the months ahead.
Because grand jury subpoenas are an important prosecutorial tool, typically a grand jury is impaneled at the very beginning of an investigation, not at the end. Indictments are usually sought at the very end of an investigation, after all of the witnesses are questioned and all of the documents are obtained.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/03/what-is-a-grand-jury-trump-russia-mueller-investigation-215458
I hope you are watching (or at least listening) to the Barr hearing right now (it just started up again) and get up to speed..
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Trump obstructed justice.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,209 posts)Jumpty
(15 posts)He covered up for Trump.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)"Context, nature, and substance" kinda covers it all! (Especially "substance"...) Many people only see the headline, and the truth is ill served when the headline understates what's actually conveyed in the article.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)to watch..
Bayard
(22,153 posts)That since Mueller is still a DOJ employee, that department has to set a time for his Congressional testimony. They, and tRump, have said they have no problem with him testifying, but have so far stonewalled on setting a time for that to happen.